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Nod Vs Gdi [message #468362] Sun, 03 June 2012 17:51 Go to next message
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There is always one winner but...

I was wondering if it is possible to tie in Renegade?
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Nope.
Re: Nod Vs Gdi [message #468365 is a reply to message #468362] Sun, 03 June 2012 18:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In my 8 years of playing Renegade I never had a tie so If it ends on same score what happens?
Re: Nod Vs Gdi [message #468366 is a reply to message #468365] Sun, 03 June 2012 18:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Think it goes to decimals or the last/first team to get to the current score.
Re: Nod Vs Gdi [message #468376 is a reply to message #468362] Mon, 04 June 2012 00:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It goes into single precision floating point, I think if the socre is really tied GDI wins but I'm too lazy to check.

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Re: Nod Vs Gdi [message #468484 is a reply to message #468362] Wed, 06 June 2012 04:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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if its a tie gdi win, we had it on cw.cc before between soq and h2o
Re: Nod Vs Gdi [message #468485 is a reply to message #468484] Wed, 06 June 2012 05:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jason761 wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 04:58

if its a tie gdi win, we had it on cw.cc before between soq and h2o


ha, gdi is overpowered


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Re: Nod Vs Gdi [message #468487 is a reply to message #468362] Wed, 06 June 2012 05:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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the score is floating point although the client doesn't show decimals

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Re: Nod Vs Gdi [message #468496 is a reply to message #468484] Wed, 06 June 2012 10:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jason761 wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 04:58

if its a tie gdi win, we had it on cw.cc before between soq and h2o

no score on either side = gdi wins
otherwise it goes to higher score and there is such a thing as a fraction of a point. you dont know soq and h2o were actually exactly tied, it might have been like GDI 3956.3 to Nod 3956.2


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Re: Nod Vs Gdi [message #468515 is a reply to message #468362] Wed, 06 June 2012 15:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Pub logs suggest Nod is better. Results of pub matches over a long period of time.

Ties are gay.

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Re: Nod Vs Gdi [message #468527 is a reply to message #468362] Thu, 07 June 2012 00:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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pub logs suggest gdi is retardeder

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Re: Nod Vs Gdi [message #468532 is a reply to message #468362] Thu, 07 June 2012 01:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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comm war logs show nod is better, especially with pointsmod on. Big Grin

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Re: Nod Vs Gdi [message #468533 is a reply to message #468362] Thu, 07 June 2012 04:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The ladder suggests that they're equal, for all games played on stock maps, based on all playercounts.

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Re: Nod Vs Gdi [message #468542 is a reply to message #468362] Thu, 07 June 2012 13:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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not the win stats for n00bstories, which is the only server running pointsmod with a normal aow setup

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Re: Nod Vs Gdi [message #468544 is a reply to message #468542] Thu, 07 June 2012 14:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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iRANian wrote on Thu, 07 June 2012 22:40

not the win stats for n00bstories, which is the only server running pointsmod with a normal aow setup

Define normal AOW setup...


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Re: Nod Vs Gdi [message #468545 is a reply to message #468362] Thu, 07 June 2012 14:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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stock maps not marathon

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Re: Nod Vs Gdi [message #468546 is a reply to message #468545] Thu, 07 June 2012 15:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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iRANian wrote on Thu, 07 June 2012 23:52

stock maps not marathon

There are more servers which run stock maps and do not run marathon.


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Re: Nod Vs Gdi [message #468576 is a reply to message #468546] Thu, 07 June 2012 23:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Thu, 07 June 2012 15:11

iRANian wrote on Thu, 07 June 2012 23:52

stock maps not marathon

There are more servers which run stock maps and do not run marathon.


not really stock aow though.

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n00bstories, which is the only server running pointsmod with a normal aow setup


and maybe jelly aow.



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Re: Nod Vs Gdi [message #468579 is a reply to message #468576] Fri, 08 June 2012 00:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gen_Blacky wrote on Fri, 08 June 2012 08:29

EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Thu, 07 June 2012 15:11

iRANian wrote on Thu, 07 June 2012 23:52

stock maps not marathon

There are more servers which run stock maps and do not run marathon.


not really stock aow though.

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n00bstories, which is the only server running pointsmod with a normal aow setup


and maybe jelly aow.



False and false.
Most stock I've seen at the time we did the analysis was TK2. And even that wasn't completely stock.

It's a pity to see that a lot of the people here seen to think there are only 3 or 4 servers in ren.


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Re: Nod Vs Gdi [message #468581 is a reply to message #468579] Fri, 08 June 2012 00:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Fri, 08 June 2012 00:18

Gen_Blacky wrote on Fri, 08 June 2012 08:29

EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Thu, 07 June 2012 15:11

iRANian wrote on Thu, 07 June 2012 23:52

stock maps not marathon

There are more servers which run stock maps and do not run marathon.


not really stock aow though.

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n00bstories, which is the only server running pointsmod with a normal aow setup


and maybe jelly aow.



False and false.
Most stock I've seen at the time we did the analysis was TK2. And even that wasn't completely stock.

It's a pity to see that a lot of the people here seen to think there are only 3 or 4 servers in ren.


Active, servers played regularly or most often. No server really pure stock anymore.


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Re: Nod Vs Gdi [message #468587 is a reply to message #468581] Fri, 08 June 2012 01:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gen_Blacky wrote on Fri, 08 June 2012 09:22

EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Fri, 08 June 2012 00:18

Gen_Blacky wrote on Fri, 08 June 2012 08:29

EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Thu, 07 June 2012 15:11

iRANian wrote on Thu, 07 June 2012 23:52

stock maps not marathon

There are more servers which run stock maps and do not run marathon.


not really stock aow though.

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n00bstories, which is the only server running pointsmod with a normal aow setup


and maybe jelly aow.



False and false.
Most stock I've seen at the time we did the analysis was TK2. And even that wasn't completely stock.

It's a pity to see that a lot of the people here seen to think there are only 3 or 4 servers in ren.


Active, servers played regularly or most often. No server really pure stock anymore.


You're aware that your criteria are shifting eh? In any case, these numbers were taken a year or two (I think, could be more) ago, across multiple servers of different sizes with different audiences. Sounds more like a statistically sound method. Much more than just taking one server which usually is limited to high playercounts. And even then, that particular server isn't exactly stock either (stock besides pointfix).

Maybe, if I can still get (read-only) access the ladder db, I'll investigate this again soon.


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Re: Nod Vs Gdi [message #468591 is a reply to message #468362] Fri, 08 June 2012 02:04 Go to previous message
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plenty of stock maps were stupidly unfair while the dumbass point bug was still in effect...

point bug fixed + infinite infantry ammo + deadzones fixed = fair between nod and gdi. (not on glacierfly but whatever)

that's not the case in marathon and it's also true that plenty of people in public servers don't really know what they're doing (including ppl who've been playing longer than i have) but that doesn't make the maps themselves unfair


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