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Is ASM a good idea [message #54336] Fri, 07 November 2003 23:15 Go to next message
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Although i have no experience with x86 ASM, i am fairly adept at z80 asm and know how easy it is to disassemble it. wouldn't the same go for x86 asm, where some1 could disassemble it and find flaws/bugs?
Is ASM a good idea [message #54344] Sat, 08 November 2003 01:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Blazer is currently offline  Blazer
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Who says the asm wouldn't also be packed...sure an ASM guru could probably disassemble it, but what are the odds of that, compared to if it were written in VB where you can download any one of a dozen utils that reverse engineer it back to its source code.

Hopefully, RG will be solid enough that even if one has the source, it won't help in bypassing it.
Is ASM a good idea [message #54725] Tue, 11 November 2003 02:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Apologies if these are naive questions.

1.> If you had the source for RenGuard, why couldn’t you create a dummy program that creates the expected responses for all the queries the server sends?

2.> Is (and why is) a program written is ASM more secure that one written in C?

Thanks,
Gib
Is ASM a good idea [message #54732] Tue, 11 November 2003 04:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We've figured that out too. Just creating a dummy program that sends static stuff will not get you any farther.

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Is ASM a good idea [message #54776] Tue, 11 November 2003 10:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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anyway, if someone manages to get past renguard, boot 'em Razz
Is ASM a good idea [message #66629] Sun, 15 February 2004 00:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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thanks for that
Is ASM a good idea [message #66698] Sun, 15 February 2004 11:32 Go to previous message
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Personnaly, I don't think anyone is even intrested in making cheats for renegade any more. As long as renguard stops current cheats it will be good enough.

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