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Re: Get your ass tracked [message #479191 is a reply to message #479170] |
Wed, 06 February 2013 02:18 |
BAGUETTE
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Starbuzz wrote on Mon, 04 February 2013 12:24 | [lolsarcasm]
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Quote: | Ramb8(to RamBonerUpAss) fuk u big ashole u a big jakass i stick my ramboner up u as
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Crush gives away med tanks like he gives away handjobs, everyday and as much as possible
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Re: Get your ass tracked [message #479234 is a reply to message #479170] |
Sun, 10 February 2013 16:28 |
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Dover
Messages: 2547 Registered: March 2006 Location: Monterey, California
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What is people's problem with this, exactly? It infringes on the privacy you have when you're outside in public parking lots?
DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 | Remember kids the internet is serious business.
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Re: Get your ass tracked [message #479236 is a reply to message #479234] |
Sun, 10 February 2013 16:45 |
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nikki6ixx
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Dover wrote on Sun, 10 February 2013 16:28 | What is people's problem with this, exactly? It infringes on the privacy you have when you're outside in public parking lots?
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BCUZ THEN TEH BLACK PREZIDENT CAN ALL SEEING EYE OUR WHITE WIMENZ.
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Re: Get your ass tracked [message #479239 is a reply to message #479236] |
Sun, 10 February 2013 18:24 |
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Dover
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nikki6ixx wrote on Sun, 10 February 2013 15:45 |
Dover wrote on Sun, 10 February 2013 16:28 | What is people's problem with this, exactly? It infringes on the privacy you have when you're outside in public parking lots?
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BCUZ THEN TEH BLACK PREZIDENT CAN ALL SEEING EYE OUR WHITE WIMENZ.
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Oh! Right of course. It must somehow tie in to the plan to take our rights to gum disease
DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 | Remember kids the internet is serious business.
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Re: Get your ass tracked [message #479251 is a reply to message #479170] |
Mon, 11 February 2013 19:34 |
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nikki6ixx
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I had the misfortune of interviewing an Idahoan who claimed that Michelle Obama was socially engineering white male children to become mangina's by making them enjoy vegetables, and thus, become vegetarians, so they wouldn't be able to effectively fight Barack's mandingo hordes off from impregnating all the nice white ladies.
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Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 10 January 2014 16:56 | The only game where everyone competes to be an e-janitor.
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Re: Get your ass tracked [message #479289 is a reply to message #479243] |
Wed, 13 February 2013 16:21 |
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cheesesoda
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Aircraftkiller wrote on Sun, 10 February 2013 22:04 | I also love all of these so-called "libertarians" who came to the realization that they just really hate black people budget deficits after universally supporting George W. Bush. There's at least one of them in this thread.
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Wouldn't I be more apt to be a tea partier if I thought DEM BLAKS IS WHAT'S WRONG WITH OUR KUNTRY! THEMS AND THEM DAMN MEXICANS THAT RUN AKROSS OUR BORDER AND HAS 30 KIDS WITHOUT LEARNIN TO SPEAK 'MURICAN AND THEN TAKIN ALL THEM JOBS FROM THEM TRUE HARD WORKIN 'MURICANS. I BET THEY AINT EVEN REAL CHRISTIANS; I BET THEY WORSHIP SOME MEXICAN JESUS WITH TORTILLAS ON SUNDAY. AND DON'T YA GET ME STARTED ON THEM A-RABS THAT HATE 'MURICAN VALUES AND OUR GOOD CHRISTIAN LORD.
Plus, I haven't change ideologies since I actually formed an opinion outside of what I was indoctrinated as a teen. Sure, I voted for Dubya, but I was 18 and just out of private, Christian schooling. Are you really going to blame me for trying to form a world view outside of what I was taught?
whoa.
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Re: Get your ass tracked [message #479293 is a reply to message #479170] |
Wed, 13 February 2013 22:12 |
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cheesesoda
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I see no reason why government or politics has to be excessively complex, either. Don't think for a second that I'm in the anarcho-capitalist camp of the libertarian ideology. I take a progressive libertarian stance where I think we should be working to help each other, but I think a lot of privatization is the way to go, and if someone doesn't want to contribute, then that's their choice which then would have its own set of consequences. Yes, government is big and has a greater reach, so theoretically it's the best choice for doing the most good. However, it just ends up being more convoluted and wasteful. Sure, it does some good, but that hardly justifies all the waste and corruption that comes along with it.
I think it's pretty evident that there is a fine line of where government needs to step in and regulate. Personally, I think the federal government needs to be scaled back greatly and let states run themselves independently. Yes, for someone who lives in Michigan, you could use my economy as an example of why this seems foolish, but I look at it as if the federal government plays the role of a parent, controlling (most) every aspect of the child's life then the "child" is never going to be able to function without the safety net the "parent" provides. Maybe some states (even mine) NEED to fail in order to right this ship.
Then again, maybe I wouldn't see federal involvement as big of an issue if we had smarter taxation, like a flat tax on what Americans spend. It would certainly help curtail the out-of-control consumer spending. Who knows, but throwing money and attempting to bandage a broken system without addressing the source isn't doing us any good. It's not going get any better with these bullshit attempts at bi-partisanship, either. Neither side will truly cooperate with the other as both sides are so polarized... talk about not factoring in (fifty) shades of grey.
As much as I would like to agree with fellow libertarians and have even expressed the desire to go back to the original scope of government like it was up until the early 20th century, I accept that the world has changed, and our population is over 300 million, so it's not realistic. Still, that's not a reason to go insane and overspend enough to dig us into a big enough of a hole that it's seemingly impossible to crawl our way out of it and for generations to come.
So, yes, fuck Obama, but not because he's black, and not even because he's a left-wing nutjob communist socialist anti-Christ Muslim foreigner who drinks the blood of puppies and white women and children. I just don't like him, his party, or the two-party system currently running around like chickens with their heads cut off.
whoa.
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Re: Get your ass tracked [message #479299 is a reply to message #479170] |
Thu, 14 February 2013 04:53 |
iRANian
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what cheesesoda meant to say is that people suffering from chronic or potentially terminal disease, and of course old people and children, should stop acting like little bitches and pay for all their expenses on their own (get a jerrrbbb!!). Or of course they should just been born to a rich family.
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Re: Get your ass tracked [message #479302 is a reply to message #479170] |
Thu, 14 February 2013 06:35 |
iRANian
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I agree, they should be able to provide for their sick family, pay off $100 000 dollars in study loans, have a job during their studying to get income and not fail those 4 years. Then of course they will immediately get a job because the economy is doing well.
It's their own fault for not being born into families without disabled parents and/or siblings.
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Re: Get your ass tracked [message #479305 is a reply to message #479293] |
Thu, 14 February 2013 19:23 |
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Aircraftkiller
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cheesesoda wrote on Thu, 14 February 2013 00:12 | I take a progressive stance... I wouldn't see federal involvement as big of an issue if we had smarter taxation, like a flat tax on what Americans spend.
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A flat tax is better known as a poor tax. It disproportionately affects those with less money, whose earnings go toward necessities in a larger share than those in higher income brackets. If I'm making $100k/year and I pay 10% of that, I'm left with $90,000. If I'm making $15,000 and I pay 10% of that, I'm left with $13,500, which makes my life a lot more difficult. There is nothing progressive about a flat tax.
I have yet to see how "libertarianism" is a viable alternative to a strong Federal government. What I usually hear is "HURRDURR GOVERNMENT BAD PRIVATIZE GOOD!"
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Re: Get your ass tracked [message #479308 is a reply to message #479305] |
Thu, 14 February 2013 22:59 |
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cheesesoda
Messages: 6507 Registered: March 2003 Location: Jackson, Michigan
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Aircraftkiller wrote on Thu, 14 February 2013 21:23 |
cheesesoda wrote on Thu, 14 February 2013 00:12 | I take a progressive stance... I wouldn't see federal involvement as big of an issue if we had smarter taxation, like a flat tax on what Americans spend.
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A flat tax is better known as a poor tax. It disproportionately affects those with less money, whose earnings go toward necessities in a larger share than those in higher income brackets. If I'm making $100k/year and I pay 10% of that, I'm left with $90,000. If I'm making $15,000 and I pay 10% of that, I'm left with $13,500, which makes my life a lot more difficult. There is nothing progressive about a flat tax.
I have yet to see how "libertarianism" is a viable alternative to a strong Federal government. What I usually hear is "HURRDURR GOVERNMENT BAD PRIVATIZE GOOD!"
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What part of a flat tax means we can't have necessities tax exempt or taxed at a greatly reduced rate? I already get my medical benefits from work tax exempt, and necessities, like food, are sales tax exempt in Michigan (though, I don't see why I shouldn't pay tax on a bottle of Coke or a Snickers bar).
I think the states should be responsible to run themselves more than they are, including healthcare, minimum wage, social programming, marriage, public education, and so forth. I think the federal government should be limited closer to its original scope and focus more on national infrastructure (communication, transportation, etc...), military, and science (e.g., NASA). I feel like this allows an individual's voice to be heard a lot better. Sure, the People are somewhat represented in Congress, but certainly not as well as within state legislature. For instance, we have 537 elected officials in the federal government for 312 million people (1:581,000). The State of Michigan Legislature has 150 elected officials for 10 million people (1:67,000). Even then, I still don't feel I have much of a voice in competing with lobbies and the politics within politics (politinception). If more teachers are available to fewer students allows for teachers to better focus on the needs of their students, shouldn't that be much of the same for representation in government?
I don't see how it's absurd to think that privatization wouldn't work as well as government, especially if they're done by community. Funding may not be as great, but I would bet what money they would receive would be spent more effectively. Anything has to be better than what we have now... for every time I've heard a story of the government actually helping someone that needs it, I've heard several more stories of people that need it being denied while others successfully cheat/abuse the system.
whoa.
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