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| The Passion of the Christ [message #77368] |
Thu, 08 April 2004 19:06   |
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amid_tha_rubble
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wow....this thread went horribly wrong. Can i ask crimson or someone to lock it before someone slaughters the huguenots or tells the catholics they can't hold land or public office...AGAIN?
A few points: The bible is the official cannon of the catholic church, meant to supplement church teachings. To accept it's authority, you have to accept the authority of the church that created it. (prbly shoulnd't a said that, eh?)
We catholics ask people up there to pray for us to God. Asking a saint/mary to pray for you is no different than talking to your dead grandmother or parent...you're just having a chat through prayer.
The pope is only infallible in spiritual matters ONLY. And this infallibility clause has only been used TWICE in 2000 years. So it's not like the pope-a-rope goes willy nilly with the infa'billy.
I forget the other things i had to had to say.
soap.
poo.
Plastic Bag.
I AM THE DEVIL! 
Down with the Liberal Thieves in Ottawa!
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| The Passion of the Christ [message #77370] |
Thu, 08 April 2004 19:09 |
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amid_tha_rubble
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ah, yes.
okay, you caught me in a lie.
I AM THE DEVIL'S GAY LOVER!
Saddam hussein of course.
Down with the Liberal Thieves in Ottawa!
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| The Passion of the Christ [message #77406] |
Thu, 08 April 2004 19:55 |
GodofDeath
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My views on the film:
***spoilers***
Jesus killing the snake in the garden: While I know the snake represented evil, the snake was nonetheless a living creature, so why did Jesus kill?
The seeming infinite amount of blood: Jesus bled so much that IMO he would have either contracted hypothemia from exposure, or simply bled to death. Remember that the guards did beat him after his "chastising". Moreso, even on the walk with the cross; with all the open bleeding wounds, how can his physical body endure so much without failing?
The raven pecking Gebble's (sp) eyes out: While I know that one of the men crucified with Jesus went to Heaven, the other went to hell, I don't remember a raven appearing and torturing him.
The destruction of the Temple and the shattering of the Tabernacle: Again, I don't recall (at least from my Catholic upbringing and exposer) that after Jesus' death, the Temple split OR the Tabernacle shattered. And if this DID happen, wouldn't the Jewish people have reformed?
Just some questions, perhaps someone can enlighten me.
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I am new to this forum but I can answer your questions from my stand point!
Jesus smashing the head of the serpent is symbolism for a passage in Genesis...
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"...and I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed:You shall strike at his heel and he shall stomp on your head..."
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It is true that Jesus did lose a lot of blood!! Doesnt that show you his divinity?? I mean how many people could lose that amount of blood and still have the strength to go on!
THe Raven pecking out the man's eyes are showing us, again through symbolism the horrors and grossness of sin!
The temple splitting was a little over done of course, but it was over done to show you the severity of what grieveous sin the people committed and acctually if you have learned a little of the Jewish faith you would know that When they are condemning the Lord they say the following...
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"We have no king but Caesar!!!"
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In the normal Jewish faith that is the ultimate blasphemy!! You are saying that a simple man is king over God which is completely untrue!!! Thus you see how sin can start off one thing but then spiral into worser and worser things!! In scripture all they say was that the temple veil was split in 2. This veil was ment to section off a holy area that only the high priest could enter on Yom Kippur. It is where God is supposed to be in the temple and if it is ripped in 2 then anyone can see in and it shows that God is not there! Thus God is showing them the grievious sin they committed again!! Also the Jews would not have reformed because they though one what they were doing was right by the way the Sanhedrin convinced them! And two they were in the state of mortal sin which blinds people!
Also for the few of you who may be wondering my religion teacher explained to us what the devil holding that ugly baby meant. It is just a way of the Devil mocking Jesus and Mary's relationship
Also yes we asks Saints and Mary to pray for us, they are closer to God then we are and here on Earth we need all the Prayers we can get!!! So no talking to Bill Clinton wont get u jack squat one he is here on Earth and two. ewww ewww ewww!  !!!!
Anyway by now if you are wondering I am Catholic and I believe that the movie was very touching!! It brought me to a more understanding of what Christ endured for our sins. He didnt have to come down as a lowly human but did so to show us how much he loves us. I also think that in no way did it ever come near to being anti-semitic. It was based off the Bible. In the Bible the Jews condemned him. They messed up but o well. We cant hold it against the present Jews. Anyway that was my view on The Passion! Hope I learned you all a thing or two!!! Sorry for the occasional spelling error and of course if oyu wish to look up bible passages http://www.bible.com is one of the best places!!!!
I am your God...of Death!
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| The Passion of the Christ [message #77415] |
Thu, 08 April 2004 20:11 |
GodofDeath
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Ok for one Jesus was a model for his Apostles and told them to do what he did! Priest have special grace from God!! Also when you confess to a priest you are getting your sins off your chest! One it is humbling you because you are telling them very personal stuff sometimes and two it is good to talk about things!! I find Confession is very rewarding and uplifting! 
I am your God...of Death!
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| The Passion of the Christ [message #77421] |
Thu, 08 April 2004 20:19 |
GodofDeath
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But you don't need to go through a priest. you have DIRECT access to God. That's why the temple tore in half. The temple was where the priests came to confess the sins of others. Since he tore the temple in half, he gave direct access to us.
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One he didnt tear the temple in half he tore the the Teample veil and it was done to show us that he wasnt present! And like I said you dont have to but it is a very humbling experience. If you have never done it before then you dont understand where I am coming from! I recommend to you this. Go to a catholic church and just talk to a priest. You may be very surprised on how knowledgable they are! I am just talking about what I have learned so far. I dont claim to know everything about the subject or where you are comming from. I am telling through MY personal experiences. Maybe you could sit through a Mass. But I would suggest to you to just go talk to a priest. Try it! Are you scared? You should be they will bite your head off!!! I know thats what your scared of!!!!! Kidding! Seriously though, just go talk with him!! Ask him those questions that you are asking me!
I am your God...of Death!
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| The Passion of the Christ [message #77430] |
Thu, 08 April 2004 20:24 |
GodofDeath
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Call him call me what you wish i dont give a shyt! Dont bother me none! I know he is a cool guy!
I am your God...of Death!
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| The Passion of the Christ [message #77435] |
Thu, 08 April 2004 20:27 |
GodofDeath
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SAY WHAT YOU WANT!!! YOUR JUST SCARED TO EVEN GO NEAR A PRIEST AREN'T YOU!!! THAT IS SAD!!!!! I SAY JUST GO TALK TO A PRIEST YOU DONT HAVE TO CONFESS YOUR SINS JUST TALK TO THEM ABOUT YOUR VIEWS!!!! STOP BEING A PUSSY AND JUST GO VISIT THEM!!!!
I am your God...of Death!
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| The Passion of the Christ [message #77439] |
Thu, 08 April 2004 20:31 |
GodofDeath
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PASTORS AND PRIESTS ARE DIFFERENT!!!! You were catholic until 6th grade? Why what happned? Are you following what your parents probably did? Are you uncomfortable around priests what? Just because you knew them until 6th grade means jack what matters is now u are old enough to go have a real heart to heart! Stop being hard hearted! What are you afraid of that they will change you views?
I am your God...of Death!
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| The Passion of the Christ [message #77442] |
Thu, 08 April 2004 20:33 |
GodofDeath
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I read his posts! Some of them start off completly diferent with like starting a server! Said nuthing offensive then people start criticizing him and he has to go defensive immediately@
I am your God...of Death!
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