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| The AMT Sucks. [message #98746] |
Thu, 01 July 2004 22:18   |
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Hydra
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| amid_tha_rubble |
Since the libs have been in power waiting lists have gotten longer, beds, doctors and nurses have disappeared, and Canadians are dying on wait lists. Martin has no room to talk on health care. Not only that, but quebec has 17 PRIVATE MRI CLINICS. Paul martin was content to harp on the west and Klein, while conveniently ignoring his OWN HOME PROVINCE'S PRIVATE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.
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Such is the grim reality of a healthcare system controlled by the government. That's why the United States doesn't have a socialized healthcare system.
Walter Keith Koester: September 22, 1962 - March 15, 2005
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| The AMT Sucks. [message #98806] |
Fri, 02 July 2004 06:19 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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And why the United States does have 44 million uninsured Americans.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| The AMT Sucks. [message #98812] |
Fri, 02 July 2004 06:53 |
KIRBY098
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| SuperFlyingEngi |
And why the United States does have 44 million uninsured Americans.
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Who still have access to speedy healthcare irregardless of Insurance status.
Hospitals takes millions in losses treating unisured patients, but no one is denied care.
While not perfect, it is better than socialized healthcare that the dems would have you beleive is the answer.
Privatization breeds inventiveness, and competitiveness where socialization breeds laziness, and complacency.
I tire of Democrats telling us the answer to our problems is for the goverment to take control, and provide everything for us. Get off your asses, and go to work and EARN your way in this world.
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| The AMT Sucks. [message #98823] |
Fri, 02 July 2004 07:44 |
KIRBY098
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The whole matter can't be resolved by partisan politics, that's for sure.
If congress was intelligent, they should hand the whole thing off to a consortium of Professionals from the Medical, Insurance, Legal, and Governmental fields. They can then make thier recommendations, and the Congress can vote yea, or nay.
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| The AMT Sucks. [message #98828] |
Fri, 02 July 2004 07:51 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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Ah yes, the good 'ole lobbyists coming in to re-write the bills to help themselves. Just like the new Energy bill. If docotrs and people were willing to offer enough money to the Republicans in Congress, they could walk right in and make any and all chaanges that they wanted. This is generally not good.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| The AMT Sucks. [message #98829] |
Fri, 02 July 2004 07:53 |
KIRBY098
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| SuperFlyingEngi |
Ah yes, the good 'ole lobbyists coming in to re-write the bills to help themselves. Just like the new Energy bill. If docotrs and people were willing to offer enough money to the Republicans in Congress, they could walk right in and make any and all chaanges that they wanted. This is generally not good.
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True to bipartisan doctrine, you have missed the core of what I was stating.
The governmental representatives (duly appointed by the lower house of reps) would counterbalance the others.
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| The AMT Sucks. [message #98833] |
Fri, 02 July 2004 07:58 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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Well, for aall of the lobbyists running around right now, i wouldn't expect a bill that benefits everyone to come out of a bunch of "experts."
Every American should have the basic right to life. If they need medical care, they should be able to get medical care. Pretty much all of the modernized countries in the world today have availible medical care for all, except the U.S. If we took all of the money we waste on crap programs like Star Wars, and put it in to the medical insurance for all pot, many fewer people would die as a result from diseases and injurys that can be treated. If a child has child leukemia, but no health insurance, hospitals sort of shake their heads and say they can't do anything about it. If the child does have insurance, then the hospitals say, "Okay, that's easy to treat." America shouldn't work this way. Everyone should have access to good medical treatment, regardless of how rich or poor they are.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| The AMT Sucks. [message #98839] |
Fri, 02 July 2004 08:11 |
KIRBY098
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| SuperFlyingEngi |
Well, for aall of the lobbyists running around right now, i wouldn't expect a bill that benefits everyone to come out of a bunch of "experts."
Every American should have the basic right to life. If they need medical care, they should be able to get medical care. Pretty much all of the modernized countries in the world today have availible medical care for all, except the U.S. If we took all of the money we waste on crap programs like Star Wars, and put it in to the medical insurance for all pot, many fewer people would die as a result from diseases and injurys that can be treated. If a child has child leukemia, but no health insurance, hospitals sort of shake their heads and say they can't do anything about it. If the child does have insurance, then the hospitals say, "Okay, that's easy to treat." America shouldn't work this way. Everyone should have access to good medical treatment, regardless of how rich or poor they are.
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And what would the Democratic solution be for a guy like me that holds a job, and pays 1/5 of my pay to ensure that my family has benefits?
Because if you tell me that people with no jobs get the same treatment as someone like me with two freakin jobs , then you can stick that theory where the sun doesn't shine.
What incentive is thee for me to even work then? I can just sit at home, collect welfare, get my free food, free home repairs, and healthcare.
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| The AMT Sucks. [message #98849] |
Fri, 02 July 2004 08:40 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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What incentive is thee for me to even work then? I can just sit at home, collect welfare, get my free food, free home repairs, and healthcare.
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You'd still live in poverty. What I'm suggesting is that any American citizen who needs medical attention should be able to get it. I don't necessarily agree with those other things you listed.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| The AMT Sucks. [message #100139] |
Wed, 07 July 2004 08:57 |
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amid_tha_rubble
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regardless of the fixing our system needs, i still have free health care, and if i get cancer and need chemotherapy or surgery, then it's free. If I get hit by a bus on the way to work, i can go to the hospital right away, and not pay a cent.
And in regards to someone's earlier claim of 44 million uninsured americans still having "speedy acess" to health care - that's a farce. They're uninsured because they can't pay. If they can't pay, how are they supposed to have speedy access to a system that will bill you $21 for a pill of tylenol?
This is my last post here btw. Cheers!
Down with the Liberal Thieves in Ottawa!
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| The AMT Sucks. [message #100812] |
Sat, 10 July 2004 16:31 |
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| MrBob |
You Canadians need a Libertarian Party. 
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Lol, we have one, glad it's not a conservative governement.
I suck cock and love it... absolutely love it. And I just got banned for being too immature to be allowed to post here.
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