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436 city worldwide protest [message #481168] Sun, 26 May 2013 14:40 Go to next message
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Yesterday a worldwide protest began that involved 436 different cities in 52 different countries in a march against Monsanto. Assuming you dont know Monsanto is a company currently genetically modifying food (this includes some fish) with no care for a large amount of health complications ranging from tumors to rupturing red blood cells in lab rat tests and is attempting to patent the seeds.
Their corn (modified to handle 2-4-d a dangerous ingredient from Agent Orange as pesticide/herbicide) currently dominates 80% of the U.S. market, and many foreign countries also have a high percentage.
They are currently banned in 10+ countries and Labeling of GMO products is required in Vermont and Connecticut, though the federal government of the U.S. just passed a bill making states no longer have that choice.
www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/05/25/global-protests-monsanto/2361007/


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Re: 436 city worldwide protest [message #481177 is a reply to message #481168] Mon, 27 May 2013 20:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://doccamiryan.wordpress.com/2013/05/09/10-reasoned-responses-to-10-reasons- we-dont-need-gmos/

6. GM foods have not been shown to be safe to eat

I hear this a lot and I have to remind everyone that nothing is 100% safe. Nothing. NO food. You can test organic, conventional and GM for the next 500 years and there will never ever be "absolute proof" that a food produced a certain way is 100% safe. That's not how things roll here in the 'real world'. The food value chain is long and involves lots of actors. Lots can happen. Take for example the Maple Leaf Foods listeria crisis in 2008 (23 confirmed deaths). Then there was the XL Foods e.coli incident in 2012 where 18+ people were taken ill when they ingested tainted meat. And the anti-GM folks get a bit hot under the collar when I mention this one: almost 4000 people were affected and 53 died from a rare strain of e.coli in sprouts that were produced on an organic farm in Germany in 2011.

There has been some food-related tragedies. But there is no documented evidence of harm to human health or deaths from consumption of GM foods since they were introduced to the market two decades ago. None. Here are TWO studies (US and EU – and there are more) that attest to the safety of GM foods (NRC 2004, EC 2010). GE crops or GMOs have been the most heavily tested food products in the history of our regulatory system.
Re: 436 city worldwide protest [message #481182 is a reply to message #481168] Tue, 28 May 2013 00:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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why are liberals so anti-science

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Re: 436 city worldwide protest [message #481184 is a reply to message #481168] Tue, 28 May 2013 05:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tell this all to the poor Honey Bee's paralyzed by Monsanto's product.

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Re: 436 city worldwide protest [message #481185 is a reply to message #481177] Tue, 28 May 2013 06:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller wrote on Mon, 27 May 2013 21:04


[i]I hear this a lot and I have to remind everyone that nothing is 100% safe. Nothing. NO food.

Im pretty sure food isnt supposed to cause tumors, cancer, and in (depending on the specific gmo product) they have even shown to pop red blood cells and cause serious intestinal distress.

Im pretty sure normal food does not do that.

And on top of that GM foods are not all bad, its Monsantos careless and untested food that is the problem.


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Re: 436 city worldwide protest [message #481189 is a reply to message #481185] Tue, 28 May 2013 13:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Zeratul wrote on Tue, 28 May 2013 07:34

Aircraftkiller wrote on Mon, 27 May 2013 21:04


[i]I hear this a lot and I have to remind everyone that nothing is 100% safe. Nothing. NO food.

Im pretty sure food isnt supposed to cause tumors, cancer, and in (depending on the specific gmo product) they have even shown to pop red blood cells and cause serious intestinal distress.

Im pretty sure normal food does not do that.

And on top of that GM foods are not all bad, its Monsantos careless and untested food that is the problem.

Where did you read about exploding blood cells... by the way, living causes cancer and tumors; you have to eat to live, thus all food allows cancer to happen ;p


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Re: 436 city worldwide protest [message #481190 is a reply to message #481189] Tue, 28 May 2013 14:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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eating mcdonalds daily probably is worse
Re: 436 city worldwide protest [message #481192 is a reply to message #481190] Tue, 28 May 2013 14:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ehhh wrote on Tue, 28 May 2013 15:05

eating mcdonalds daily probably is worse

Make sure to put burger king, Windys, Taco Bell, and the others into the mix and you'll be fine.


Re: 436 city worldwide protest [message #481194 is a reply to message #481189] Tue, 28 May 2013 14:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Where did you read about exploding blood cells...


In all technicality they dont explode, but the Bt Toxins in some GMOs damage red blood cells which can result in bursting.
Dr. Mezzomo and his team from the Department of Genetics and Morphology at the Institute of Biological Sciences, University of Brasilia recently performed and published this study.
http://gmoevidence.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/JHTD-1-104.pdf

Jerad Gray wrote on Tue, 28 May 2013 15:13

ehhh wrote on Tue, 28 May 2013 15:05

eating mcdonalds daily probably is worse

Make sure to put burger king, Windys, Taco Bell, and the others into the mix and you'll be fine.

The American salad?

Forgot to add this: Some time ago former Monsanto lobbyist Michael Taylor was appointed Senior Advisor to the Commissioner of the FDA.


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Re: 436 city worldwide protest [message #481323 is a reply to message #481194] Sun, 02 June 2013 10:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So as far as the bursting blood cells goes how common are they, we talking like more than the body can ever hope to replace or like the number of alleged Higgs Bosons have been found?

Re: 436 city worldwide protest [message #481329 is a reply to message #481323] Sun, 02 June 2013 11:09 Go to previous message
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It is uncommon and depends entirely on the immune system. But if it does happen in weakened immune systems it can be fatal quickly.
As for the most common problems: IBDs, such as Ulcerative Colitis, (sometimes so severe people have to have their large intestine removed) Severe heart burn/acid reflux (which can lead to serious complications), and countless directly related cancers.
1996 was about the time they first started releasing gmo products (soy, corn, cottonseed, conola) about the same time food allergies became much more common in kids.
The problem isnt as simple as washing it off because these Bt-toxins are placed in genetically in the seed, under the excuse of pesticide, so the entire plant is riddled with Bt-toxins in all the cells. The concentration of the GM Bt-toxins has shown to be at least 10x more than absorbed into the plant from sprays.


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