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when will this be released Sad
Re: Hud with building bars [message #368023 is a reply to message #368022] Tue, 20 January 2009 03:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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b00tz92 wrote on Tue, 20 January 2009 11:35

when will this be released Sad

It will hopefully not be released because it's an obvious cheat.




/me waits for 50 replies saying the contrary


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Re: Hud with building bars [message #368026 is a reply to message #368023] Tue, 20 January 2009 04:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goztow wrote on Tue, 20 January 2009 10:50

It will hopefully not be released because it's an obvious cheat.


Seconded.


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Re: Hud with building bars [message #368027 is a reply to message #368022] Tue, 20 January 2009 04:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I too do not wish to see it released.


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Re: Hud with building bars [message #368028 is a reply to message #368027] Tue, 20 January 2009 04:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jonwil wrote on Tue, 20 January 2009 05:25

I too do not wish to see it released.


Re: Hud with building bars [message #368030 is a reply to message #368027] Tue, 20 January 2009 04:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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when will this be released

Never as long as lots of players consider it as cheat.
Re: Hud with building bars [message #368031 is a reply to message #368030] Tue, 20 January 2009 05:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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DeathLink6.0 wrote on Tue, 20 January 2009 05:40

Quote:

when will this be released

Never as long as lots of players consider it as cheat.



And I hope it stays like that.
Re: Hud with building bars [message #368033 is a reply to message #368031] Tue, 20 January 2009 05:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Settled then its a cheat. Lets lock the topic and move on Very Happy

CarrierII wrote

BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ

Please don't make me type something like that again, not using puntuation is annoying.


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Re: Hud with building bars [message #368037 is a reply to message #368022] Tue, 20 January 2009 05:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sure it would be nice to have such a thing but it's a cheat so stick with the old K
Re: Hud with building bars [message #368043 is a reply to message #368030] Tue, 20 January 2009 06:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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DeathLink6.0 wrote on Tue, 20 January 2009 05:40

Quote:

when will this be released

Never as long as lots of players consider it as cheat.


yup exactly. I have my code in a class and can easily be released, just need to add one line to three different spots in shaderhud .cpp and shaders.cpp -- Exactly the same idea as saberhawks health notice code.


However due to the issue of many people thinking it is a cheat I wont be releasing it anytime soon.


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Re: Hud with building bars [message #368044 is a reply to message #368043] Tue, 20 January 2009 06:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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andr3w282 wrote on Tue, 20 January 2009 15:13

DeathLink6.0 wrote on Tue, 20 January 2009 05:40

Quote:

when will this be released

Never as long as lots of players consider it as cheat.


yup exactly. I have my code in a class and can easily be released, just need to add one line to three different spots in shaderhud .cpp and shaders.cpp -- Exactly the same idea as saberhawks health notice code.


However due to the issue of many people thinking it is a cheat I wont be releasing it anytime soon.

using it is a cheat too you know.. Listen
Re: Hud with building bars [message #368064 is a reply to message #368044] Tue, 20 January 2009 08:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"TT, will you please remove the K key, its a cheat""
Re: Hud with building bars [message #368074 is a reply to message #368022] Tue, 20 January 2009 09:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The K key is not a cheat, removing the necessity to PRESS the K key in the first place IS a cheat, as it gives you an advantage over players without that functionality.

If you disagree, try driving your car at a steady 70mph down a motorway with a screen that becomes opaque (non-see-through for those of you who don't recognise that word) for 10 seconds every minute. I doubt you would manage that without crashing into something.


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Re: Hud with building bars [message #368075 is a reply to message #368022] Tue, 20 January 2009 09:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't have a 'K' button on my keyboard Huh
Re: Hud with building bars [message #368079 is a reply to message #368022] Tue, 20 January 2009 10:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lol.

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Re: Hud with building bars [message #368081 is a reply to message #368044] Tue, 20 January 2009 10:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ErroR wrote on Tue, 20 January 2009 07:14

andr3w282 wrote on Tue, 20 January 2009 15:13

DeathLink6.0 wrote on Tue, 20 January 2009 05:40

Quote:

when will this be released

Never as long as lots of players consider it as cheat.


yup exactly. I have my code in a class and can easily be released, just need to add one line to three different spots in shaderhud .cpp and shaders.cpp -- Exactly the same idea as saberhawks health notice code.


However due to the issue of many people thinking it is a cheat I wont be releasing it anytime soon.

using it is a cheat too you know.. Listen

theres no global statement that it is a cheat.

And to my knowledge, most servers have not officially confirmed it as being a cheat.

And , ontop of it all, n00bstories has yet to officially confirm it is a cheat, which is the only server i play on.

A lot of people think it is a cheat, and a lot others don't.

**edit***

To further my point on the mixed opinions:
http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&th=31482&prevloaded=1& rid=21670&start=0#msg_366174


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Re: Hud with building bars [message #368084 is a reply to message #368081] Tue, 20 January 2009 10:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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andr3w282 wrote on Tue, 20 January 2009 10:14

And to my knowledge, most servers have not officially confirmed it as being a cheat.

And , ontop of it all, n00bstories has yet to officially confirm it is a cheat, which is the only server i play on.

A lot of people think it is a cheat, and a lot others don't.

**edit***

To further my point on the mixed opinions:
http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&th=31482&prevloaded=1& rid=21670&start=0#msg_366174



Agreed. It's already available so it's not a cheat >.> It just saves one key-stroke. Only downside is it can clutter your display minimizing your view of the battlefield.

Although...if you could make it so when you press 'K', it shows it on the HUD rather than displaying a whole new screen...that'd be a nice feature. Wink (and compromise imho)

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Re: Hud with building bars [message #368088 is a reply to message #368084] Tue, 20 January 2009 11:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Zack wrote on Tue, 20 January 2009 11:49

andr3w282 wrote on Tue, 20 January 2009 10:14

And to my knowledge, most servers have not officially confirmed it as being a cheat.

And , ontop of it all, n00bstories has yet to officially confirm it is a cheat, which is the only server i play on.

A lot of people think it is a cheat, and a lot others don't.

**edit***

To further my point on the mixed opinions:
http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&th=31482&prevloaded=1& rid=21670&start=0#msg_366174

I haven't been able to figure out keyhooks client side through shaders.dll so that can't be done yet Sad Also thats starting to push into the "toggle" kind of things which would support the argument of it being a cheat

Agreed. It's already available so it's not a cheat >.> It just saves one key-stroke. Only downside is it can clutter your display minimizing your view of the battlefield.

Although...if you could make it so when you press 'K', it shows it on the HUD rather than displaying a whole new screen...that'd be a nice feature. Wink (and compromise imho)

I haven't been able to figure out keyhook client side through shaders.dll yet... not sure if it is possible. But even still, a "toggle" would be helpful to those making the argument that it is a cheat


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Re: Hud with building bars [message #368090 is a reply to message #368084] Tue, 20 January 2009 11:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Zack wrote on Tue, 20 January 2009 18:49

andr3w282 wrote on Tue, 20 January 2009 10:14

And to my knowledge, most servers have not officially confirmed it as being a cheat.

And , ontop of it all, n00bstories has yet to officially confirm it is a cheat, which is the only server i play on.

A lot of people think it is a cheat, and a lot others don't.

**edit***

To further my point on the mixed opinions:
http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&th=31482&prevloaded=1& rid=21670&start=0#msg_366174



Agreed. It's already available so it's not a cheat >.> It just saves one key-stroke. Only downside is it can clutter your display minimizing your view of the battlefield.

Although...if you could make it so when you press 'K', it shows it on the HUD rather than displaying a whole new screen...that'd be a nice feature. Wink (and compromise imho)


I like that idea, it's so annoying when you're pressing 'K' on the battlefield and you get that short interval when it's popping up.
Re: Hud with building bars [message #368101 is a reply to message #368022] Tue, 20 January 2009 12:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's also possible to make it with the toggle, similar to pressing "k" so all you see is a black background or something similar with the building health meters.
This in my opinion would be acceptable by almost all peoples standards. But the thing is, I doubt anyone would want it then. The reason they want it is because it's an advantage, implementing it in the manor suggested with a key press toggle would remove that advantage and become less appealing to people.

Even if this version was to be released, it doesn't really matter because the person releasing it would also need to release the source code under the license agreement. That means it could be editted very very simply to not have to press the keyboard, and remove the black.

There's no way with a clear conscience a programmer could release it.

That isn't to say no one will, but it'll come from one of the "shadier" guys (pardon the excellent pun).



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reborn wrote on Tue, 20 January 2009 13:24


There's no way with a clear conscience a programmer could release it.

That isn't to say no one will, but it'll come from one of the "shadier" guys (pardon the excellent pun).



Yup , its also not just the idea of the building bars themselves, but that it shows a few techniques that could expand much further then just building health.


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Re: Hud with building bars [message #368103 is a reply to message #368022] Tue, 20 January 2009 12:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You can display much more with the scripts.dll, so dont release the gay hud, you can make to many advantages with it
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The idea is was born, pushed up and lots of people want it.

It is just matter of time in my opinion until somebody releases it somewhere but I will not be the one, so stop asking me or cAmpa.
Re: Hud with building bars [message #368118 is a reply to message #368022] Tue, 20 January 2009 14:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It definitely should not be considered a cheat because you aren't gaining any sort of advantage.

However, I agree that it shouldn't be released.
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