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Re: reborn playing renegade [message #472395 is a reply to message #472391] Mon, 30 July 2012 15:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Has it been confirmed this is indeed reborn? Would explain why he's been playing over at my server a lot recently..
Re: reborn playing renegade [message #472400 is a reply to message #472391] Mon, 30 July 2012 18:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Reborn cheating in public server(s)...

If it is him ofc.

Why do I confuse Renardin and Reborn with eachother Sad

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Re: reborn playing renegade [message #472402 is a reply to message #472391] Mon, 30 July 2012 18:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Who is this Reborn character? And the video definitely looks fishy to me. Though I've had the same thing happen with easyrider in jelly server. So how's everyone?
Re: reborn playing renegade [message #472406 is a reply to message #472395] Mon, 30 July 2012 19:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ani wrote on Tue, 31 July 2012 00:38

Has it been confirmed this is indeed reborn? Would explain why he's been playing over at my server a lot recently..


Does your server by any chance uses KamServ as a bot?
Re: reborn playing renegade [message #472408 is a reply to message #472406] Mon, 30 July 2012 19:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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DutchNeon wrote on Mon, 30 July 2012 22:25

Ani wrote on Tue, 31 July 2012 00:38

Has it been confirmed this is indeed reborn? Would explain why he's been playing over at my server a lot recently..


Does your server by any chance uses KamServ as a bot?


No we use BRenBot (I run RenCorner) - which brings up the whole topic of this new 0x91 guy who claims to be from the TT team. Considering Kamuix is hosted in Europe and the guy has like 58 ping in that screenshot it narrows the search down to whoever is from Europe and on the TT team.
Re: reborn playing renegade [message #472412 is a reply to message #472408] Mon, 30 July 2012 20:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Someone brought to my attention to a radar hack that works with TT. The SS he used showing it off in [a certain forum] shows KamServ as the host, whose IRC I've started idling in just a few days prior to the post.

I looked up some logs from the day 0x91 posted (the user who posted the hack, not to be confused with 0x90), and pulled this:
http://pastebin.com/fuHkZEea

The map is Walls Flying.

On line 27, the Weapons Factory gets destroyed (it's destroyed in the SS)

And in line 75, redude joins (12:10). He leaves only 2 minutes later.

On lines 85 and 86, the messages line up just perfectly with his SS.

On line 89, it says he dealt some damage to Barracks, presumably with timed c4.

I'm 95% certain that redude is 0x91.
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Re: reborn playing renegade [message #472413 is a reply to message #472391] Mon, 30 July 2012 20:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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^ lolololololol

i wish i was so good at programming that i could make a radar hack, the most harmless of cheats


-TLS-DJ-EYE-K wrote on Mon, 18 March 2013 07:29

Instead of showing us that u aren't more inteligent than a Toast, maybe you should start becomming good in renegade Thumbs Up

Re: reborn playing renegade [message #472414 is a reply to message #472391] Mon, 30 July 2012 21:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm the one who called it (that redude/reborn was the guy behind the new radar TT hack) and made the people started looking into these things because I noticed that on the YouTube profile page where "0x91" shows off the functionality of the hack, it says the creator is 41 years old and lives in the United Kingdom. Which matches up perfectly with whom reborn is. The dumbass was so clever he forgot to fake his Google/YouTube account stats, lmao.

The screenshot that showed off the functionality was taken in Kamuix - which is hosted in Europe and the 0x91 guy was getting 58 ping - definitely a European then.

Logs also show that reborn was either the one taking the screenshots in the server at the exact same time or he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.. lol

Reborn also used to be permanently banned from that cheat site which now is mysteriously unbanned....

It all adds up and quite frankly i'm sad to see reborn going down this route, everyone knows he was a cool guy and dedicated a lot of his time in Renegade, obviously something made him snap to dislike it/us in such a way.

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Re: reborn playing renegade [message #472415 is a reply to message #472391] Mon, 30 July 2012 21:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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idk, he probably started smoking crack

-TLS-DJ-EYE-K wrote on Mon, 18 March 2013 07:29

Instead of showing us that u aren't more inteligent than a Toast, maybe you should start becomming good in renegade Thumbs Up

Re: reborn playing renegade [message #472416 is a reply to message #472391] Mon, 30 July 2012 21:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It makes a lot of sense because when (i'm assuming this now) reborn got banned off Jelly he started playing in my server a lot.

He was even on teamspeak and mentioned how there was this new guy called 0x91 making a radar hack for TT and reborn was basically praising the guy saying "God I wonder what else is possible if he managed to hook into it" - go figure.

This just goes to show you anyone can snap at any second..
Re: reborn playing renegade [message #472417 is a reply to message #472391] Mon, 30 July 2012 21:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller wrote on Sun, 18 Jan 2004 07:38

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Re: reborn playing renegade [message #472418 is a reply to message #472414] Mon, 30 July 2012 21:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ani wrote on Mon, 30 July 2012 23:02

obviously something made him snap to dislike Renegade in such a way.

Perhaps he just got bored with Renegade, and its community.

Or, if we want to make it an intense plot: maybe he wanted to release a hack as 0x91, and to fix it as Reborn, to make himself a hero among the community!
Re: reborn playing renegade [message #472419 is a reply to message #472391] Mon, 30 July 2012 21:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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or maybe someone did an excellent frame job

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Re: reborn playing renegade [message #472420 is a reply to message #472416] Mon, 30 July 2012 21:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ani wrote on Mon, 30 July 2012 23:06


He was even on teamspeak and mentioned how there was this new guy called 0x91 making a radar hack for TT and reborn was basically praising the guy saying "God I wonder what else is possible if he managed to hook into it" - go figure.


Now THAT is the kind of thing that usually indicates someone is guilty as fuck.


-TLS-DJ-EYE-K wrote on Mon, 18 March 2013 07:29

Instead of showing us that u aren't more inteligent than a Toast, maybe you should start becomming good in renegade Thumbs Up

Re: reborn playing renegade [message #472421 is a reply to message #472391] Mon, 30 July 2012 22:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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it all makes perfect sense now: he framed himself Surprised

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Re: reborn playing renegade [message #472422 is a reply to message #472420] Mon, 30 July 2012 23:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ethenal wrote on Tue, 31 July 2012 00:25

Ani wrote on Mon, 30 July 2012 23:06


He was even on teamspeak and mentioned how there was this new guy called 0x91 making a radar hack for TT and reborn was basically praising the guy saying "God I wonder what else is possible if he managed to hook into it" - go figure.


Now THAT is the kind of thing that usually indicates someone is guilty as fuck.

Not to mention scary that he has the source to scripts4.0 and using them in this manner. What else has he done?


Aircraftkiller wrote on Sun, 18 Jan 2004 07:38

I get along with people fine, so long as they aren't rejects who promised things that they couldn't
deliver on, or forum trolls who contribute nothing except to bloat the fragile egos of the same
rejects I despise.

Re: reborn playing renegade [message #472423 is a reply to message #472391] Mon, 30 July 2012 23:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jelly know remote screenshot function?
Re: reborn playing renegade [message #472424 is a reply to message #472423] Mon, 30 July 2012 23:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ExEric3 wrote on Tue, 31 July 2012 02:07

Jelly know remote screenshot function?

Those vids were on Rencorner. Yes we have the screenshots setup, we've gotten two of him in there today. Him joining, and him as an SBH dying.
Truthfully who the hell would have been screenshotting reborn with any regularity?


Aircraftkiller wrote on Sun, 18 Jan 2004 07:38

I get along with people fine, so long as they aren't rejects who promised things that they couldn't
deliver on, or forum trolls who contribute nothing except to bloat the fragile egos of the same
rejects I despise.

Re: reborn playing renegade [message #472425 is a reply to message #472391] Mon, 30 July 2012 23:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Also, something I have to point out; reborn said (on teamspeak) before that if someone has the source code to 4.0 they could modify it to the point where if the server tries to perform a sshot function on the client the client would actually end up uploading a virus...

I hope this isn't true. I also wonder what the impact on Renegade will be considering reborn has the source code to TT...
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Re: reborn playing renegade [message #472431 is a reply to message #472391] Tue, 31 July 2012 01:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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1. in the screenshot the guy is nod, like redude is in the logs
2. wf is dead like in the logs
3. reborn's font and resolution matches the one in the screenshot
4. he kills a GDI guy with full health left after killing, so probably afk in a building (like in the screenshot, could have killed the guy in barracks):

Quote:

[12:12] <&KamServ> 11[4PlayerKill11]4 redude 4(11100%4/114) killed7 ghost 4(11GDI Soldier4)


does that log say he has full health?

5. he has 658 credits, which is possible as the kamserv's starting credits is 200 and the credit tick is 2.5/s, according to the logs redude plays for a maximum of 120 seconds.


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Re: reborn playing renegade [message #472434 is a reply to message #472419] Tue, 31 July 2012 02:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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liquidv2 wrote on Tue, 31 July 2012 06:14

or maybe someone did an excellent frame job

Seems more likely to me. If it is Reborn then it would be so incredibility easy for him to make a radar hack, with the TT code. I mean, it wouldn't even involve skill.

shaitan wrote on Tue, 31 July 2012 08:02

Ethenal wrote on Tue, 31 July 2012 00:25

Ani wrote on Mon, 30 July 2012 23:06


He was even on teamspeak and mentioned how there was this new guy called 0x91 making a radar hack for TT and reborn was basically praising the guy saying "God I wonder what else is possible if he managed to hook into it" - go figure.


Now THAT is the kind of thing that usually indicates someone is guilty as fuck.

Not to mention scary that he has the source to scripts4.0 and using them in this manner. What else has he done?

If it is reborn, I do not understand why he doesn't just build an aimbot right into the TT sourcecode. Shouldn't be too hard, as all information is there.

Ani wrote on Tue, 31 July 2012 08:17

Also, something I have to point out; reborn said (on teamspeak) before that if someone has the source code to 4.0 they could modify it to the point where if the server tries to perform a sshot function on the client the client would actually end up uploading a virus...

I hope this isn't true. I also wonder what the impact on Renegade will be considering reborn has the source code to TT...

Since the upload is just a HTTP upload send to a specified server, this could be done by anyone with a bit of HTML knowledge. Therefore it is recommended that the webserver performs proper input checking. This falls outside of the scope of the TT team.
If I know the location of your uploadscript, which can be easily found when ingame, then I can just create a simple HTML page with an upload form and upload it to that script. Probably takes me less than 10 minutes start to finish. And I'm not even a half decent coder.


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Re: reborn playing renegade [message #472438 is a reply to message #472434] Tue, 31 July 2012 03:38 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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It isn't 'me'.

Although I have likely caused this. Sad

My PC is was pretty unsecure in retrospect. I have had fileZilla running on my PC and teamviewer running open to quite a few people. I suspect it was one of the people I have shared my credentials with, or they shared it with someone else.

I'm pretty embarrassed, and quite honestly it makes little difference really whether it was me in those videos or not. If I am the person who was responsible (albeit through stupidity rather than malevolence) for a leak, then every cheater who has access to a TT cheat is pretty much down to me. Not a legacy I would be fond of. Sad

I checked my fileZilla logs and they have been cleared.

I've turned it all off now, but I suspect the damage has been done. It looks like this occurred while I was actually at work, and not even home.


Ani wrote on Mon, 30 July 2012 18:38

Has it been confirmed this is indeed reborn? Would explain why he's been playing over at my server a lot recently..


No, it's not 'me'.

Ani wrote on Tue, 31 July 2012 00:02

I'm the one who called it (that redude/reborn was the guy behind the new radar TT hack) and made the people started looking into these things because I noticed that on the YouTube profile page where "0x91" shows off the functionality of the hack, it says the creator is 41 years old and lives in the United Kingdom. Which matches up perfectly with whom reborn is. The dumbass was so clever he forgot to fake his Google/YouTube account stats, lmao.

The screenshot that showed off the functionality was taken in Kamuix - which is hosted in Europe and the 0x91 guy was getting 58 ping - definitely a European then.

Logs also show that reborn was either the one taking the screenshots in the server at the exact same time or he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.. lol

Reborn also used to be permanently banned from that cheat site which now is mysteriously unbanned....

It all adds up and quite frankly i'm sad to see reborn going down this route, everyone knows he was a cool guy and dedicated a lot of his time in Renegade, obviously something made him snap to dislike it/us in such a way.


I'm 30, not 41. However, my age and location is public knowledge anyway...


Ani wrote on Tue, 31 July 2012 00:06

It makes a lot of sense because when (i'm assuming this now) reborn got banned off Jelly he started playing in my server a lot.

He was even on teamspeak and mentioned how there was this new guy called 0x91 making a radar hack for TT and reborn was basically praising the guy saying "God I wonder what else is possible if he managed to hook into it" - go figure.

This just goes to show you anyone can snap at any second..


Yes I have been playing in your server, I like it. I have not been banned in Jelly (although I guess I might be now?).

As the for TS conversation, I regulary check those forums. So do quite a few people here... I was not praising the guy, I feared what else they could do.

liquidv2 wrote on Tue, 31 July 2012 00:14

or maybe someone did an excellent frame job


Not a simple case of my goldfish/brother/cat did it. However, I think my own complacency has caused this.

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Ethenal wrote on Tue, 31 July 2012 00:25

Ani wrote on Mon, 30 July 2012 23:06


He was even on teamspeak and mentioned how there was this new guy called 0x91 making a radar hack for TT and reborn was basically praising the guy saying "God I wonder what else is possible if he managed to hook into it" - go figure.


Now THAT is the kind of thing that usually indicates someone is guilty as fuck.

Not to mention scary that he has the source to scripts4.0 and using them in this manner. What else has he done?


'I' haven't done anything, although I accept that this is likely caused by myself.
If there has been a leak and it is caused by me, then there's quite a lot they could do I guess. Sad


Ani wrote on Tue, 31 July 2012 08:17

Also, something I have to point out; reborn said (on teamspeak) before that if someone has the source code to 4.0 they could modify it to the point where if the server tries to perform a sshot function on the client the client would actually end up uploading a virus...

I hope this isn't true. I also wonder what the impact on Renegade will be considering reborn has the source code to TT...

EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Tue, 31 July 2012 05:27


Since the upload is just a HTTP upload send to a specified server, this could be done by anyone with a bit of HTML knowledge. Therefore it is recommended that the webserver performs proper input checking. This falls outside of the scope of the TT team.
If I know the location of your uploadscript, which can be easily found when ingame, then I can just create a simple HTML page with an upload form and upload it to that script. Probably takes me less than 10 minutes start to finish. And I'm not even a half decent coder.


Yes, I said it would be possible, there is likely lots more that would be possible. Uploading a virus seemed pretty bad to me, and I mentioned it because RenCorner takes screenshots automatically.

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In summary, I do care if people think it was me or not in those videos, because I wouldn't like to think that people believed that's who I am.

However, it is of little comfort whether or not this is accepted/understood/believed to myself, as I fear I have caused the damage anyway, and it's not something that I am proud of.

If I have caused a leak, which it seems very evident that I have, then I probably deserve the shit I am getting for my own stupidity.



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