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Fri, 18 January 2008 22:59

Blazer
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/technology/technology.html?in_art icle_id=508887&in_page_id=1965

Quote:

A scientist has achieved a world first... by cloning himself.

In a breakthrough certain to provoke an ethical furore, Samuel Wood created embryo copies of himself by placing his skin cells in a woman's egg. The embryos were the first to be made from cells taken from adult humans.

Although all were destroyed in the process, the technique is seen as a vital step in the creation of cloned embryos rich in stem cells, which are "master cells" capable of becoming any type of body tissue.

"We have people creating human beings with the intention of destroying them. That's appalling."

And the Vatican condemned the cloning of human embryos, calling it the "worst type of exploitation of the human being".

So now it has finally happened. Human cloning. Of course we are not talking about a clone grown to full term (although Im sure that has been done in a secret lab somewhere).

Bear in mind what this guy is doing is:
* Fertilize an egg with his DNA and force it to divide
* Once it reaches 150 cells, extract stem cells from it and then destroy it

So, this brings up at least these questions with a lot of people:

1. Is this murder?
2. Is it not murder because it's only 150 cells?
3. Is it murder if you kill a clone of yourself?
4. Can a blob of 150 cells have a "soul" ?
5. Would you grow a partial clone of yourself for health reasons (organ transplants)?
6. If they could grow a mindless/souless blob of meat, a partial body that just had organs, would that be okay?

Add your own questions and tell what you think.

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		Cloning/Murder By: Blazer on Fri, 18 January 2008 22:59
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Dreganius on Fri, 18 January 2008 23:04
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Jecht on Sat, 19 January 2008 07:52
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Chimp on Sat, 19 January 2008 08:02
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Starbuzz on Sat, 19 January 2008 18:14
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Dreganius on Sat, 19 January 2008 18:30
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Canadacdn on Sat, 19 January 2008 23:46
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: R315r4z0r on Sun, 20 January 2008 08:15
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Muad Dib15 on Fri, 18 January 2008 23:08
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Chimp on Sat, 19 January 2008 07:42
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: SlikRik on Fri, 18 January 2008 23:13
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Canadacdn on Fri, 18 January 2008 23:33
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Ethenal on Sat, 19 January 2008 00:12
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Feetseek on Sat, 19 January 2008 00:42
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Rocko on Sat, 19 January 2008 01:35
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Dreganius on Sat, 19 January 2008 01:40
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Rocko on Sat, 19 January 2008 01:41
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: jnz on Sat, 19 January 2008 03:12
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: BlueThen on Sun, 20 January 2008 16:43
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: R315r4z0r on Mon, 21 January 2008 15:10
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Dreganius on Sat, 19 January 2008 01:51
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Ryu on Sat, 19 January 2008 06:44
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Muad Dib15 on Sat, 19 January 2008 10:03
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: R315r4z0r on Sat, 19 January 2008 14:18
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Chimp on Sat, 19 January 2008 14:30
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: R315r4z0r on Sat, 19 January 2008 14:58
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: [NE]Fobby[GEN] on Sat, 19 January 2008 18:35
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Chimp on Sun, 20 January 2008 08:50
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: IronWarrior on Sun, 20 January 2008 10:13
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Chimp on Sun, 20 January 2008 11:34
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Dover on Sun, 20 January 2008 15:39
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Canadacdn on Mon, 21 January 2008 17:23
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Animoski on Mon, 21 January 2008 17:38
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Starbuzz on Mon, 21 January 2008 17:44
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Animoski on Mon, 21 January 2008 17:48
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: BlueThen on Mon, 21 January 2008 18:04
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Starbuzz on Mon, 21 January 2008 18:55
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: BlueThen on Mon, 21 January 2008 18:57
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Starbuzz on Mon, 21 January 2008 18:58
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: BlueThen on Mon, 21 January 2008 18:58
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Starbuzz on Mon, 21 January 2008 19:00
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: BlueThen on Mon, 21 January 2008 19:03
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Starbuzz on Mon, 21 January 2008 19:08
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: BlueThen on Mon, 21 January 2008 19:10
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: R315r4z0r on Mon, 21 January 2008 19:32
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Starbuzz on Mon, 21 January 2008 21:53
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: BlueThen on Tue, 22 January 2008 16:46
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Starbuzz on Tue, 22 January 2008 18:00
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: BlueThen on Tue, 22 January 2008 20:20
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: R315r4z0r on Tue, 22 January 2008 20:43
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Starbuzz on Wed, 23 January 2008 04:42
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: BlueThen on Wed, 23 January 2008 15:07
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Starbuzz on Wed, 23 January 2008 20:40
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: BlueThen on Thu, 24 January 2008 14:11
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Starbuzz on Fri, 25 January 2008 07:54
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Chimp on Fri, 25 January 2008 08:09
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: warranto on Sat, 26 January 2008 11:09
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Starbuzz on Sat, 26 January 2008 14:37
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: BlueThen on Sat, 26 January 2008 16:08
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Chimp on Sat, 26 January 2008 17:36
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Starbuzz on Sat, 26 January 2008 18:48
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: warranto on Mon, 28 January 2008 08:57
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Starbuzz on Mon, 28 January 2008 12:00
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Starbuzz on Mon, 21 January 2008 18:33
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: R315r4z0r on Mon, 21 January 2008 18:41
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: [NE]Fobby[GEN] on Mon, 21 January 2008 22:18
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Zion on Tue, 22 January 2008 04:42
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: [NE]Fobby[GEN] on Tue, 22 January 2008 20:03
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Spoony on Tue, 22 January 2008 21:58
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: renohol on Tue, 22 January 2008 22:12
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: CarrierII on Wed, 23 January 2008 11:01
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Chimp on Thu, 24 January 2008 05:40
		Re: Cloning/Murder By: Muad Dib15 on Thu, 24 January 2008 11:49

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