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| To: SuperFlyingEngi - Please refute this [message #134722] |
Thu, 27 January 2005 18:42   |
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cowmisfit
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Try to avoid name calling. If you believe in your stance and what you're saying enough, you should be able to state it without personal insults...
...Though these forums, and also the internet, do not guarantee you freedom of speech, American or not, you will pretty much have it in here, so long as it's not abused. You will be contacted privately if you get out of hand.
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Crimson, might I suggest enforcement? cowmisfit can barely go a single post without getting crude and slanderous.
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ROFL, so someone makes some smartass comment to me, and you expect me not to say anything eh? I suppose thats the normal liberal approach.
And my "slander" against you is true. You DO get your views from your father , YOUR FATHER IS MIS-GUIDED AND WRONG AND INSTILLING VALUES OF HATE FOR YOUR OWN COUNTRY AND ITS POLICIES INTO YOU.
Its not slander or insulting if its true.
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| To: SuperFlyingEngi - Please refute this [message #134726] |
Thu, 27 January 2005 19:01 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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Subjective reality should not be portrayed as an absolute truth.
And by the way, in case my point went right over your head, I was referring to your excessively crude choice of language and name-calling.
Oh, and you obviously highly misinterpreted what I said. Read you first senctence. No, read it 15 times. Then read what I said. Repeat until you can contrast the obvious errors.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
The Liberal Media At Work
An objective look at media partisanship
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| To: SuperFlyingEngi - Please refute this [message #134739] |
Thu, 27 January 2005 19:35 |
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cowmisfit
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Subjective reality should not be portrayed as an absolute truth.
And by the way, in case my point went right over your head, I was referring to your excessively crude choice of language and name-calling.
Oh, and you obviously highly misinterpreted what I said. Read you first senctence. No, read it 15 times. Then read what I said. Repeat until you can contrast the obvious errors.
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awww is the baby offended by my naughty words?? I think it helps to get my point accross. If i say "Liberal Tool you are such a silly guy" it wouldn't give it the same effect as if i said "Liberal Tool your a worthless excuse for a American you dumb fucker"
Ya see my point?? Didn't think so.
Read my first sentence?? I already did , whats wrong with it? Can't face truth? Ah, I don't expect much from you so im not all that disappointed.
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The "baby" is sick and tired of your idiocy. Why don't you just try to calm down your stupidity to the 4th grader level so we can start having constructive arguments here?
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Its okay, your designs are not that bad, its okay. Focus your anger elsewere, you know like before you started coming to this forum simply to bash me and not make any constructive points.
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| To: SuperFlyingEngi - Please refute this [message #134744] |
Thu, 27 January 2005 19:42 |
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cowmisfit
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They're both ad hominem.
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What the hell did you just say? Please define what that means, i've asked 5 or 6 people and they've never heard that.
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http://www.google.com
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Translated from Latin to English, "Ad Hominem" means "against the man" or "against the person."
An Ad Hominem is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument. Typically, this fallacy involves two steps. First, an attack against the character of person making the claim, her circumstances, or her actions is made (or the character, circumstances, or actions of the person reporting the claim). Second, this attack is taken to be evidence against the claim or argument the person in question is making (or presenting). This type of "argument" has the following form:
1. Person A makes claim X.
2. Person B makes an attack on person A.
3. Therefore A's claim is false.
The reason why an Ad Hominem (of any kind) is a fallacy is that the character, circumstances, or actions of a person do not (in most cases) have a bearing on the truth or falsity of the claim being made (or the quality of the argument being made).
No no no, your missing the point here.
Im telling the truth, he's father is instilling values that make him a horrid excuse for an American. His claim doesn't make mine false. I win.
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| To: SuperFlyingEngi - Please refute this [message #134746] |
Thu, 27 January 2005 19:44 |
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cowmisfit
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No, HIS UNDERSTANDING is different than your's. To YOU it's stupid but to him it reflects his personal concept of his patriotism. I, or you, don't necessarily have to agree with it, but to scorn it is just as bad as what you accuse him of.
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So your saying i shouldn't say anything scornful about his opinon, not say / do anything.
Kinda the same approch people like him took on Iraq. "you know, saddam is a really big menie, but we shoudln't scorn his point of view or actions, that would be wrong, even if he is killing thousands of woman and children, there only iraqi what do we care."
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| To: SuperFlyingEngi - Please refute this [message #134748] |
Thu, 27 January 2005 19:47 |
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cheesesoda
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No, HIS UNDERSTANDING is different than your's. To YOU it's stupid but to him it reflects his personal concept of his patriotism. I, or you, don't necessarily have to agree with it, but to scorn it is just as bad as what you accuse him of.
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So your saying i shouldn't say anything scornful about his opinon, not say / do anything.
Kinda the same approch people like him took on Iraq. "you know, saddam is a really big menie, but we shoudln't scorn his point of view or actions, that would be wrong, even if he is killing thousands of woman and children, there only iraqi what do we care."
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Of course, not. Then that would mean we're taking action because of our morals, but we all know what morals lead to... sex because we all know that everything leads to sex.
whoa.
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| To: SuperFlyingEngi - Please refute this [message #134751] |
Thu, 27 January 2005 19:54 |
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cowmisfit
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No no no, your missing the point here.
Im telling the truth, he's father is instilling values that make him a horrid excuse for an American. His claim doesn't make mine false. I win.
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No, THESE are examples of ad hominem:
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Jesus chirst your dumb.
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awww is the baby offended by my naughty words?? I think it helps to get my point accross.
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Ya see my point?? Didn't think so.
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Ah, I don't expect much from you so im not all that disappointed.
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Ad hominem is, in laymen's terms "attacking the person but not the issues". Which is something you are known for.
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I add these "Ad Hominem" things around me attacking the issues. I attack the issues i just add little insults into for effect. (o and before you post again, i dont' give a shit if you don't think i need the insults, its just me, if your dumb im gonna say your dumb, if your views suck, im going to say your views suck. get over it.)
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