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cheating [message #64616] Sun, 01 February 2004 15:30 Go to next message
OrcaPilot26 is currently offline  OrcaPilot26
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I see a lot of people complaing about people cheating using custom skins, making C4 bright yellow, and stealth units visible, about how people can gain advantages over others. But I've come to realize that players can gain an immense advantage from the hardware they use. I used to have a 766mhz celeron with an ancient graphics card, and currently I use a 2.53 ghz pentium 4 with a GF4 mx420. There was a dramatic improvement in FPS rates and it was much easier to play Renegade. I recently got a new mouse, and aiming is way easier, so I just don't understand this argument

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cheating [message #64618] Sun, 01 February 2004 15:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sbh skins dont change the vis range. People who make a big deal about skins a queer.

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cheating [message #64619] Sun, 01 February 2004 15:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, that's a good point. Although, in this case, you're paying for an advantage.
cheating [message #64621] Sun, 01 February 2004 15:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yah, I don't think RenGuard is going to protect against hardware specifications any time soon...

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cheating [message #64623] Sun, 01 February 2004 15:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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True, better hardware would definitely make aiming easier, but don't play Renegade for a while and then come back and you'll realize how rusty you can get.

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cheating [message #64627] Sun, 01 February 2004 15:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Haha, we're going to make RenGuard drop everyone to 10 FPS so it's fair. Razz

(that's a joke btw)


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cheating [message #64630] Sun, 01 February 2004 15:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you want to think about it that way, they're paying more money then you for better game play :/

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cheating [message #64648] Sun, 01 February 2004 17:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you really want to be fantastic you could always find out who the current best player is and pay them to play using your username Wink
cheating [message #64649] Sun, 01 February 2004 17:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Homey

sbh skins dont change the vis range. People who make a big deal about skins a queer.


Yes, but there is a way to see stealth units from far away. Now about skins making bright neon pink snipers is cheating because you can see them wherever they are at (Unless on a bright neon pink level), also making bright C4 is cheating because if placed properly c4 can be "hidden", also removing teh black when zoomed in on the sniper rifle is cheating because you can see more at a time. . .


cheating [message #64662] Sun, 01 February 2004 17:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hrm... thats why I like consoles, everyone is on the same playing field and no cheats. Every play castle wolf on xbox? Xbox > Pc beacuse no cheaters, everyone has to use similiar style controler and hardware is the same for all...Now if it only had keyboard & mouse support it would be killer...

Re: cheating [message #64738] Mon, 02 February 2004 05:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OrcaPilot26

I see a lot of people complaing about people cheating using custom skins, making C4 bright yellow, and stealth units visible, about how people can gain advantages over others. But I've come to realize that players can gain an immense advantage from the hardware they use. I used to have a 766mhz celeron with an ancient graphics card, and currently I use a 2.53 ghz pentium 4 with a GF4 mx420. There was a dramatic improvement in FPS rates and it was much easier to play Renegade. I recently got a new mouse, and aiming is way easier, so I just don't understand this argument


Exactly! I gtet around 8-25FPS on Renegade, making it very hard to snipe, depending o how much is going on.

Can you see heat waves on high graphics? Or am I just thinking Generals.
cheating [message #64773] Mon, 02 February 2004 13:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In that case, i have a way to high advantage.

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cheating [message #64785] Mon, 02 February 2004 15:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Homey

sbh skins dont change the vis range. People who make a big deal about skins a queer.


Yes, but there is a way to see stealth units from far away. Now about skins making bright neon pink snipers is cheating because you can see them wherever they are at (Unless on a bright neon pink level), also making bright C4 is cheating because if placed properly c4 can be "hidden", also removing teh black when zoomed in on the sniper rifle is cheating because you can see more at a time. . .

Yes there is, if im right its a objects.ddb file?
About the sniper skins, take field for example when your out there. Deadeye is much easier to see then a black hand sniper. Is that fair? I don't see a problem with bright sniper skins. How can you hide c4? Maybe from a n00b who can't see shit but decent players will find it. Lots of people have the clear scope too. I like the way Renalert's scope is. I can't stand that green shit. And again if there any good they'll find them anyways.


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cheating [message #64786] Mon, 02 February 2004 15:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In that case, i have a way to high advantage.

Check below of System specs


Rich bugger!

I have a 700mhz P3, with geforce 2.
cheating [message #64793] Mon, 02 February 2004 16:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have no problem with having a clear scope. It's the removal of the black area that I have a problem with. Simply because you can stay in scope mode, and still have a normal viewing area.
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warranto

I have no problem with having a clear scope. It's the removal of the black area that I have a problem with. Simply because you can stay in scope mode, and still have a normal viewing area.


That's exactly what I hate, I love removing the green thing because with it on it just makes it harder to snipe.


cheating [message #64807] Mon, 02 February 2004 18:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Unless your trying to hit multiple targets or your the type of sniper that likes to zoom right in it doesn't do much

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cheating [message #64897] Tue, 03 February 2004 11:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I can't believe you people are worried about bright pink skins and the black area while zoomed in. The issue of removing the black area from the sniper scope is just stupid to me. If the person sucks so badly at sniping that they have to remove the black area then they can have it. It will give them a better chance to see me right before I kill them Very Happy

Okay I'll admit it gives them a slight advantage to be seeing glowing pink sbh soldier. In my opinion it's not that big a deal.

Btw this is coming from someone who has no skins or anything.

It is annoying to fight somone who is enjoying a nice 40 FPS as opposed to my 10, but unfortunately (as Crimson sarcastically pointed out) there's nothing you can do about it.


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cheating [message #64900] Tue, 03 February 2004 12:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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DragonFg

It is annoying to fight somone who is enjoying a nice 40 FPS as opposed to my 10,


Its annoying to fight someone with 10 FPS because:

- The hit detection in renegade is done on the client.
- If your machine is overworked it can lag the server.

DragonFg

but unfortunately (as Crimson sarcastically pointed out) there's nothing you can do about it.



Turn the detail level down and increase the framerate.

Gib
cheating [message #64901] Tue, 03 February 2004 12:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The hit detection is done by the shooter, not the shoot-ee. That's why bighead and final ren work.

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cheating [message #64939] Tue, 03 February 2004 17:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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new cheats are out... check renguard forum...
cheating [message #65006] Wed, 04 February 2004 07:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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warranto

I have no problem with having a clear scope. It's the removal of the black area that I have a problem with. Simply because you can stay in scope mode, and still have a normal viewing area.


ditto.


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cheating [message #65035] Wed, 04 February 2004 12:51 Go to previous message
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I get steady 25-30 fps and I have no trouble sniping. But hey, i wouldn't mind having a better video card Smile

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