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| Re: God responds to lawsuit [message #286017 is a reply to message #285852] |
Sun, 23 September 2007 20:52   |
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| cheesesoda wrote on Sun, 23 September 2007 07:48 |
| Crimson wrote on Sun, 23 September 2007 10:17 |
| cheesesoda wrote on Sat, 22 September 2007 05:04 |
| Tunaman wrote on Sat, 22 September 2007 04:40 |
I think that Agnostic basically means you believe there is a higher power, but do not believe in any certain god or higher power; basically you don't know what the higher power is.
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I think that's deism. I think agnosticism is not denying the existence of a god, but you're not sure if there is one.
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Well if that ain't the pot calling the kettle black, I don't know what is. I have asked repeatedly for proof of God's existence and yet my "God detector" remains at "No".
http://www.yo-god.com/
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You obviously don't know what is, then. Me correcting someone on the definition of a belief system is hardly being hypocritical.
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| cheesesoda wrote on Fri, 21 September 2007 17:41 |
| Crimson wrote on Fri, 21 September 2007 20:34 |
Obviously some mortal human here on earth made that happen. Believers can't handle someone trying to prove there is no god and will make every effort to interfere with it.
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Yes, it's called a belief system. If someone insults your beliefs, it makes complete sense to try and defend your beliefs. You know, the same way Republicans try and defend the Iraq War.
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^ This is the post I meant to quote. I scrolled back up and picked the wrong one of your two one-line replies.
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| Re: God responds to lawsuit [message #286018 is a reply to message #286003] |
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| Ryu wrote on Sun, 23 September 2007 19:56 |
Religion is a form of mind control, It was used hundreds of years ago, And now we have the "law", So religion is obsolete.
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QFT
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| Re: God responds to lawsuit [message #286112 is a reply to message #285483] |
Mon, 24 September 2007 08:37 |
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Simple. Religion was created in order to exploit the human's natural desire to know "why am I here?", "where did I come from?" and "what happens when I die?" (and other things as well, essentially the "god of the gaps" argument to explain anything that isn't yet explained by science or understood by the person giving the argument) in the attempt to ensure that said human will do only good things. Very few people controlling a vast majority of them with the promise of the eternal reward of heaven and the eternal punishment of hell for those who don't obey.
I'm the bawss.
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| Re: God responds to lawsuit [message #286167 is a reply to message #286112] |
Mon, 24 September 2007 12:52 |
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| Crimson wrote on Mon, 24 September 2007 09:37 |
Simple. Religion was created in order to exploit the human's natural desire to know "why am I here?", "where did I come from?" and "what happens when I die?" (and other things as well, essentially the "god of the gaps" argument to explain anything that isn't yet explained by science or understood by the person giving the argument) in the attempt to ensure that said human will do only good things. Very few people controlling a vast majority of them with the promise of the eternal reward of heaven and the eternal punishment of hell for those who don't obey.
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(Heh, I didn't intend for this to get into a full argument - I was going to leave it alone after the last comment, but since it's not in the heated discussions section.... why not?)
I say again, this deals with God's existence... how?
Ok, some people use religion as an excuse to have an answer to everything, and others use it as a controlling factor. This offers nothing related to the existence of God. Even if those were to be true, it does not preclude the existence God... just that those people are using him as a means to an end.
Perhaps, you meant this as means of "proof" for religion being a mind control factor? Sorry, your statement is anything but proof. After all, people attribute Renguard to you, Crimson, yet that is false. (I shall call this the "Crimson of the Gap") Therefore Crimson, I am sorry to tell you, but you do not exist.
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| Re: God responds to lawsuit [message #286174 is a reply to message #286171] |
Mon, 24 September 2007 13:16 |
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Maybe religion was just devised as a safeguard to stop people going crazy so they'd get a good afterlife (Islam being a rather curious exception, obviously)
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| Re: God responds to lawsuit [message #286224 is a reply to message #285483] |
Mon, 24 September 2007 17:23 |
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Just to think hundreds, If not thousands of years ago (Well 2000 years ago anyway.  ) We had people running around, stealing, killing, etc etc, And a bunch of guys wanted to stop it all.
But how? Let's scare them, So you write a book, Give it one hell of a story, And viola.
the 10 commandments.
Thou shall not steal, etc. If they do all these 10 commandments, repent for there sins, they get a awesome afterlife !
To think we're here now, So I guess it worked eh? But now we have the law, and people to enforce the law, So religion is just something you believe in now.
I really don't mind if you believe on God, And I'm not here to stop you, Or insult you for believing, But there is one thing I ask, Don't try and force it on me. 
Presence is a curious thing, if you think you need to prove it... you probably never had it in the first place.
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| Re: God responds to lawsuit [message #286228 is a reply to message #286225] |
Mon, 24 September 2007 17:38 |
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| razorblade001 wrote on Mon, 24 September 2007 19:27 |
There is one thing that I don't like about Christianity though. It is that your able to be forgiven.
So basically, if your a Christian, you can go out and kill like 30 people, then go to church, confess your sin, and boom, your forgiven. :\
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But a christian honestly won't do that... and if one did, he/she would not be forgiven if one doesn't mean the apology. Meaning, deep in that one's mind, while asking for forgivenes... is probably thinking "after I ask, I go kill more people!"
or at least that's my theory.
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| Re: God responds to lawsuit [message #286237 is a reply to message #286225] |
Mon, 24 September 2007 18:02 |
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| razorblade001 wrote on Mon, 24 September 2007 20:27 |
So basically, if your a Christian, you can go out and kill like 30 people, then go to church, confess your sin, and boom, your forgiven. :\
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So basically, if your an Atheist, you can go out and make assumptions about the church that have no real basis other than an ignorant knowledge of God's mercy and grace.
whoa.
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| Re: God responds to lawsuit [message #286257 is a reply to message #286228] |
Mon, 24 September 2007 19:31 |
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| BlueThen wrote on Mon, 24 September 2007 20:38 |
| razorblade001 wrote on Mon, 24 September 2007 19:27 |
There is one thing that I don't like about Christianity though. It is that your able to be forgiven.
So basically, if your a Christian, you can go out and kill like 30 people, then go to church, confess your sin, and boom, your forgiven. :\
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But a christian honestly won't do that... and if one did, he/she would not be forgiven if one doesn't mean the apology. Meaning, deep in that one's mind, while asking for forgivenes... is probably thinking "after I ask, I go kill more people!"
or at least that's my theory.
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Yes, I guess your right. It would need to be a sort of pure kind of thing body & mind. Unless your truly sincere.
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| Re: God responds to lawsuit [message #286421 is a reply to message #285483] |
Tue, 25 September 2007 16:11 |
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Will people please read the bible? I don't care if you don't believe in it but at least come in here with a decent sense of what it is you're talking about. Hell, Just read the New testament, it isn't that long.
I understand if you decide you don't want to believe in it, but don't argue that my religion is fake when you don't even take the time to know what it's about.
Sorry for the short rant, but that really bugs me sometimes.
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