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Re: Pro Life or Pro choice? [message #309636 is a reply to message #308883] Thu, 10 January 2008 14:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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First off, I don't agree with the words 'pro life or pro choice' seeing as 'pro choice' seems to still carry a negative connotation as opposed to 'pro life' I mean, if you're not 'pro life' you must be pro death, right?
Anyway, I don't think abortion should be legal, unless the woman is in danger from the pregnancy, or the child would be born with a severely limiting physical or mental defect which would prevent it from living a normal life anyway.
Re: Pro Life or Pro choice? [message #309737 is a reply to message #308883] Thu, 10 January 2008 19:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Pro Life or Pro choice? [message #309740 is a reply to message #309193] Thu, 10 January 2008 19:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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cheesesoda wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 20:02

RoShamBo wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 14:37

Consider this; a human egg is released and destroyed every month if it isn't fertilized. Each and every one of them has the potential of turning into a contributer to our society.

Yet if you would have read my post, you would see that the potential is completely different.


So what? You're saying human eggs don't have the potential of turning into a working citizen? So, then, tell us how it really happens.

Re: Pro Life or Pro choice? [message #309745 is a reply to message #309740] Thu, 10 January 2008 19:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think that as long as there is one reason for why having a child can harm someone or some other really negative effects (life threatening ones, not "Oh I don't want a baby" ones) than it should be alright.

My opinion does not take into consideration any form of life that the baby itself would be. And I am also not saying it is alright to kill babies.. I just think that if there can be one problem, that is bad enough. It is a lot easier to have a set standard that to individualize each case by severity. I just think the act of an abortion doesn't outweigh the amount of problems that many other people would face from personal to life threatening problems for not only the parents, but those close to the parents as well.

I also don't think it is any of my business, therefore I really couldn't care less if it was legal or not, at this point in time, anyway.
Re: Pro Life or Pro choice? [message #309843 is a reply to message #309740] Fri, 11 January 2008 09:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RoShamBo wrote on Thu, 10 January 2008 20:06

cheesesoda wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 20:02

RoShamBo wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 14:37

Consider this; a human egg is released and destroyed every month if it isn't fertilized. Each and every one of them has the potential of turning into a contributer to our society.

Yet if you would have read my post, you would see that the potential is completely different.


So what? You're saying human eggs don't have the potential of turning into a working citizen? So, then, tell us how it really happens.




A human egg has absolutely zero potential to become a human by itself. You see, when a mommy and a daddy love each other very much...ect,ect.


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Re: Pro Life or Pro choice? [message #309849 is a reply to message #309843] Fri, 11 January 2008 09:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jecht wrote on Fri, 11 January 2008 16:11

RoShamBo wrote on Thu, 10 January 2008 20:06

cheesesoda wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 20:02

RoShamBo wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 14:37

Consider this; a human egg is released and destroyed every month if it isn't fertilized. Each and every one of them has the potential of turning into a contributer to our society.

Yet if you would have read my post, you would see that the potential is completely different.


So what? You're saying human eggs don't have the potential of turning into a working citizen? So, then, tell us how it really happens.




A human egg has absolutely zero potential to become a human by itself. You see, when a mommy and a daddy love each other very much...ect,ect.


The potential is still there. If you put a rock on a ledge, it still has the potential to fall. It just needs a push.
Re: Pro Life or Pro choice? [message #309850 is a reply to message #308883] Fri, 11 January 2008 09:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The rock has to be on the edge of the cliff, first.

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Re: Pro Life or Pro choice? [message #309861 is a reply to message #309849] Fri, 11 January 2008 10:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RoShamBo wrote on Fri, 11 January 2008 17:42

Jecht wrote on Fri, 11 January 2008 16:11



A human egg has absolutely zero potential to become a human by itself. You see, when a mommy and a daddy love each other very much...ect,ect.


The potential is still there. If you put a rock on a ledge, it still has the potential to fall. It just needs a push.


A flawed philosophical analogy at best.


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Re: Pro Life or Pro choice? [message #309931 is a reply to message #308883] Fri, 11 January 2008 15:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I agree.

Heres a better analogy.

A chicken egg can turn into a Chicken. It can also turn into my breakfast. Are they the same? No. They're completely different. Until its a human. Its not a human.

Lets just remind everyone: If you can't think, can't feel, can't act, can't do ANYTHING, I have some news for you....You aren't alive, and you most certainly aren't human. The ''child'' can't say HEY, DON'T KILL ME! They don't think, therefore, they don't care. The sad reality would be, if a 5 year old child were to die instantly, just vaporized into thin air, they would never know, and wouldn't be sad. Thats why its stupid to say things like ''Oh poor billy. He didn't even get the chance to have a life''. People forget. The dead person doesn't care, its YOU who cares.

My view is, if the woman has a legitimate reason, or a reason that could keep from endangering society further, let her do it.
Re: Pro Life or Pro choice? [message #309935 is a reply to message #309931] Fri, 11 January 2008 15:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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MWright967 wrote on Fri, 11 January 2008 14:12

I agree.

Heres a better analogy.

A chicken egg can turn into a Chicken. It can also turn into my breakfast. Are they the same? No. They're completely different. Until its a human. Its not a human.

Lets just remind everyone: If you can't think, can't feel, can't act, can't do ANYTHING, I have some news for you....You aren't alive, and you most certainly aren't human. The ''child'' can't say HEY, DON'T KILL ME! They don't think, therefore, they don't care. The sad reality would be, if a 5 year old child were to die instantly, just vaporized into thin air, they would never know, and wouldn't be sad. Thats why its stupid to say things like ''Oh poor billy. He didn't even get the chance to have a life''. People forget. The dead person doesn't care, its YOU who cares.

My view is, if the woman has a legitimate reason, or a reason that could keep from endangering society further, let her do it.



I think this is just about the first thing you've posted that I agree with.


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Re: Pro Life or Pro choice? [message #309947 is a reply to message #309935] Fri, 11 January 2008 16:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dover wrote on Fri, 11 January 2008 16:28

MWright967 wrote on Fri, 11 January 2008 14:12

I agree.

Heres a better analogy.

A chicken egg can turn into a Chicken. It can also turn into my breakfast. Are they the same? No. They're completely different. Until its a human. Its not a human.

Lets just remind everyone: If you can't think, can't feel, can't act, can't do ANYTHING, I have some news for you....You aren't alive, and you most certainly aren't human. The ''child'' can't say HEY, DON'T KILL ME! They don't think, therefore, they don't care. The sad reality would be, if a 5 year old child were to die instantly, just vaporized into thin air, they would never know, and wouldn't be sad. Thats why its stupid to say things like ''Oh poor billy. He didn't even get the chance to have a life''. People forget. The dead person doesn't care, its YOU who cares.

My view is, if the woman has a legitimate reason, or a reason that could keep from endangering society further, let her do it.



I think this is just about the first thing you've posted that I agree with.


Oh, no. You agreed with me that I was wrong about the rockets. Technically speaking Listen
Re: Pro Life or Pro choice? [message #310013 is a reply to message #309947] Fri, 11 January 2008 19:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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MWright967 wrote on Fri, 11 January 2008 15:14

Dover wrote on Fri, 11 January 2008 16:28

MWright967 wrote on Fri, 11 January 2008 14:12

I agree.

Heres a better analogy.

A chicken egg can turn into a Chicken. It can also turn into my breakfast. Are they the same? No. They're completely different. Until its a human. Its not a human.

Lets just remind everyone: If you can't think, can't feel, can't act, can't do ANYTHING, I have some news for you....You aren't alive, and you most certainly aren't human. The ''child'' can't say HEY, DON'T KILL ME! They don't think, therefore, they don't care. The sad reality would be, if a 5 year old child were to die instantly, just vaporized into thin air, they would never know, and wouldn't be sad. Thats why its stupid to say things like ''Oh poor billy. He didn't even get the chance to have a life''. People forget. The dead person doesn't care, its YOU who cares.

My view is, if the woman has a legitimate reason, or a reason that could keep from endangering society further, let her do it.



I think this is just about the first thing you've posted that I agree with.


Oh, no. You agreed with me that I was wrong about the rockets. Technically speaking Listen


That was YOU agreeing with ME.


DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19

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Re: Pro Life or Pro choice? [message #310026 is a reply to message #310013] Fri, 11 January 2008 19:36 Go to previous message
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Dover wrote on Fri, 11 January 2008 20:22

MWright967 wrote on Fri, 11 January 2008 15:14

Dover wrote on Fri, 11 January 2008 16:28

MWright967 wrote on Fri, 11 January 2008 14:12

I agree.

Heres a better analogy.

A chicken egg can turn into a Chicken. It can also turn into my breakfast. Are they the same? No. They're completely different. Until its a human. Its not a human.

Lets just remind everyone: If you can't think, can't feel, can't act, can't do ANYTHING, I have some news for you....You aren't alive, and you most certainly aren't human. The ''child'' can't say HEY, DON'T KILL ME! They don't think, therefore, they don't care. The sad reality would be, if a 5 year old child were to die instantly, just vaporized into thin air, they would never know, and wouldn't be sad. Thats why its stupid to say things like ''Oh poor billy. He didn't even get the chance to have a life''. People forget. The dead person doesn't care, its YOU who cares.

My view is, if the woman has a legitimate reason, or a reason that could keep from endangering society further, let her do it.



I think this is just about the first thing you've posted that I agree with.


Oh, no. You agreed with me that I was wrong about the rockets. Technically speaking Listen


That was YOU agreeing with ME.


Then I suppose we agree to disagree.
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