| a000 nick discussion redux [message #226158] |
Wed, 11 October 2006 15:57  |
Matix
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And old hostnames cannot have new owners why?
I get A00~4 from Kamuix, he has been with a crap load of other communities, from Black-Brigade to rencorner..
Do the host names make a difference in the quality of the community? I think not..
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| Re: Renegade Underground [message #226176 is a reply to message #226158] |
Wed, 11 October 2006 17:58  |
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For once I have to agree with "teh pwnerer" (Matix). Acey, if you don't already know ... XWIS logins are a business of their own these day. Because they're used to get people on top of the list (which is important cuz most people are too lazy to scroll down a bit to find a better server) people fight over nicks. All of the nicks that are used for RenUnderground are controlled by Nightma12 and AOhost -- and the servers are COMPLETELY new setups, configurations, bots, servers, teamspeak, etc -- so no, its not the same server renamed (not by a long shot). Renegade needs stronger server communities run by credible people. There are only a few right now ... and this will make a pleasant addition.
Don't be shy, check it out. And if you have a suggestion, feel free to make it. This is just as much YOUR server at it is anyone else's. Hope to see you all there! 
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| Re: Renegade Underground [message #226244 is a reply to message #226194] |
Thu, 12 October 2006 02:53 |
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Many people just get a new account that starts with a000 something just to be on the top of the list. But at least most of the good servers are up there.
nopol10=Nopol=nopol(GSA)
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| Re: Renegade Underground [message #226272 is a reply to message #226158] |
Thu, 12 October 2006 06:41 |
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The interview will be up at renegadecommunity.com soon btw, I'm waiting until it's written out.
I want to note she said that this project isn't a priority (also because she got a fairly good a000 herself).
You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord
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| Re: Renegade Underground [message #226310 is a reply to message #226158] |
Thu, 12 October 2006 12:16 |
fl00d3d
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If that were her reason for not making it a priority that would be selfish. There has to be more to it than that. But I do think that a quick switch to something like "Sort by Ping" would be pretty easy to implement. Probably one line of code I'd imagine. I don't mind people like Crimson having high level nicks and their servers showing up at the top. But when people hoard them or waive them around like they're a rare jewel ... that's straight up WRONG. And we've been seeing more and more of that. Anyway, back on topic ... the server has been doing well and seeing many new faces. We had some good games yesterday (8v8).
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| Re: Renegade Underground [message #226314 is a reply to message #226252] |
Thu, 12 October 2006 12:29 |
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| danpaul88 wrote on Thu, 12 October 2006 07:09 |
Crimson did mention in her interview with TK2 that there could be something in the pipeline for randomly sorting the server list... and if that happens A000 nicks go belly up, and everyone will start using server nicks that reflect the server itself, such as TK2Srv
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On the selfish admin side that sucks because we are at the top right now but on a player/ren supporter side it's awsome. HOWEVER I will believe it when I see it. I have come to realise words like "soon", "might" and "in the works" don't mean shit to some poeple.
Btw sort by ping would suck. It should simply be random ... as a player you can then sort it however you like (if needed/wanted).
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| Re: Renegade Underground [message #226331 is a reply to message #226158] |
Thu, 12 October 2006 13:57 |
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I think you misunderstand. There are a lot of things more important than the sorting of the server list. Like the ladder and RenGuard, just to start. There are a few things that would have to fall into place in order to make the server list sort differently. As you might imagine, it would involve a game patch, because the same players who are too lazy to re-sort the list are highly unlikely to go out and find a voluntary patch.
If I can make a clean split, I'll split off this off-topic line of discussion.
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| temp [message #226333 is a reply to message #226158] |
Thu, 12 October 2006 13:59 |
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Goztow
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Before anyone jumps on it, that "also" was there for a reason. As she said in the interview: it has a lot more involved.
You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord
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| Re: Renegade Underground [message #226340 is a reply to message #226331] |
Thu, 12 October 2006 14:04 |
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| Crimson wrote on Thu, 12 October 2006 21:57 |
I think you misunderstand. There are a lot of things more important than the sorting of the server list. Like the ladder and RenGuard, just to start. There are a few things that would have to fall into place in order to make the server list sort differently. As you might imagine, it would involve a game patch, because the same players who are too lazy to re-sort the list are highly unlikely to go out and find a voluntary patch.
If I can make a clean split, I'll split off this off-topic line of discussion.
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they'll be casually gamers who just play it from time to time, and, if the game dosnt notify them directly of updates, they probably won't know about them at all.
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| Re: a000 nick discussion redux [message #226342 is a reply to message #226158] |
Thu, 12 October 2006 14:05 |
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Exactly. That's why it would have to be an official, mandatory patch. Fortunately with TFD released there ARE some budget dollars at EA for QA and patching.
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| Re: Renegade Underground [message #226345 is a reply to message #226310] |
Thu, 12 October 2006 14:19 |
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| fl00d3d wrote on Thu, 12 October 2006 21:16 |
If that were her reason for not making it a priority that would be selfish. There has to be more to it than that. But I do think that a quick switch to something like "Sort by Ping" would be pretty easy to implement. Probably one line of code I'd imagine. I don't mind people like Crimson having high level nicks and their servers showing up at the top. But when people hoard them or waive them around like they're a rare jewel ... that's straight up WRONG. And we've been seeing more and more of that. Anyway, back on topic ... the server has been doing well and seeing many new faces. We had some good games yesterday (8v8).
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Fl00d3d, if you think renegade is such an ease to decode (translate asm to C or such thing) then why not do it for yourself? It has to be said, it isn't that easy, even rather hard.
And you sid it is selfish of crimson not to make it a priority, but by your anology I could state the same about you, you would be selfish because(I guess) you don't have a a000000 nick, personnally even if BlackIntel didn't have 3 a000000 names, I would still prefer renguard fixed up then fixing the listings.
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| Re: a000 nick discussion redux [message #226353 is a reply to message #226158] |
Thu, 12 October 2006 15:17 |
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futura83
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maybe have it so that it is ordered by amount of people in each server...(if possible)
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| Re: a000 nick discussion redux [message #226367 is a reply to message #226356] |
Thu, 12 October 2006 16:10 |
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| Kamuix wrote on Thu, 12 October 2006 15:29 |
Do you there is a big possibility that this mandatory patch to out by the end of December?
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HIGHLY unlikely.
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does anyone have to he sources to renegade?
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EA of course.
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| Re: a000 nick discussion redux [message #226368 is a reply to message #226158] |
Thu, 12 October 2006 16:11 |
ghost
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I personally would love too see a "randomize server list". Every X minutes (I say like 2-3) it would place 10 (or how ever many servers are on one page). This would give everyone a shot at gaining users. I myself Have a supply of a000 nicks. Which I dont use as I dont need silly nicks for users as most servers do....
I bet if you took away everyones a000 nicks for 1 week. There user count would go down alot. Many of them will reply says "No it wont, Our community plays etc". Well thats just pure bullshit. Then why are you using them?
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| Re: a000 nick discussion redux [message #226370 is a reply to message #226158] |
Thu, 12 October 2006 16:25 |
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Crimson
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I have a very solid stack of regulars who would stay no matter what nickname I had. My high nickname just ensures a steady supply of n00bs to be annoyed by and beat the pants off of. But, while my high nickname may have attracted people to the server in the first place, there are OTHER factors that keep them coming back. Even with a high nickname, a shitty server won't keep players coming back.
I'm the bawss.
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