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Not all the way done, I am still going to add tunnle networks and underground Tib-Cave, I am going to probably add one turret and one Gaurd Tower just for some defenses, more trees and bushes to come, My first real legit map what do you guys think? and any suggestions / tips.

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Edit: In first screen shot I know the mountains looked stretched and its fixed its mostly just showing the river, I fixed it and to lazy to take another ss.

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Re: My Map [message #472309 is a reply to message #472308] Sat, 28 July 2012 16:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Keep on practicing, the map is very basic. Textures need to be properly UV unwrapped, the mesh is very low poly. But you have to start somewhere Thumbs Up
Re: My Map [message #472310 is a reply to message #472309] Sat, 28 July 2012 16:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mauler wrote on Sat, 28 July 2012 16:40

Keep on practicing, the map is very basic. Textures need to be properly UV unwrapped, the mesh is very low poly. But you have to start somewhere Thumbs Up



how you do UV unwrapping?

Thank you!
Re: My Map [message #472312 is a reply to message #472308] Sat, 28 July 2012 17:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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C4Smoke wrote on Sat, 28 July 2012 16:34

Not all the way done, I am still going to add tunnle networks and underground Tib-Cave


My advice do not start texturing when your map meshes aren't done.
Especially if you still want caves / are working heavily on the meshes.
For the rest it is a basic map but it is a start!
Re: My Map [message #472324 is a reply to message #472308] Sat, 28 July 2012 23:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It doesn't really matter if you apply textures or not while you're modeling. What does matter is getting the shape of the objects correct. As others have noted, your design is pretty rough. You'll want to put some work into it and give it some resolution to get that cliffy feel. You'll want to play with the edges and pull it out. Use some references to help you get the shapes down. You can always make low-frequency detail (larger shapes in the rockface) as the primary feature of your terrain and allow a tiling texture to fill in the details. Afterward, you can polish it with a texture blend which, for your scene, would likely be grass or a moss of some kind.

http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/featured/incredible-cliff-faces/10012?image =2

There's some ideas for cliff faces taken directly from nature. You might wish to play around with that and see if anything fits the aesthetic you're going for.

You'll also want to use the UVW Mapping modifier to tile your textures in such a way that the grass repeats; you'll prevent it from being a very blurry mess when you're on the ground. When you feel more confident with the tools, I would recommend moving past the simple "box canyon" look and attempt to make it look more natural; some sort of terrain features could be added (such as roads, bridges, forests, etc) to remove the huge cliff faces that you've placed in favor of a more natural looking design which would tell players that they're unable to leave. It's better to have a road leading into the distance that's been blocked with signs or some other obstacles, backed up with an invisible barrier, than it is to have the Renegade "box canyon" where there is no way in and no way out of the terrain.
Re: My Map [message #472325 is a reply to message #472308] Sat, 28 July 2012 23:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thank you so much ACK, coming from a mapper legend like you, I am still getting the hang of it and thank you for your tips and advice!
Re: My Map [message #472328 is a reply to message #472308] Sun, 29 July 2012 02:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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haha oh wow that map looks absolutely terrible

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Re: My Map [message #472333 is a reply to message #472325] Sun, 29 July 2012 04:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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C4Smoke wrote on Sun, 29 July 2012 08:41

Thank you so much ACK, coming from a mapper legend like you


Are you kidding, HIS MAPS IS BAD.


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Re: My Map [message #472338 is a reply to message #472308] Sun, 29 July 2012 15:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Coincidence: I was working on something like this back in 2010, when I was twelve. Lots of things changed since then...

Anyway, The tops of the mountains must be smoothed out. Add more polies to the tops. Don't go crazy on them, just enough to make it a little rounder.

Building on what Aircraft Killer has said, it might be a good idea to have a natural boundary. Add thick trees, or a big river. If you want, you can have a path leading off the map. Just make sure you add some invisible instakill mines. If you need help setting those up, then you can contact me.

Also, what program are you using? If it is 3ds max, I recommend using Aircraft Killer's Setup, as those are more optimized then the original renegade buildings.
Re: My Map [message #472792 is a reply to message #472308] Sat, 04 August 2012 20:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'd like to see some progress from the critique you were given. Did you make any headway?
Re: My Map [message #472800 is a reply to message #472333] Sat, 04 August 2012 23:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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cAmpa wrote on Sun, 29 July 2012 04:37

C4Smoke wrote on Sun, 29 July 2012 08:41

Thank you so much ACK, coming from a mapper legend like you


Are you kidding, HIS MAPS IS BAD.


His maps are legit and very well done what are you talking about...

Re: My Map [message #472813 is a reply to message #472800] Sun, 05 August 2012 02:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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cAmpa wrote on Sun, 29 July 2012 04:37

C4Smoke wrote on Sun, 29 July 2012 08:41

Thank you so much ACK, coming from a mapper legend like you


Are you kidding, HIS MAPS IS BAD.


thats why all custom maps server host his maps?


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Re: My Map [message #472821 is a reply to message #472308] Sun, 05 August 2012 06:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Its an old joke. It comes from the same place as GLACIER FLAYING.
Re: My Map [message #472859 is a reply to message #472821] Sun, 05 August 2012 14:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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generalcamo wrote on Sun, 05 August 2012 16:30

Its an old joke. It comes from the same place as GLACIER FLAYING.


ah. i remember now lol
and yes, that map is BAD! Razz


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Re: My Map [message #472926 is a reply to message #472308] Tue, 07 August 2012 03:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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shouldn't be forgotten. gamespy players issue?
I WRUGHT THIS TO YOU!!!


Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 18 February 2011 23:50

I figured some people will still go LOLOLOL STARVING CATS LOOOOLZ UR A FAG or some dumb shit like that. Thanks for not disappointing! Smile

Re: My Map [message #473039 is a reply to message #472308] Fri, 10 August 2012 15:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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BUT HE DIDN'T MAKE CARNAGE_CLUB_XTREME.MIX WHICH IS BY ALL RIGHTS THE BEST MAP EVER

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Re: My Map [message #473040 is a reply to message #472308] Fri, 10 August 2012 16:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I haven't worked on it recently but I am going to start again.
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Re: My Map [message #473076 is a reply to message #472308] Sun, 12 August 2012 12:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The base structures seem rather spread out, is that deliberate? By eye I would guess 25-30 seconds to get from the back end of the HoN to their power plant, giving little chance to defend a timed c4

Edit: Also, unless you plan to add powered defences the power plant is a bit useless.


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Re: My Map [message #473079 is a reply to message #472308] Sun, 12 August 2012 13:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It adds more depth in attacking, so you end up with doubled unit costs if it's destroyed.
Re: My Map [message #473080 is a reply to message #473079] Sun, 12 August 2012 13:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller wrote on Sun, 12 August 2012 13:16

It adds more depth in attacking, so you end up with doubled unit costs if it's destroyed.


Exactly, and it makes it more intense defending cause you got to defend 3 buildings, 2mcts, and it makes the map look more complete imo.


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Re: My Map [message #473082 is a reply to message #472308] Sun, 12 August 2012 14:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Okay so on renx my rightside bar just disapread and I was wondering if anyone knows the shortcut or how to get it back?


and how can I add like "skins" or diffrent characters while in pt? Like some maps have a arrow and you can select through diffrent skins of the character or even a diffrent character.


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Re: My Map [message #473083 is a reply to message #472308] Sun, 12 August 2012 14:12 Go to previous message
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Your terrain edges of the mountains are too straight. You should make them look more jagged. Also the mountain texture looks stretched out.

Also I agree with danpaul. The buildings are too spread out and far apart. Try thinking about how C&C_Sand is. It's an infantry map and the walking distance from building to building isn't that long but also, try avoiding the buildings to be double beaconed.


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