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Aircraftkiller is currently offline  Aircraftkiller
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They are relevant because almost all the "betas" are the same as the shitty current release.
CNC REBORN : BIG UPDATE [message #99250] Sat, 03 July 2004 14:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Reborn is trying so much to make their models look nice, and are not showing any proof of fixing the gameplay. A really nice looking game/mod with poor gameplay is incredibly useless...

Their models have been improved, but most of them still look like shit.
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Renardin6



Steppo : lier.

Very Happy lol @ you


I'd point to AoD's original statement that their first public release was going to be completely bug free and whatnot, but I'm too lazy to care.

The "six betas ago" was called cynical humor. But the point gets across. Every beta that has been released in any form was supposed to fix "x" number of bugs, yet we're still seeing every damn bug in the game left over from the US internal beta days.

Though I must admit, i can't bash Renardin as much as I bashed AoD. Renardin actually has a sense of humor. Damn. THWARTED AGAIN.
CNC REBORN : BIG UPDATE [message #99365] Sun, 04 July 2004 08:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Renardin6 is currently offline  Renardin6
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smwScott

Why should Renardin have to defend his mod to anyone? As far as I know there have only been 5 betas, so saying that he said something 6 betas ago is incorrect. Also, 4 of the betas were internal, which means they're irrelevant. If you got ahold of internal betas from any mod then you could say a lot of shit about it. The public beta that was released at Christmas was a rushed POS, and could have been a lot better if they had kept it inhouse for a month. That was a mistake, but if they can fix it then that's great.

If Renardin is as bad as Angel of Dawn was, then Angel of Dawn wasn't too bad. He's handling himself a lot better than I would if I was constantly badgered everytime I posted a progress report. Actually, I would probably just ignore it, but if I did respond it wouldn't be as polite as he is.


Thank you. Some intelligent people here.

I think I will start ignoring ack again during some time. I am 23... Don't have any more fun with him... It was funny, now it's boring.

But I don't give up. I will bring you a fucking good mod.

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Though I must admit, i can't bash Renardin as much as I bashed AoD. Renardin actually has a sense of humor. Damn. THWARTED AGAIN.
--> thank you Very Happy

I don't take anything seriously here... I am here for the fun and the pleasure of modding. But don't say what I don't say like ack does... Doing something with pleasure and fun is good way of doing some good work. When you don't have pleasure @ what you do, you do the things on a wrong way.

Even if your work is shit, if you enjoy doing it, just go on and ignore the stupids comments of some retards. We are here for the pleasure of a game and its mods, nothing else and don't forget :

http://www.cncreborn.de/ack.jpg

Life is too short to be serious !!! Make humor, not war Very Happy !!!

OMG OMG RENARDIN U SUXXORZ BY POSTING THAT SMURF PIC U CONTRADICT YASELF U DUMB !!!

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I think I will start ignoring ack again during some time. I am 23... Don't have any more fun with him... It was funny, now it's boring.

---> can't be serious as I said... This is why I make a poorly crafted shit mod and will play the poorly crafted shit and love it and take bath with it Razz
CNC REBORN : BIG UPDATE [message #99391] Sun, 04 July 2004 09:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aircraftkiller is currently offline  Aircraftkiller
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That's because you're an idiot, I'm glad you can illustrate my point for me..
CNC REBORN : BIG UPDATE [message #99489] Sun, 04 July 2004 16:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Renardin6


But I don't give up. I will bring you a fucking good mod.

You always promise us that this mod will be "a fucking good mod", and yet you later say "I will release this mod as poorly crafted shit and I don't care."
CNC REBORN : BIG UPDATE [message #99579] Mon, 05 July 2004 02:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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icedog90

Renardin6


But I don't give up. I will bring you a fucking good mod.

You always promise us that this mod will be "a fucking good mod", and yet you later say "I will release this mod as poorly crafted shit and I don't care."


lol... When I say poorly crafted shit, it's ironic.
CNC REBORN : BIG UPDATE [message #99623] Mon, 05 July 2004 11:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aircraftkiller is currently offline  Aircraftkiller
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No, it isn't. It's you being stupid.
CNC REBORN : BIG UPDATE [message #99628] Mon, 05 July 2004 11:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://www.cncreborn.de/fire.jpg
CNC REBORN : BIG UPDATE [message #99639] Mon, 05 July 2004 11:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aircraftkiller is currently offline  Aircraftkiller
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Looks like another plastic Tonka toy...
CNC REBORN : BIG UPDATE [message #99640] Mon, 05 July 2004 12:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No it doesn't.

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CNC REBORN : BIG UPDATE [message #99733] Mon, 05 July 2004 16:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Fabian is currently offline  Fabian
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Fix your concrete textures, then you can talk shit about his plastic textures. Notice how no one talks badly about the model or texture of the M60, and coincidentally, none of it was done by you.
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Aircraftkiller is currently offline  Aircraftkiller
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I saw quite a few dissenters, but then again, you'd have to look at our forums and participate to notice that.

Nothing I make, except what's meant to be rough or concrete-like, looks like concrete. Just because you're a fucking idiot doesn't mean much about my own work.

Also, what does anything you said have to do with his textures looking plastic? That's right, nothing at all. It's called ad hominem, and you're not very good at it.
CNC REBORN : BIG UPDATE [message #99738] Mon, 05 July 2004 16:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Fabian is currently offline  Fabian
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And just because you say it doesn't look like concrete, doesn't make it true.

Aircraftkiller

...you're a fucking idiot...


Sad that you have to resort to attacking me instead of my argument... oh wait! That's ad hominem! Hypocrite.
CNC REBORN : BIG UPDATE [message #99742] Mon, 05 July 2004 17:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aircraftkiller is currently offline  Aircraftkiller
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Here's an idea, how about you go outside and look at some real used metal. Compare it to concrete. I guarantee the only difference in surface texture will be that one probably has rust and the other doesn't.

Metal and concrete are similar in feel and looks. Even smoothed concrete can appear to be just like a bar of steel, and if you apply a gloss coat of paint on it, you'd never tell the difference.

I attacked your argument THEN called you a fucking idiot.. Because that's exactly what you are, in addition to being a forum troll with nothing positive to contribute to anything but your own overinflated sense of self-worth.
CNC REBORN : BIG UPDATE [message #99751] Mon, 05 July 2004 18:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Fabian is currently offline  Fabian
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Aircraftkiller

Here's an idea, how about you go outside and look at some real used metal. Compare it to concrete. I guarantee the only difference in surface texture will be that one probably has rust and the other doesn't.

Metal and concrete are similar in feel and looks. Even smoothed concrete can appear to be just like a bar of steel, and if you apply a gloss coat of paint on it, you'd never tell the difference.


Keep telling yourself that. Funny how multiple people have said your textures are concrete-looking. I bet your sense of the real world is far superior than everyone elses, so I guess only your thought that really matters.

Aircraftkiller

overinflated sense of self-worth

Let me get this straight. Aircraftkiller is telling me I have an overinflated sense of self worth!!? Laughing Laughing

Any trolling I do is with valid (debatable) arguments. You troll with your skin/texture, NOD/Nod, and other anal bullshit.
CNC REBORN : BIG UPDATE [message #99758] Mon, 05 July 2004 19:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aircraftkiller is currently offline  Aircraftkiller
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Well, seeing as how I know several professionals who all say "hey, that looks great, just like metal" and one who says "yeah, don't worry too much about their opinions. They're going to harp on anything you make, just because it's 'you' and no other reason. I know it doesn't look like concrete, so do others, they're just trying to find something to bitch about. Take it with a grain of salt."

Idiots like you who don't know the difference between concrete or metal really don't faze me that much. Once again, go outside for once and compare the two objects.

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Let me get this straight. Aircraftkiller is telling me I have an overinflated sense of self worth!!?


Yes, because you have absolutely no other purpose to responding in this forum except to feed your ego and self-worth. I don't care if contributing members of this community troll a forum. I care when idiots like you, who contribute NOTHING, troll this forum.
CNC REBORN : BIG UPDATE [message #99763] Mon, 05 July 2004 19:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Renardin6 is currently offline  Renardin6
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chill out dude.
CNC REBORN : BIG UPDATE [message #99765] Mon, 05 July 2004 19:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Fabian is currently offline  Fabian
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I don't say your textures look like concrete because you are Ack...

You have produced superb work before, and in fact, most of your work is high quality. But I sincerely think that your recent RA textures all have a similar look, regardless of the material they are supposed to be representing.

By the way, I've contributed a map a long time ago, and while it wasn't very good, it's more than quite a few people on renforums...

Anyway, I decided to take you up on your advice. So I ventured out in search of metal...

http://home.earthlink.net/~mjfabian/metal.jpg

Now, I know metals come in different colors, types, and alloys, but they have a relatively similar texture to them. IMHO, a lot of your metal textures are much flatter and more dull, and have very little detail. Darkblade's textures, for example, represent metal with more clarity and shine.

The bottom line is that you bash Renardin's work, saying his metal looks like plastic. At the same time, however, your work seems to have just as much trouble representing metal textures as his.

And don't call me an idiot. If I really am an idiot, it need not be said, but just exemplified. You are above that...or at least you should be.
CNC REBORN : BIG UPDATE [message #99800] Mon, 05 July 2004 23:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ack_cement8:
http://www.n00bstories.com/image.fetch.php?id=1245475173
ack_lightmetal3:
http://www.n00bstories.com/image.fetch.php?id=1093015062

Both out of renalerts always.dat.


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CNC REBORN : BIG UPDATE [message #99806] Tue, 06 July 2004 00:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Those are Digital photos that were made into textures. Which takes some work but you dont use that for skinning objects. You make those in photoshop.
CNC REBORN : BIG UPDATE [message #100023] Wed, 07 July 2004 00:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ok Mr ACK, lets have a closer look at RenAlert shall we? ^_^

-The model and texture for the M60 is good, however ingame it is too small. You should make it slightly bigger to make it more beefy.
-Flamethrower is crap, its just one texture trying to look like metal with a slight shine around the barrels.
-Your MCT is shit! Keyboard is too big, the screen is too boring, and for the time that the game is set it in should be a bit bigger than that. Add some more stuff underneath it to beef it up.
-The allied turret's actual turret texture looks like plastic! ITS A TONKA TOY xD add some burn back marks at the end of the barrel, that sucks as well.
-The Ore truck looks like a toy!
-The missile is concrete! Ph33r the flying cinderblock.
-Sam site metal is crap. No details apart from rusting.
-MCV is plastic.
-The mirror on the Demo truck is concrete.
-Why is there mud on the missile submarine when it spends all its time in the water?
-The anchor on the destroyer looks like it crashed with something.

Now onto the beta(s):

-Too many VIS errors, I wonder if you even spend 10 seconds looking for VIS glitches in even the most obvious places!
-The missile on the V2 just stays there when it is fired, it should acutally go somewhere when it is shot.
-When a bullet hits metal it leaves a hole the same size as your hand.
-When facing a certain way in some places on some maps, the model of your character seems to go to a fewer poly one and looks crap!
-The ore next to the refinery looks like piles of dirt.
-People can walk through the gems. Change the collision settings so that people cant but vehicles can so that they dont get stuck.
-Tesla Coil needs a charging animation, such as sparks flying from coil to coil so that we can time things like we can with the Obelisk.
-Phase transport doesnt do enough damage to buildings.
-The ranger is a box on wheels.
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Aircraftkiller is currently offline  Aircraftkiller
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Which has what to do with how much Reborn sucks?

Pay attention, the M-60 was already fixed.

Flamethrower is what a real flamethrower looks like.

It doesn't fucking matter as to what time it was set in, it's in the 1960s which is more like the technology level of the 1980s, so computers that size are perfectly conceivable and implemented since Red Alert had them in at least one cutscene.

Apparently you never looked at the Turret because it has burn marks at the muzzle.

The Ore Truck looks like a dump truck that has a front end loader's attachment fitted on it.

The missile is made of metal, you're just too stupid to differentiate between concrete and metal.

MCV is crap, and hasn't been used in-game yet.

Wear some glasses when you look at the SAM Site because I can see a lot more than what you're obviously seeing.

It's not VIS, it's called vis. Vis is not an acronym. Some structures in Keep off the Grass had no exterior vis sectors and that's the only real place where a vis problem occured since the interiors were what your client was basing its visbility information on. The next release does not have this problem, unlike Reborn since we actually fix our issues.

W3D doesn't currently support the missile going anywhere, but to know this you'd have to pay attention...

The bullet decal size was fixed already.

That's called level of detail, all games use it and we already adjusted it in the next patch.

That's because the Ore by the Refineries ARE piles of dirt you idiot, how do you think the Ore is extracted from the ground? It has chunks of Ore in it but it's mostly dirt.

You can't make something only collidable for soldiers, physical affects both soldiers and vehicles. Walking through gems is about as much of a complaint as being able to walk through bushes, find a valid complaint...

Tesla Coil is getting a charging animation.

Phase Transport is being removed so it doesn't matter.

The Ranger was redone for the next patch, but again to see this you'd have to pay attention.

I think a "take your head out of your ass" picture fits well here...
CNC REBORN : BIG UPDATE [message #100033] Wed, 07 July 2004 01:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm talking about RenAlert, not reborn.

Good

Incorrect! It depends on the model of the flamethrower. Not all flamethrowers look like your shitty one!

Yes it does. You shouldnt have something which is ahead of its time in there. And I'm pretty sure in the 1980's they didnt have keyboards that are bigger than your torso.

http://dynamic6.gamespy.com/~renalert/forum/uploads/post-5-1085642446.jpg
Where are the burn marks on the muzzle?

So what if it has a loader? Its still a toy!

No its not! Its concrete!

Glad to see you agree with me.

The sam site is shit! It needs more detail like dirt and visible scratches where you can see shiny metal. Maybe you can get someone else to texture it because you cant!

I dont care if its an acronym or not, the point is that your maps have too many 'vis' errors that should be fixed.

Good

Good

Then how come there arent any chunks of ore in it at all? The only place that I ever see actual ore is in the ore field.

My Bad! Then make the gems small enough for vehicles to drive over and set physical. And of course you can walk through bushes!

Good

Good

I was basing it on the beta like you have been basing all your opinions on our beta. Even though you think our models such as our weapon models are shit, then look at yours, they suck! The flamethrower is still just a grey stick!

No! I like it here!
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ack

...you're just too stupid to...


Oh come on, that's a shit defense... When you can't defend you work, you only say 'your are stupid' or 'you are an idiot'... With that we think the same about you.

ack

Wear some glasses when you look at the SAM Site because I can see a lot more than what you're obviously seeing.


Like we can on our models... :rolleyes:
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