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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489675 is a reply to message #488751] Sat, 01 November 2014 08:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That's a lot of words to say "I'm too lazy to do anything."

Please keep reminding us of how euphoric and enlightened you are! I'm sure it makes you a big hit with all the other under-employed betas on r/infowars.


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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489676 is a reply to message #489675] Sat, 01 November 2014 09:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Please keep posting retorts.

"DON'T TELL US ANYTHING NEW. WE KNOW EVERYTHING ALREADY. YOU ARE AN UNDER-EMPLOYED BETA THAT VISITS INFOWARS. LIFE IS GOOD!"


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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489680 is a reply to message #488751] Sat, 01 November 2014 20:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489687 is a reply to message #488751] Sun, 02 November 2014 11:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That was an entertaining read. Comparable to watching adults argue with kindergarteners.
Starbuzz wrote on Mon, 27 October 2014 19:08


edit: We see the same theme of Quigley's "Weapons Systems and Political Stability" in political affairs today; beneath all the suits and ties, behind all the diplomatic conferences and paper baiting lies raw military power backed up by nuclear bombs, aircraft carriers, bombers, tanks, and lots of armed men. Because without it diplomacy is nothing; you would get laughed off the table.

The same principle applies to people under representative governments. Gun ownership = POWER. Period.


Exactly, how serious do you think the world would have taken us if we dropped a shitload of teddy bears on Japan instead of the nukes? As devastating as suffocating on stuffed animals would be for them, it would not have had the lasting political power of the bombs.

Ethenal wrote on Sat, 16 August 2014 23:52

did you not click my link? the police just deployed tear gas again


The events at Ferguson got pretty brutal, the only way anyone could know what happened is by watching the live feeds that were available, as the media coverage was limited... to say the least. But even those were few and far between after the media blackout at 12 am (forgot the exact date/day). I actually still have some recorded portions currently.
After the media blackout and after the events of that day, tear gas canisters, smoke grenade canisters, rubber bullets, bean bags, and live shells were found at the scene.
Some even claim private contractors where hired, but i have yet to find anything trust-able with that information.


OT: Anyone who honestly thinks that getting rid of guns would solve our problems, just look at the "war on drugs," or the "war on terror." You could also look through the history of different totalitarian states, which usually disarmed the populace before committing mass murder. Seeing as history repeats itself, there is reason to believe the US is and has been falling into a similar situation. Militarization of the police force, Excessively corrupt politicians, an ever increasing amount of police brutality, and the sheer size of the US government today are just a few major examples of red flags....


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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489691 is a reply to message #489687] Sun, 02 November 2014 15:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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zeratul wrote on Sun, 02 November 2014 11:57

Comparable to watching adults argue with kindergarteners.


Libertarian ideology is firmly rooted in kindergarten.

ITT: Internet warriors who hate government, guns and guv'ment but are too busy vidya gaming and holding grand debates in forums to do anything about it.

Keep playing into the hands of the corprotocracy. You realize your attitudes benefit us too.


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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489694 is a reply to message #488751] Sun, 02 November 2014 16:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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the first stat listed on the first page.

270,000,000 civilian firearms in the United States. brb handing all those over to authorities because im sure criminals will also follow the rule.
Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489695 is a reply to message #488751] Sun, 02 November 2014 17:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Better stop having any laws at all because criminals don't follow them amirite?
Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489696 is a reply to message #488751] Sun, 02 November 2014 18:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489697 is a reply to message #489696] Sun, 02 November 2014 18:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In nikki, we have SUCH a dishonest individual that whines about "holding grand debates" then quips about the "corprotocracy;" his only intention is to somehow come out on top in this discussion. Why else would he dismiss us off as Libertatrians and act smart? Who do you think I was talking about when I mentioned "elites." Government? Nope.

I am just an immigrant talking about things as I see them in this country of most magnificent deceptions and illusions. I didn't ask to be called a Libertarian. I was branded in just a space of a few posts. Whose problem is that? YOURS and YOURS alone. That's the problem with people having false ideologies like nikki is they see someone sticking up for the small guy and instantly feel threatened by our rugged individualism. Then they jump the gun and brand us. The real loser is us all, you included. Why? We are not going to agree on anything.

You are not interested in bridging the gap between and from the very start see everything from a Left VS Right perspective. By falling for the trick of branding opponents, we are kept fighting indefinitely and you come out and make big talk about "playing into the hands of the corprotocracy."

You don't even have the basic honesty to read what I have been saying all along and acknowledge as fact what is common sense. Then you jump to corporatocracy.

You do know that the corporatocracy...the elites...their colossal monopolies are government-backed right? That government has been usurped and choke full of their agents and traitors and now acts as mere yes-men and watchdogs over the people? That this is the reason, and THE ONLY REASON why we have the slide towards militarized police? To cover the asses of the usurpers? That it is vital that the peoples, whatever protection that they have left, be strengthened and not eroded? That towards this regard, I have already explained the relationship between ownership of weapons and the balance of power? KEEP DODGING THIS POINT, NIKKI.

I am frankly tired of your cocky spewing of poisonous false ideologies because it's people like yourself that perpetuate this paradigm. And I am having none of it.

By the way, how are we supposed to deal with lies? You say I am doing nothing. I am spreading the word around and letting people know the nature of the beast. Not just here but in my community IRL. It's a small thing to do against a big beast. What have you been doing, nikki? For years now, repeating the same bs here and on Jelly, throwing people off with that attitude, picking up forum cool points. And you have the nerve to accuse me of "vidya gaming and holding grand debates."

Gun grabber simpletons are going to do a lot better at reading and understanding the depths of the issues they pretend to know so much about. How about the war on the family unit? Under the mask of "free speech" every sort of indecency is perpetrated leading to destroyed individuals with the inability to keep a family together for more than 3 years and leading to broken homes. The children of these families have wretched lives that almost always end up as depressed drugged up psychos that end up in mass shootings.

Yes, let's still go for the law-abiding citizens' guns. That will solve all our problems! That's what the elites exactly want and you fools are pawns to fall for it and demand everyone disarm.

edit: typo.


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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489699 is a reply to message #489695] Mon, 03 November 2014 14:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller wrote on Sun, 02 November 2014 17:59

Better stop having any laws at all because criminals don't follow them amirite?

We could make a law that states "If someone breaks into your house just let them take everything." And to encourage less violence we could not post charges unless they actually hurt someone. Thus freeing up police time and reducing violence.


Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489705 is a reply to message #489697] Mon, 03 November 2014 18:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Starbuzz wrote on Sun, 02 November 2014 20:58

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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489707 is a reply to message #489705] Tue, 04 November 2014 07:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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good talk guys
Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489713 is a reply to message #488751] Wed, 05 November 2014 01:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Can anyone tell me if he mentioned me in that post? I just kinda scrolled past it
Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489714 is a reply to message #489713] Wed, 05 November 2014 04:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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depends, are you are a gun grabbing simpleton?
Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489717 is a reply to message #489697] Wed, 05 November 2014 12:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Starbuzz wrote on Sun, 02 November 2014 18:58

I am frankly tired of your cocky spewing of poisonous false ideologies because it's people like yourself that perpetuate this paradigm. And I am having none of it.


Oh dear. He's having none of me being right, again, again and again. Whatever shall I do?! LOL!

Starbuzz wrote on Sun, 02 November 2014 18:58


I am spreading the word around and letting people know the nature of the beast.


AKA:

Starbuzz wrote on Sun, 02 November 2014 18:58


I am doing nothing.



LOL! Yeah good job there. All you're doing is writing essays that are littered with strawmen, insults and aren't terribly thought provoking. I've read it all before.

Starbuzz wrote on Sun, 02 November 2014 18:58


What have you been doing, nikki?


I actively assist the poor and needy, volunteering considerable amounts of my time and expertise ensuring people have fair access to legal, law-enforcement and political resources. I also sit on several non-profit boards that help vulnerable populations.

You know... the people who actually can make a difference in our society but whom your ideology deems to be 'lazy,' 'sheeple,' 'masses' who you consider to be too busy:

- watching porn
- watching reality TV
- playing video games
- not educating themselves

...and other male-centric libertarian fallacies you and others like you spew.

While you were cozily writing your responses in the comfort of your warm home, I was out in the rain handing out blankets and food to the same poor souls I see every week. They will never have a chance of finding a home, job or even a semblance of a 'life' because people who share your ideology that government is an inherently evil, corrupt, elitist nightmare, are busy ruining social safety nets.

You care only about your freedom and the freedom of privileged people like you.

Maybe start caring about those who wish they even had freedoms left to defend.

TL;DR: Check your male privilege and actually do something to help people who are disadvantaged.


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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489719 is a reply to message #489717] Wed, 05 November 2014 13:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dodging just about everything and lots of goal-post moving. Obviously, these things are too difficult for you.

Keep handing out the blankets and patting yourself in the back for what a fine job you are doing while not knowing what put people out in the streets in the first place.

Well done. I like the part where you are covering for the porn and reality TV addicts.

I especially love this gem:

nikki6ixx wrote on Wed, 05 November 2014 14:08

You care only about your freedom and the freedom of privileged people like you.

Maybe start caring about those who wish they even had freedoms left to defend.

TL;DR: Check your male privilege and actually do something to help people who are disadvantaged.




edit:

You have a swollen subverted government over a leviathan welfare state with lots of people in need of blankets all ruled by a power elite that prefer to stay invisible, crash the stockmarket at will and cause wars.

And if you are not a perfect cog like nikki accepting this joke and obediently handing out blankets, you are a male chauvinist that is egoistically exercising "male privilege."

Keep up with the branding. Above all, keep up with blaming the wrong people.


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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489727 is a reply to message #488751] Thu, 06 November 2014 17:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"swollen subverted government over a leviathan welfare state"

lmao someone just discovered a thesaurus

I bet he wears a fedora too
Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489733 is a reply to message #489727] Fri, 07 November 2014 23:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller wrote on Thu, 06 November 2014 17:32

"swollen subverted government over a leviathan welfare state"

lmao someone just discovered a thesaurus

I bet he wears a fedora too


Five bucks says his manifesto will be even longer than Elliot Rodger's!


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And that's all he got. Branding, dodging, goal-post moving, and finally comparing me to a sex-starved mass-shooter. A perfect cog reveals the full height of his intelligence; that's for any thinking person to see though.

edit: thank God I am not White else I bet he would have referred to "White privilege" instead of "male privilege."


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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489737 is a reply to message #488751] Sat, 08 November 2014 11:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I like how you pretend you're not a "cog" while you use all of the modern benefits of daily life that come from taxation
Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489740 is a reply to message #489717] Sat, 08 November 2014 17:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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nikki6ixx wrote on Wed, 05 November 2014 12:08

Starbuzz wrote on Sun, 02 November 2014 18:58

I am frankly tired of your cocky spewing of poisonous false ideologies because it's people like yourself that perpetuate this paradigm. And I am having none of it.


Oh dear. He's having none of me being right, again, again and again. Whatever shall I do?! LOL!


Right about what? I can't even tell if you are for or against guns; only thing I've seen you say is that people need to do more than just talk about what they believe.

nikki6ixx wrote on Wed, 05 November 2014 12:08


Starbuzz wrote on Sun, 02 November 2014 18:58


What have you been doing, nikki?


I actively assist the poor and needy, volunteering considerable amounts of my time and expertise ensuring people have fair access to legal, law-enforcement and political resources. I also sit on several non-profit boards that help vulnerable populations.

You could help them even more if you didn't waste time arguing with Starbuzz. But as a heads up you'll probably never accomplish everything, see my next quote why.

nikki6ixx wrote on Wed, 05 November 2014 12:08


While you were cozily writing your responses in the comfort of your warm home, I was out in the rain handing out blankets and food to the same poor souls I see every week. They will never have a chance of finding a home, job or even a semblance of a 'life' because people who share your ideology that government is an inherently evil, corrupt, elitist nightmare, are busy ruining social safety nets.

You should let them hand out the blankets, beings "They will never have a chance of finding a home, job or even a semblance of a 'life'" and in exchange you can build them some sort of housing for helping others, that'd actually be doing something; or do you believe that they are unable to do tasks as simple as handing out blankets? Or maybe its that they won't hand out the blankets and it hurts you to know the people that are poor and in the rain don't even want to help others in their situation?


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AK, my taxation is used for a lot more than just muh roads and utilities. For example, the needless surveillance of an individual. The resources needed to build such a pervasive system is from the people's money. That's abuse don't you think? And that's just one "benefit" of taxation we both enjoy everyday:

Quote:

"The technotronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values. Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities."

Zbigniew Brzezinski, Between Two Ages: America's Role in the Technetronic Era


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nikki6ixx wrote on Wed, 05 November 2014 12:08

Starbuzz wrote on Sun, 02 November 2014 18:58

I am frankly tired of your cocky spewing of poisonous false ideologies because it's people like yourself that perpetuate this paradigm. And I am having none of it.


Oh dear. He's having none of me being right, again, again and again. Whatever shall I do?! LOL!


Right about what? I can't even tell if you are for or against guns; only thing I've seen you say is that people need to do more than just talk about what they believe.


He is against it because his eyes are stuffed with roses.

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This conversation is going on because he is unwilling to acknowledge the absolute fact that political power is based on the possession of weapons systems. I have him maneuvered between a rock and a hard place because if he were to acknowledge that fundamental truth (he won't because he is dishonest), it will mean revising his opinion of gun ownership and the collapse of his unrealistic rose-colored utopian fantasies.

We are holding the win by default till we are challenged and refuted effectively.

Let me also remind everyone that we are only having this argument because someone really got their feelings hurt at my post which followed Hitman's short YouTube video link in the previous page.

Meanwhile, I am getting mocked and compared to a dumbass mass-shooter dickhead. Fucking pathetic but I am laughing IRL now. lol.
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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489762 is a reply to message #488751] Mon, 10 November 2014 20:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lmao look at the lolbertarian buttrage
Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489792 is a reply to message #489762] Wed, 12 November 2014 22:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I keep looking for cogent arguments but all I see is Randian Ayn-al Fisting.

I'm okay "losing" an internet argument if it means a movie-going crowd don't get perforated during tomorrow's matinee!


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nikki6ixx wrote on Wed, 12 November 2014 22:13


I'm okay "losing" an internet argument if it means a movie-going crowd don't get perforated during tomorrow's matinee!


That is a pointless point because at some point that shooter was told that killing people is wrong and he did it anyways, so I doubt being told he shouldn't have a gun will make a difference; if some nut has all the free time in the world and wants to do something, they'll find a way.


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