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Advanced Listings Favs [message #336995] Sun, 22 June 2008 21:52 Go to next message
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Most people I talk to only seem to play in a few different servers so I'd like for us to be able to create our own favorite servers list, and those servers would appear at the top of the server listings.
Re: Advanced Listings Favs [message #336996 is a reply to message #336995] Sun, 22 June 2008 21:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That is currently being worked on by the team.


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Re: Advanced Listings Favs [message #337002 is a reply to message #336996] Sun, 22 June 2008 22:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah, the a000 thing is annoying. Sad
Re: Advanced Listings Favs [message #337009 is a reply to message #337002] Sun, 22 June 2008 23:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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BlueThen wrote on Sun, 22 June 2008 22:43

Yeah, the a000 thing is annoying. Sad

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Re: Advanced Listings Favs [message #337015 is a reply to message #336995] Mon, 23 June 2008 01:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That a0000 crap needs to end. I hope that maybe they can shuffle up the browser list once someone loads up Renegade. Isn't fair to those who cannot get a a000 name because of the name sitters.

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Re: Advanced Listings Favs [message #337017 is a reply to message #337015] Mon, 23 June 2008 01:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lets not get into the a0000 debate, you'll get me going otherwise lol Razz

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Re: Advanced Listings Favs [message #337019 is a reply to message #337009] Mon, 23 June 2008 02:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SSnipe wrote on Mon, 23 June 2008 08:58

BlueThen wrote on Sun, 22 June 2008 22:43

Yeah, the a000 thing is annoying. Sad

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Re: Advanced Listings Favs [message #337023 is a reply to message #336995] Mon, 23 June 2008 03:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Randomize it by default.

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Re: Advanced Listings Favs [message #337026 is a reply to message #337023] Mon, 23 June 2008 03:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No.

We're not changing it anymore than scripts 3.4.4 did.

We don't like the idea of having max 2 players per server. There are simply too many servers. The ones at the top are generally pretty decent, so it isn't that bad that they are on the top.

The only thing we're changing is that now you'll have your favorites above a0000 nicks. Also full servers will be sorted farter down, and under the empty/not full servers, which will be located below the favorites.



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Re: Advanced Listings Favs [message #337032 is a reply to message #337017] Mon, 23 June 2008 04:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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How about ping?

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Re: Advanced Listings Favs [message #337033 is a reply to message #336995] Mon, 23 June 2008 04:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The sortinging rules are as follows, read from top to bottom:

Sort favourite servers on top
Sort grayed out servers on bottom
Sort passworded servers on bottom
Sort clan servers on bottom
Sort full servers on bottom
Sort descending by player count
Sort ascending by ping

This results in something like:
Favorite servers
<Other servers>
Full servers
Clan servers
Passworded servers
Grayed out servers

Where each group is sorted by ingame player count and then by ping.


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Re: Advanced Listings Favs [message #337037 is a reply to message #336995] Mon, 23 June 2008 07:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What if I want the clanwar servers on top by default?

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Re: Advanced Listings Favs [message #337039 is a reply to message #336995] Mon, 23 June 2008 07:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You can mark the clanwar servers as your favorites.


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Re: Advanced Listings Favs [message #337040 is a reply to message #336995] Mon, 23 June 2008 07:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Fair enough

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Re: Advanced Listings Favs [message #337041 is a reply to message #336995] Mon, 23 June 2008 07:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Or sort by the clan war flag. But afaik it's not used anymore anyway. Wink

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Re: Advanced Listings Favs [message #337044 is a reply to message #336995] Mon, 23 June 2008 08:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Exactly, it's all manual now

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Re: Advanced Listings Favs [message #337055 is a reply to message #336995] Mon, 23 June 2008 08:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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second that, the a00 got to end

Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 18 February 2011 23:50

I figured some people will still go LOLOLOL STARVING CATS LOOOOLZ UR A FAG or some dumb shit like that. Thanks for not disappointing! Smile

Re: Advanced Listings Favs [message #337129 is a reply to message #337023] Mon, 23 June 2008 16:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Chuck Norris wrote on Mon, 23 June 2008 06:10

Randomize it by default.


I know it wont be changed since the main people in this group of programmers have the a0000 names and they do not want to loose their spot. So I can put money down that this will never change. The people who are working on this project don't want to work on something that will drop their player count....


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Re: Advanced Listings Favs [message #337132 is a reply to message #337129] Mon, 23 June 2008 16:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Speedy059 wrote on Tue, 24 June 2008 01:11

Chuck Norris wrote on Mon, 23 June 2008 06:10

Randomize it by default.


I know it wont be changed since the main people in this group of programmers have the a0000 names and they do not want to loose their spot. So I can put money down that this will never change. The people who are working on this project don't want to work on something that will drop their player count....

Just think up a different way that is fair, without making it random (as that would make every server get 2 or less players..)


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Re: Advanced Listings Favs [message #337135 is a reply to message #337132] Mon, 23 June 2008 17:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Mon, 23 June 2008 19:50


Just think up a different way that is fair, without making it random (as that would make every server get 2 or less players..)


Smile You and I both know that anything that would split up those top a000 servers would NOT be fair in TT developers eye's. You made me chuckle when you said that.

BTW, I'm not saying this because I want to throw a few servers up...I just find it a little bit funny that all these improvements is being made except the server browser a000 issue. Everyone, except the owners of the a000 nicks, wants to see something different. I hope it's fair to say "everyone', if people disagree then I'll take that comment back.


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Re: Advanced Listings Favs [message #337138 is a reply to message #337135] Mon, 23 June 2008 18:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Speedy059 wrote on Tue, 24 June 2008 02:34

EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Mon, 23 June 2008 19:50


Just think up a different way that is fair, without making it random (as that would make every server get 2 or less players..)


Smile You and I both know that anything that would split up those top a000 servers would NOT be fair in TT developers eye's. You made me chuckle when you said that.

BTW, I'm not saying this because I want to throw a few servers up...I just find it a little bit funny that all these improvements is being made except the server browser a000 issue. Everyone, except the owners of the a000 nicks, wants to see something different. I hope it's fair to say "everyone', if people disagree then I'll take that comment back.

Seriously, if you come up with a good idea, it will get implemented.
But as you might know or not know, in the Serverowners subforum we've had this discussion over and over again.

CONCLUSION: It's indeed not fair.
IS THERE A FAIR SOLUTION? No, or at least none we know of.


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Re: Advanced Listings Favs [message #337150 is a reply to message #336995] Mon, 23 June 2008 19:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And just to clarify....it's not fair to shuffle up the servers? To me that makes no sense at all. If people enjoy those servers they will continue to play on them regardless if they are 1st up or dead last. I know that I'll continue to play on n00bstories/unrules server regardless of their rank in the server browser. I think it is completely fair to shuffle them up, why wouldn't it? It's a false belief to think that all the popular servers will drop down to 2 players because they aren't shown first in the server listings. People remember the servers they like to play on, and thus will find them (That's how it is for me).

I appreciate your concern and willingness to speak out about this EvilWhiteDragon!


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Re: Advanced Listings Favs [message #337156 is a reply to message #336995] Mon, 23 June 2008 22:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I honestly don't care how the servers are listed, it's my opinion that if people like the server they'll look for it.
On the other hand though, if I'm wrong and many people really do just join the first servers they see then that will split the server population and we'll end up with less players per server; I think everyone can agree that's not good if we want Renegade to last.

The only thing I actually like about having the list alphabetical is that we can group our servers so they appear above/below each other.

Having favorites at the top just makes things a little quicker for everyone to join specific servers without the need to direct connect.
Re: Advanced Listings Favs [message #337160 is a reply to message #336995] Mon, 23 June 2008 22:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh well...I would rather see them work on other things than this as I know the 2 servers I play on and this change/addition wouldn't benefit me as I don't run servers for Renegade.

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Re: Advanced Listings Favs [message #337180 is a reply to message #336995] Tue, 24 June 2008 00:03 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Have you considered what would happen if the list were "randomized" everytime? Do you think people would just browse through the random list, or would they sort it?

I believe most people would immediately sort the list, thus randomizing is pointless.
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