Marijuana legalization [message #164286] |
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Fabian
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Who thinks marijuana should be legalized? Decriminalized? Kept illegal? Who here has smoked pot?
Personally, I think pot should be legalized. It does less harm to your body than tobacco or alcohol, and yet those are legal. Areas where pot is legal have seen no increase in the use of harder drugs, showing evidence against pot being a "gateway drug." Also, if you can legally purchase pot, you put thousands of dangerous drug dealers out of business.
However, I believe you shouldn't be able to smoke (or be high) in public, just like laws pertaining to alcohol in public. You would also have to be 18 to purchase pot.
What do you guys think?
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Re: Marijuana legalization [message #164296 is a reply to message #164286] |
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Well, since I think all mind-altering drugs, including alcohol, are retarded AT BEST... maybe I'm not one to comment. The laid-back, don't care about shit attitude that people on pot express is actually QUITE dangerous. Besides, I used to know someone who killed a pizza driver while he was high on pot, and when the cops asked him why he did it, he replied "I don't know..." -- sure, he had other problems, but the non-caring attitude that he gained while on pot made him not care about the consequences of his actions. Now he has 20-25 years to think about it.
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Re: Marijuana legalization [message #164339 is a reply to message #164286] |
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warranto
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heh, the old proverb "Give an inch, they take a foot". It won't stay in the home, nothing ever does.
Besides, if you use that mentality, then you should be able to do everything and anything in the privacy of your own home. As well, anyone that happens to live there as well won't get a say. (Warning: lame commercial exploit) What happens if you get high, and decide to see if you're immortal, and grab the closest gun? Or, decide to see if someone else is immortal?
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Re: Marijuana legalization [message #164340 is a reply to message #164286] |
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Simple. Look at the possible motives for doing it.
When people take fatigue inducing drugs, generally the intent isn't to have a good time. It can be further implied that in most, not all cases of fatigue inducing drugs, it is to assist with sleep (this is referring to drugs *meant* exclusively for insomnia, not necessary drugs like Gravol where drowsiness is a repercussion of the ingrediants).
When people take marijuana, it is generally to have a good time. While in some cases it can be used as a painkiller, that is most definately not the reason the stoners I knew in high school did it. Compare it to alcohol. People use it to have a good time. That's fine. But sometimes, and more often then it should be, that involves someone doing something they definately should not be doing for the sake of the people around them. This is where the problems with marijuana come in. The question on the legalization, as far as I'm concerned, is why bother add another pinch of rat poison to the mix? If I had it my way, ethanol alcohol for pleasure would be quite illegal. I don't really care to have another death in the family as a result of someone under the influence-- and as such, I'd rather not add more influences to the system for the sake of the people around me.
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Re: Marijuana legalization [message #164393 is a reply to message #164286] |
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I completly disagree on this subject.
Marijuana is in fact much more harmful to the body than cigs because of the fact that you smoke it unfiltered. A cig's filter really does help to get rid of some of the harmful stuff.
Not only that, but unlike a cig, Marijuana is much more addictive. It also makes people forget reality, and it helps to make children pay less attention in class, or adults less attention in work. Not only would it cause people on jobs to have cravings for it, they're much more likely to act like jackasses until they get some.
Marijuana users are fucking annoying. You want to relax? Go find a passtime that's not addictive. You fucking people make me angry.
That's my take on the subject.
No. Seriously. No.
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Re: Marijuana legalization [message #164397 is a reply to message #164286] |
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mrpirate
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It's not fucking physically addictive you retard.
And while America may never legalize marijuana (land of the free), Canada may decriminalize it, which I think would be a good move.
EDIT: Forgot the word "physically." How embarrassing... and slightly ironic.
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Re: Marijuana legalization [message #164400 is a reply to message #164348] |
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Fabian
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Hydra wrote on Tue, 26 July 2005 23:33 | Just like slurred speech isn't common amongst drunkards.
From the drunkards' perspectives, at least.
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Nope. Not just like that. Alcohol actually is a direct cause of slurred speech. "Stoner talk" is a stereotypical way of talking that is not only exagerated and uncommon, it's not directly caused by pot.
Quote: | You are also missing a key point. You want to legalize pot? You want to buy it at a store. Where does the store get it from? You aren't removing the drug dealers, you are just making what they do legal. Who owns the big marijuana plantations in south america? Do you think those druglords are suddenly gonna say here Walmart, you get this one. Target you get this one. No, the drugs still are purchased through them. And we're talking big money moving now. Money used to purchase weapons and mercenaries to terrorise the population of central and south america. That region would probably be more dangerous than the gaza strip.
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Wrong, wrong, and wrong. If pot were to become legal in the United States, it would actually be produced here (or at the very least, by American companies). In fact, Marlboro has already copyrighted "Marlboro Greens." Why would a company want to rely on overpriced, dangerous drug lords that are inconveniently far south when they can legally grow their own supplies at fractions of the cost? Drug lords would be put out of business when huge, industrial companies have the capacity to mechanize the process because they would stand no chance of competing.
Quote: | The government isn't responsible for making you feel good. They protect you and yell at you for being a dumbass. If you want a hug get one from a shallow heartless girlfriend.
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The government isn't responsible for making us feel good, correct. However, I feel the goverment should give people the oppourtunity to do what they want so long as it doesn't harm or get in the way of others who don't want to take part. The government isn't responsible for making us feel good, yet they are fine with people "feeling good" with tobacco and alcohol.
Quote: | Marijuana is in fact much more harmful to the body than cigs because of the fact that you smoke it unfiltered. A cig's filter really does help to get rid of some of the harmful stuff.
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Wrong. Marijuana being sold on the streets doesn't have added chemicals and poisons. It's just a plant. As a scare tactic, anti-drug campaigns will tell you that dealers put chemicals like rat poison in their pot, but that's a rare occurance (most dealers want to keep their clients happy, and won't lace their pot with things that their clients don't want). Legalizing pot will allow the pot that goes into the market to be regulated by the FDA, giving people even more assurance that the pot being sold is pure.
Tobacco being "filtered" doesn't make up for the fact that tobacco is still far more harmful to your health than pot.
Marijuana much more addictive than tobacco? How uninformed ARE you?
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