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Liberty, I don't have to explain my choice, it's common-sense.
I suck cock and love it... absolutely love it. And I just got banned for being too immature to be allowed to post here.
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Wed, 25 August 2004 14:56 |
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I'd have to agree with Java, without a middle ground I can't vote.
Both are needed for a society to function properly. Too much liberty, and you have another Canada. Argue something is "offensive", argue that a certain race has the right to govern themselves -outside of Canadian Law, all in the name of liberty, and it goes to far. Too much Equality and you have a country where it is forced upon an individual, regardless of how it's done.
The middleground isn't "ideal" either. It's near impossible to define, as what one person things is perfect, will be too liberal or equal for another. I'd say go with whats sensible in this case.
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Wed, 25 August 2004 16:06 |
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You don't have to be extreme either way, just which way you'd lean if it were up to you.
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Wed, 25 August 2004 16:24 |
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Hydra
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Equality and liberty in what sense? If you mean equality as in "equal protection under the law," you can have equality in conjunction with liberty. However, if you mean "equality" as in "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need," liberty and equality could not coexist simultaneously, in which case I would choose liberty.
"Equality" is such an ambiguous term.
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Wed, 25 August 2004 16:45 |
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Equality as in I am equal to you.
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Thu, 26 August 2004 02:37 |
NHJ BV
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What a shitty poll. Both aren't good if taken to the extreme, because that would lead to either some form of communism or some form of anarcho-capitalism.
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Thu, 26 August 2004 04:19 |
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Damn. Liberty everytime.
Java's a better sniper than I am. Does that mean that I should get Final so that he and I are "equal"? No?
Then you shouldn't have AIMKBOT!!!11 for real life, either.
Besides, I'd rather live in Anarcho-Capitalism than Blind-Sheep-Communism.
The rason? Human society will balance itself (or end) from a chaotic beginning. In a strictly controlled environment, it either degenerates, or eventually rebels to a chaos from which it can reform itself. I say, skip the middleman; go straight to Chaos.
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For thee, my Lord, for thee.
Power hath descended forth from thy hand;
That our feet may swiftly carry out thy command.
And we shall flow a river forth to thee,
And teeming with souls shall it ever be.
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Thu, 26 August 2004 06:50 |
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Both can co-exist quite happily, for example in a Marxist Communism. Everybody is treated as equal, they have equal opputunities and resources. It is however, entirely at their liberty to choose what to do with said resources and liberties.
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Thu, 26 August 2004 10:03 |
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You don't have to be extreme either way, just which way you'd lean if it were up to you.
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Thu, 26 August 2004 13:09 |
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One problem when trying to balance liberty and equality is that if anyone feels they are not equal, they will go to extremes to give themselves a better cut. Ironically, the group that feels it was not equal winds up taking away from the group that was on top to begin with.
Liberty over equality, always. Perfect equality never works on a large scale. Better to let people look out for themselves and make their own opportunities than have the government dictate what people can and can't do in the interests of making everyone equal.
"Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. Horrid mischief would ensue were (the law-abiding) deprived of the use of them." - Thomas Paine
Remember, kids: illiteracy is cool. If you took the time to read this, you are clearly a loser who will never get laid. You've been warned.
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Thu, 26 August 2004 15:22 |
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Oh, really? How so?[/blatant display of sarcasm]
"Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. Horrid mischief would ensue were (the law-abiding) deprived of the use of them." - Thomas Paine
Remember, kids: illiteracy is cool. If you took the time to read this, you are clearly a loser who will never get laid. You've been warned.
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Thu, 26 August 2004 22:15 |
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Interesting the swing of votes for "liberty over equality". I wonder how many of those voters are Democrats.
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Sun, 05 September 2004 10:04 |
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Some cannot pick a side, that would cement them to being held accountable. They choose the middle or nothing, then they can switch to the side that best pleases others at any given time.
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Tue, 07 September 2004 08:45 |
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Affirmative Action, class envy, etc... is generally associated with Democrats... equality over liberty.
I'm the bawss.
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