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I heard XWIS shut down permanently [message #482368] Fri, 28 June 2013 06:35 Go to next message
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Is it true? There have been no updates about XWIS being down.

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Re: I heard XWIS shut down permanently [message #482369 is a reply to message #482368] Fri, 28 June 2013 06:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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From what I have heard from trojan. He is looking for a new host now due to is old host are dropping him because of all the DDoS'in if he wants a good host he should try www.limestonenetworks.com they are good and offer DDoS protection as well.
Re: I heard XWIS shut down permanently [message #482370 is a reply to message #482368] Fri, 28 June 2013 07:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well according to this nerd lucafer66, he's DDoSing everyone and demanding that they pay a certain amount of money per month to cease the attacks (in Jelly's case, he offered 10 a month then said 8 a month). He also said olaf wouldn't pay, and I presume that's why it's nowhere to be seen at the moment.

Oh, Renedrama


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Re: I heard XWIS shut down permanently [message #482371 is a reply to message #482370] Fri, 28 June 2013 07:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: I heard XWIS shut down permanently [message #482372 is a reply to message #482370] Fri, 28 June 2013 07:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ethenal wrote on Fri, 28 June 2013 16:12

he's DDoSing everyone and demanding that they pay a certain amount of money per month to cease the attacks


That alone is enough to let them arrest that guy if they submit a report to the police.
Atleast in the Netherlands Denial-of-Service attacks is most certainly ground for an arrest and at the very least a fine (up to about €16k) and maybe jail time (up to 1 year). And if this is true even blackmail, which will probably only increase the fine or jail time.


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Re: I heard XWIS shut down permanently [message #482373 is a reply to message #482368] Fri, 28 June 2013 07:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Chance of getting caught with conventional crime is 1.8% in the Netherlands.

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Re: I heard XWIS shut down permanently [message #482374 is a reply to message #482368] Fri, 28 June 2013 08:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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man that's pretty messed up :/
Re: I heard XWIS shut down permanently [message #482375 is a reply to message #482368] Fri, 28 June 2013 08:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What are the IP addresses be used in the DDoS attacks? The provider should be able to filter them out, or have the carriers black hole them.

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Re: I heard XWIS shut down permanently [message #482376 is a reply to message #482373] Fri, 28 June 2013 08:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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iRANian wrote on Fri, 28 June 2013 16:44

Chance of getting caught with conventional crime is 1.8% in the Netherlands.

Source? I'm fairly sure you're just spreading FUD.


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Re: I heard XWIS shut down permanently [message #482377 is a reply to message #482376] Fri, 28 June 2013 08:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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'In the Netherlands, both in the police and outside, a great deal of attention is devoted to the low percentage of crimes that are solved. This percentage is approximately 10 %. In the surrounding countries, particularly in Germany, this percentage is significantly higher (40 - 50 %). According to a number of legal experts, this is because the detection of crime and the prosecution of suspects is not always obligatory in the Netherlands (Legality principle). On the grounds of general interest, (further) prosecution by the Public Prosecutor can be abandoned (Principle of Appropriateness). The question whether this scope also applies for detection is answered by jurisprudence in the 'Broodjeswinkel decision' of 31 January 1950. Detection is 'only' compulsory when it is part of the normal course of events and the normal conduct of the detective is in accordance with the task. This prevents the wastage of a low detection capacity.'


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You are spreading FUD, Iran.

Also, Olaf isn't shutting XWIS down. AFAIK he rented a new server last night and I suppose he's setting it up soon. If this does not solve the issue, we're discussing new concepts that might help XWIS stay online during a DDOS.


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Re: I heard XWIS shut down permanently [message #482378 is a reply to message #482368] Fri, 28 June 2013 08:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: I heard XWIS shut down permanently [message #482379 is a reply to message #482378] Fri, 28 June 2013 09:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: I heard XWIS shut down permanently [message #482380 is a reply to message #482379] Fri, 28 June 2013 09:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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or the daily mail of the nl?
Re: I heard XWIS shut down permanently [message #482381 is a reply to message #482368] Fri, 28 June 2013 09:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ad hominem with no rebuttal so argument lost.

but here's the same article from the NRC:

http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2012/12/01/strafrisico-gigantisch-gedaald-vrees-voor-st ijging-criminaliteit/

in b4 nrc = tabloid

both articles cite government sources so i guess you're a conspiracy theorist or revisionist in terms of crime stats


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Re: I heard XWIS shut down permanently [message #482382 is a reply to message #482368] Fri, 28 June 2013 09:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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oh and the article you cited is 10 years old, during that time crimes that were actually being reported dropped substantially.

http://www.nrc.nl/rechtenbestuur/2012/11/17/criminaliteit-is-zichtbaar-puntje-va n-ijsberg/

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Wat doet de politie met die 1,2 miljoen waarvan ze dan wel op de hoogte raakt? Dat is trouwens 11 procent minder dan wat de samenleving in 2004 nog kwam melden. Daalt dan de criminaliteit of daalt juist het vertrouwen in de politie? Mij lijkt het een open vraag.


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De politie wordt wel steeds slechter in het oplossen van de misdrijven. Van die 1,2 miljoen werden er in 2011 maar 289.000 opgelost. Dat is 15 procent minder dan in 2005.


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Terzijde: op een congres van criminologen aan de VU hoorde ik de korpschef Haaglanden, Henk van Essen, vertellen dat 80 procent van de opgehelderde misdrijven het gevolg is van betrappen op heterdaad. En dat 80 procent van die 'heterdaadjes' wordt gerapporteerd door burgers.


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n. Dat zie je ook aan het aantal aangehouden verdachten. Dat waren er vorig jaar 202.000, een afname met 15 procent ten opzichte van 2005. De capaciteit om boeven te vangen gaat dus ook achteruit. Ik kan het niet laten: aan het totale aanbod kan dat niet liggen.


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Het Openbaar Ministerie behandelde vorig jaar 226.000 zaken. Toch ook 15 procent minder dan in 2005. Daarvan werd een derde geseponeerd: weggegooid. Een kwart werd door het OM afgehandeld, met één of andere sanctie. Voor de strafrechter bleven er in 2011 op die manier 102.000 misdrijven over.


But don't worry that will chance once we'll get a PVV led coalition


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Re: I heard XWIS shut down permanently [message #482384 is a reply to message #482368] Fri, 28 June 2013 09:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Speedy you think its that easy to filter out the IP's of a ddos attack there can be a upto 100k depends on how big the botnet is if its like the sibirl botnet then you will be there all fucking year doing it.
Re: I heard XWIS shut down permanently [message #482385 is a reply to message #482370] Fri, 28 June 2013 10:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ethenal wrote on Fri, 28 June 2013 10:12

Well according to this nerd lucafer66, he's DDoSing everyone and demanding that they pay a certain amount of money per month to cease the attacks (in Jelly's case, he offered 10 a month then said 8 a month). He also said olaf wouldn't pay, and I presume that's why it's nowhere to be seen at the moment.

Oh, Renedrama

Get that puke to come here, we all can band together and troll the shit out of the guy enough that he commits harikari. Razz
Is that guy from Renegade? I've never seen that nick around.


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Re: I heard XWIS shut down permanently [message #482386 is a reply to message #482385] Fri, 28 June 2013 10:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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he just popped up on irc

no idea lol
Re: I heard XWIS shut down permanently [message #482387 is a reply to message #482368] Fri, 28 June 2013 12:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: I heard XWIS shut down permanently [message #482389 is a reply to message #482387] Fri, 28 June 2013 13:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The guy who joined our IRC appears to have been a troll whom we banned 4 years ago. Whether or not he is capable of actually attacking us remains to be seen.

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Re: I heard XWIS shut down permanently [message #482391 is a reply to message #482368] Fri, 28 June 2013 13:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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XWIS seems to be back up for the time been we will see what happens over the next few hours.
Re: I heard XWIS shut down permanently [message #482393 is a reply to message #482368] Fri, 28 June 2013 13:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The website is still down.
Re: I heard XWIS shut down permanently [message #482397 is a reply to message #482384] Fri, 28 June 2013 16:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tiny wrote on Fri, 28 June 2013 18:39

Speedy you think its that easy to filter out the IP's of a ddos attack there can be a upto 100k depends on how big the botnet is if its like the sibirl botnet then you will be there all fucking year doing it.


You must know, u made a few Ddos Attacks in ur past ren career Wink


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Re: I heard XWIS shut down permanently [message #482398 is a reply to message #482384] Fri, 28 June 2013 16:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tiny wrote on Fri, 28 June 2013 12:39

Speedy you think its that easy to filter out the IP's of a ddos attack there can be a upto 100k depends on how big the botnet is if its like the sibirl botnet then you will be there all fucking year doing it.


Typically you would compare the types of packets being sent to the IP from what it normally gets....which should be easy since it's a xwis server. If the packets do not fit the criteria, you block them at the router level.

I'm not sure why it would take all year? Surely you haven't tried to block 100k ip's 1 by 1?

The problem is that a lot of these budget providers that xwis is using wont do this for them.


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Re: I heard XWIS shut down permanently [message #482438 is a reply to message #482368] Sat, 29 June 2013 18:36 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Seems like another random idiot. He has not been in a Rencorner server since September of last year. Seems he disappeared for a while and came back attacking xwis and Jelly. I have yet to see him attack us or come on our irc, but I believe he will eventually just give up like they normally do. I can also confirm Xwis is not going down for good.
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