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			| Is your WOL server crashing? [message #109891] | 
			Tue, 24 August 2004 16:32    | 
		 
		
			
				
				
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						almor999
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		I have had my 8 player server crash.  We have also had our bbfweb.com servers crash the same way.  All servers have BRenBot.
		
		
		
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			| Is your WOL server crashing? [message #109964] | 
			Tue, 24 August 2004 23:37    | 
		 
		
			
				
				
				
					
						  
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		Blazer 
I know for a fact some jackass is doing this... 
THESE CONSTANT CRASHES are happening mostly to WOL SERVERS, some ass has found a wol irc exploit that knocks servers offline.  
 
THis guy is from Europe, cuase of his ip is in the 12.xxx.xxx range, or he has botnets in that range. 
 
Experiement, run your server on gsa, i did this for my fan maps server, it ran fine all day. 
 
Also, I"m not running floodguard because that pos doesn't work at all.
		
		
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			| Is your WOL server crashing? [message #109999] | 
			Wed, 25 August 2004 06:21    | 
		 
		
			
				
				
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		| Blazer |   but are they hosted on servermatrix?
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No, one is hosted by me, the other ones I can check but I doubt bbfweb.com is a SM reseller.
		
		
		
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			| Is your WOL server crashing? [message #110363] | 
			Thu, 26 August 2004 11:09    | 
		 
		
			
				
				
				
					
						  
						Alkaline
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		heh then mgstpain don't know how to run a sniffer then :rolleyes:  
 
I know for a fact last night thier were 2 idiot hackers... 
1 UDP flooder... ping goes to 9999 people get kicked, you won't see a spike in your usage graphs either because a cable modem n00b can do it... 
 
the other one is some new crackhead that is using some kinda of a new exploit, it has a similiar effect to the less than 4 byte packet attack (which the un server patch stops)... the server just quits. 
 
I dunno if this new attack is wol IRC based or what, but it really sucks. Anyway tell mgstpain to look at the actuall data of the packets, normal renegade packets average 50-60 bytes in lengh. Attack packets are going to be differnt. I know because when my servers are getting hit I'm getting 2-9 bye packets at around 50-70 packets/second. Where as the average renegade client usually does about 10-15 packets/second at 55-45 bytes... Obviously you are getting attacked. 
 
Since its udp packet you know it can be spoofed easily.  :rolleyes:  
Best thing to do is to block all incoming UDP traffic except for players playing on the server... some kind of an app or something...:/
		
		
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			| Is your WOL server crashing? [message #110566] | 
			Thu, 26 August 2004 16:14    | 
		 
		
			
				
				
				
					
						  
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		They smelt like chocolate lime pecan pie.. that's how I knew the sniffer was running correctly, isn't that the right way?  :rolleyes:  
 
 
I'd be happy to share my ethereal dump with you, unless you think the packets are spoofing tcpdump in to not capturing them  :rolleyes:  
 
 :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  
 
Can I get some more rolleyes please? 
 
 :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  
 
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			| Is your WOL server crashing? [message #110570] | 
			Thu, 26 August 2004 16:18    | 
		 
		
			
				
				
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		My server is hosted by Servermatrix but there is no floodguard on it. 
 
Doesn't happen when my server is on GSA.
		
		
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			| Is your WOL server crashing? [message #110974] | 
			Fri, 27 August 2004 12:19    | 
		 
		
			
				
				
				
					
						  
						VenomSpdr
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		Im a server owner and my server has been crashing more than others I have noticed.  We use Server Matrix and we are running BRenBot.  I have installed all of the patches, they havent really helped at all.  Now i can usually get thru 2 maps instead of 1.  Anyhow this idiot is starting to take its toll on Renegade.  We as a community need to do sumthing about this.  Im not sure what to do yet but if we all keep each other informed maybe we can figure sumthin out.  One other thing, the only thing that seems to keep my server up longer is when i change the hostname to sumthin else new.  Of course then it eventually will start happening again.  And how come some servers seem to stay up a lot more than others?
		
		
		
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			| Is your WOL server crashing? [message #113302] | 
			Sun, 05 September 2004 23:20    | 
		 
		
			
				
				
				
					
						  
						Alkaline
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		Ok if you head over to non00bs.net you will find out just exactly what is happening... 
 
basically its IRC flood kick, wol has an exploit, the join server screen where it list all the poeple, (using some tools *relay* you can get the server to postback this info like 200-300/second, thus creating a flood and being kicked off WOL IRC) 
 
how stupid is wol, one learns everyday. 
 
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			| Is your WOL server crashing? [message #113365] | 
			Mon, 06 September 2004 12:28    | 
		 
		
			
				
				
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		This situation has hopefully been solved. Read my post in the Server Owners section to get full details.
		
		
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Network Administrator (2003 - ) 
 
DragonServ, Renegade's first IRC interface bot 
Creator and lead coder (2002 - ) 
 
Dragonade, Renegade's first server side modification 
Lead coder (2005 - )
		
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			| Is your WOL server crashing? [message #113407] | 
			Mon, 06 September 2004 17:58    | 
		 
		
			
				
				
				
					
						  
						Jessica [ERA]
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		Same Problem`s 
 
BTW look at the ping gdi site all 12000 or above  
 
 
 
[20:10] Total current bandwidth usage for players is 2074 kilobits per second 
[20:10] FMHunty crushed SoQDrink (GDI Engineer VS Stealth Black Hand) 
[20:10] sgamac: lol pistole couldnt rech^^ 
[20:10] Host: InGame Moderators: &SoQDrink +HERCULARIUM &FMHunty  
[20:10] Westwood Online mode active since 9/3/2004 - 14:06:34 PM 
[20:10] Gameplay in progress 
[20:10]      Map : C&C_Walls_Flying.mix 
[20:10]     Time : 0.20.46 
[20:10]      Fps : 56 
[20:10]      GDI : 14/30 players      16170 points 
[20:10]      NOD : 15/30 players      18965 points 
[20:10]  
[20:10] FMHunty: :Pd 
[20:10] [Team] QUADXXL: allways steel flag give good points 
[20:10] FMHunty is taking the dirt nap thanks to xontero (Sakura VS GDI Engineer) 
[20:10] triladar: laaaaaaaaag 
[20:11] HERCULARIUM: !ping 
[20:11] Connection broken to client. 2 
[20:11] Player IForeseeNoEmergency left the game 
[20:11]  
                     Name       Score     ---------------------Ping	 
 
[20:11]   1 reaper997      45    GDI	12903	 
[20:11]   3 jmren1989      2260  NOD	12552	 
[20:11]   4 vlos007        60    NOD	12764	 
[20:11]   5 SoQDrink       255   GDI	12837	 
[20:11]   6 Samicus        1520  GDI	0	 
[20:11]   7 triladar       1685  NOD	12297	 
[20:11]   8 xontero        2190  GDI	0	 
[20:11]  10 OmegaNova      120   NOD	12092	 
[20:11]  11 so11ibier      915   NOD	12921	 
[20:11]  12 eliraak        1390  GDI	12227	 
[20:11]  13 shiny101       10    GDI	0	 
[20:11]  14 {SOB}Heero_Coz 620   GDI	12732	 
[20:11]  15 HERCULARIUM    1250  GDI	12819	 
[20:11]  16 chief1978      80    NOD	0	 
[20:11]  17 QUADXXL        770   GDI	14022	 
[20:11]  18 gangta333      720   NOD	12874	 
[20:11]  19 gregverm       2625  NOD	12786	 
[20:11]  20 martin84       6350  NOD	12857	 
[20:11]  21 sgamac         660   NOD	12903	 
[20:11]  22 moonwalk9      610   NOD	12808	 
[20:11]  23 OxygenHole     0     NOD	12633	 
[20:11]  24 robomaxime     0     GDI	12164	 
[20:11]  25 reyney         810   NOD	12854	 
[20:11]  26 FMHunty        235   NOD	0	 
[20:11]  27 morgmich       2310  GDI	0	 
[20:11]  28 kaliber00      0     GDI	0	 
[20:11]  29 bluewater2002  265   GDI	12943	 
[20:11]  30 regnboge       0     GDI	12804	 
[20:11] Total current bandwidth usage for players is 3533 kilobits per second 
[20:11] Westwood Online mode active since 9/3/2004 - 14:06:34 PM 
[20:11] Gameplay in progress 
[20:11]      Map : C&C_Walls_Flying.mix 
[20:11]     Time : 0.20.23 
[20:11]      Fps : 39 
[20:11]      GDI : 14/30 players      16180 points 
[20:11]      NOD : 14/30 players      18965 points 
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[20:11] Connection broken to client. 17 
[20:11] Player QUADXXL left the game 
[20:11] Connection broken to client. 5 
[20:11] Player SoQDrink left the game 
[20:11] Connection broken to client. 11 
[20:11] Player so11ibier left the game 
[20:11] Connection broken to client. 1 
[20:11] Player reaper997 left the game 
[20:11] Connection broken to client. 3 
[20:11] Player jmren1989 left the game 
[20:11] Connection broken to client. 7 
[20:11] Player triladar left the game 
[20:11] Connection broken to client. 12 
[20:11] Player eliraak left the game 
[20:11] Connection broken to client. 21 
[20:11] Player sgamac left the game 
[20:11] Connection broken to client. 26 
[20:11] Player FMHunty left the game 
[20:11] Connection broken to client. 28 
[20:11] Player kaliber00 left the game 
[20:11] Connection broken to client. 13 
[20:11] Player shiny101 left the game 
[20:11] Connection broken to client. 15 
[20:11] Player HERCULARIUM left the game 
[20:11] Connection broken to client. 16 
[20:11] Player chief1978 left the game 
[20:11] Connection broken to client. 19 
[20:11] Player gregverm left the game 
[20:11] Connection broken to client. 22 
[20:11] Player moonwalk9 left the game 
[20:11] Connection broken to client. 25 
[20:11] Player reyney left the game 
[20:11] Connection broken to client. 27 
[20:11] Player morgmich left the game 
[20:11] Connection broken to client. 29 
[20:11] Player bluewater2002 left the game 
[20:11] Connection broken to client. 30 
[20:11] Player regnboge left the game 
[20:11] Connection broken to client. 4 
[20:11] Player vlos007 left the game 
[20:11] Connection broken to client. 18 
[20:11] Player gangta333 left the game 
[20:11] Connection broken to client. 20 
[20:11] Player martin84 left the game 
[20:11] Connection broken to client. 24 
[20:11] Player robomaxime left the game 
[20:11] Connection broken to client. 6 
[20:11] Player Samicus left the game 
[20:11] Connection broken to client. 10 
[20:11] Player OmegaNova left the game 
[20:11] Connection broken to client. 14 
[20:11] Player {SOB}Heero_Coz left the game
		
		
		
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			| Is your WOL server crashing? [message #115248] | 
			Fri, 17 September 2004 17:54    | 
		 
		
			
				
				
				
					
						  
						VenomSpdr
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		I am the owner of xphaze and our server lost WOL connection 2 times tonite, can i please have access to the owners section to obtain the info on how to stop this.  My WOL nick is GrnGobln0
		
		
		
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