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Re: Pro Life or Pro choice? [message #309305 is a reply to message #309258] |
Wed, 09 January 2008 15:47 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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R315r4z0r wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 13:57 | Of course everyone is going to say it is bad.
But not everyone will ACTUALLY agree. I'll bet more than half the people in this thread that say abortion, or killing an unborn baby, is wrong. However those people probably are only saying that for the image, they most likely don't believe in what they said themselves or if they do, to a much lesser extent of what they did explain.
What I'm saying is that people will try to reply the obvious moral answer, but their true opinions will not surface.
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The obvious moral answer? Here's the obvious moral answer. Women don't stick anything up the government's womb. It should keep their laws out of theirs.
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Re: Pro Life or Pro choice? [message #309311 is a reply to message #309308] |
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R315r4z0r wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 22:50 | What if I was to ask you if you think gathering every single person in the world with incurable diseases, like AIDS, and grouping them onto remote locations and detonating them with a large bomb?
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It won't make AID's disappear.
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Re: Pro Life or Pro choice? [message #309312 is a reply to message #309308] |
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R315r4z0r wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 14:50 | What if I was to ask you if you think gathering every single person in the world with incurable diseases, like AIDS, and grouping them onto remote locations and detonating them with a large bomb?
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I can't see the relevence, but it would have to be handled at a case-to-case basis. Magic Johnson has AIDS, and I doubt he'll die before he's 90.
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Re: Pro Life or Pro choice? [message #309313 is a reply to message #309311] |
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Starbuzz wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 17:51 |
R315r4z0r wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 22:50 | What if I was to ask you if you think gathering every single person in the world with incurable diseases, like AIDS, and grouping them onto remote locations and detonating them with a large bomb?
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It won't make AID's disappear.
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Ah, but it would drastically slow the spread, now wouldn't it?
And yes, it is very relevant to what I said earlier. Most people will say "No, killing is wrong and we shouldn't stoop that low to get rid of one problem." Where as in reality they may or may not converse it to themselves or totally agree with the idea.
It is all about public appearances, that is just how humans work.
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Re: Pro Life or Pro choice? [message #309319 is a reply to message #309313] |
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R315r4z0r wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 16:55 |
Starbuzz wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 17:51 |
R315r4z0r wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 22:50 | What if I was to ask you if you think gathering every single person in the world with incurable diseases, like AIDS, and grouping them onto remote locations and detonating them with a large bomb?
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It won't make AID's disappear.
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Ah, but it would drastically slow the spread, now wouldn't it?
And yes, it is very relevant to what I said earlier. Most people will say "No, killing is wrong and we shouldn't stoop that low to get rid of one problem." Where as in reality they may or may not converse it to themselves or totally agree with the idea.
It is all about public appearances, that is just how humans work.
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And when did I ever endorse OR condemn your idea?
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Re: Pro Life or Pro choice? [message #309342 is a reply to message #308883] |
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Jecht wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 04:15
There is one instance for when abortion should be legal, and only one from my current viewpoint. That is the case for when the mother could be harmed in the case of birthing, or carrying the child.
Then what about the "voice of the child"?
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The woman has the right to her life as well, I know from some people of the pro-life community that believe that abortion in any circumstance is immoral. But I view this circumstance like a person coming at you with a knife...you have a right to defend yourself, thus a mother has a right to terminate a pregnancy if carrying or delivering a child will cause serious harm or death.
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Re: Pro Life or Pro choice? [message #309369 is a reply to message #309339] |
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Blazer wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 15:57 | Women have the "right" to do whatever they want with their body. You could outlaw "abortion" but then they would just get a friend to punch them in the stomach or fall down some stairs etc so it would get done as an "accident". There is no way to police it so why bother doing anything other than discussing the morality of it.
I guess what I'm saying it, it doesn't matter if YOU are pro life or pro choice...its the pregnant womans choice and nobody elses.
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QFT.
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Re: Pro Life or Pro choice? [message #309459 is a reply to message #308883] |
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Even though I support choice, it doesn't mean I think it's moral. However, I do think that it is better than being born and living life of suffering. To the people who say that innocent babies shouldn't be killed, why should the innocent babies be suffering?
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Re: Pro Life or Pro choice? [message #309488 is a reply to message #309255] |
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cheesesoda wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 22:52 | It has nothing to do with personal morals if you view it as a child. Most, if not all of us, will agree that killing a person is a bad thing. I couldn't give a fuck less about what someone does to their body, but I'm not going to agree with abortion if I feel that it's murder.
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Thing is, is a less then 3 month old fetus a child/human, or something that might become a human (it might also fail to do that eh...)
As it doesn't respond to stimuli, I would ay that it is not alive yet, every living thing responds to stimuli, one way or another.
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