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SC Mod [message #86383] Sun, 09 May 2004 19:27 Go to next message
SuperFlyingEngi is currently offline  SuperFlyingEngi
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Someone should make a TC Starcraft mod for Renegade.

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SC Mod [message #86385] Sun, 09 May 2004 19:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
NeoX is currently offline  NeoX
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Working on it . Im 90% done it.
SC Mod [message #86426] Mon, 10 May 2004 04:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
PsycoArmy is currently offline  PsycoArmy
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prove it Smile

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SC Mod [message #86429] Mon, 10 May 2004 05:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Spice
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NeoX

Working on it . Im 90% done it.


*Cough* Bullshit *Cough* Razz


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SC Mod [message #86452] Mon, 10 May 2004 09:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oblivion165 is currently offline  Oblivion165
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Its bullshit, he hasnt asked for help, said anything or showed any work, and he better not just say "oh i was kidding. heheheh" or some shit like that.

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SC Mod [message #86512] Mon, 10 May 2004 13:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
htmlgod is currently offline  htmlgod
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Actually in blizzard's terms of use for starcraft they say you may not

Quote:

(ii) copy, photocopy, reproduce, translate, reverse engineer, modify, disassemble, or de-compile in whole or in part...


their software. So yeah.


Check out http://newhope.conquergaming.com to see the progress of the STARWARS mod for Renegade.

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SC Mod [message #86517] Mon, 10 May 2004 13:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
boma57 is currently offline  boma57
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Technically you're not copying, photocopying, reproducing, translating, reverse engineering, modifying, disassembling, or de-compiling the software at all.

Just the concept. Razz

But yeah, they'd probably get their knickers in a twist if Renegade wasn't such an uninfluential game. As it stands though, it'd probably just fly right under the radar.
SC Mod [message #86537] Mon, 10 May 2004 14:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I dont think they would care anyway, that games old and sucked when it was out. It cost 9.99 now, theve moved on......its old news.....


the more i write the more i think renegade.......


but they support modding, and renegade doesnt suck


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SC Mod [message #86545] Mon, 10 May 2004 14:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Slicer_238 is currently offline  Slicer_238
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NeoX if yo ureally are making one lemme try it out. Since the last time this was brought up by some guy with Fox in his name I wanted a SC mod. He has the sweetest marine model as well.

May Trey rest in forever bliss and happiness.
SC Mod [message #86550] Mon, 10 May 2004 14:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mad Ivan is currently offline  Mad Ivan
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One Ren->SC mod already got canned by Blizzard, IIRC.You are copying THEIR IDEAS, that was the violation i think...

SC Mod [message #86556] Mon, 10 May 2004 14:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EXdeath7

NeoX

Working on it . Im 90% done it.


*Cough* Bullshit *Cough* Razz


Yea exactly It would be kool but on a better engine no offence i dont think its worth a new mod teams time to enter now...
SC Mod [message #86581] Mon, 10 May 2004 15:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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NeoX

EXdeath7

NeoX

Working on it . Im 90% done it.


*Cough* Bullshit *Cough* Razz


Yea exactly It would be kool but on a better engine no offence i dont think its worth a new mod teams time to enter now...


Heh if you can get Blizzard to say yes for a mod id gladley help out on a better game engine. Confused The blizzard and yes part might not go to well


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SC Mod [message #86624] Mon, 10 May 2004 19:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
NeoX is currently offline  NeoX
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Well heres a plan Give them the FINGER just steal the games concept and dont use and copywrited names of character and they cant to fuck all by concept i mean the way it plays.
SC Mod [message #86651] Mon, 10 May 2004 21:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
icedog90 is currently offline  icedog90
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Sadly, I can barely understand most of you. Please learn some english skills.
SC Mod [message #86774] Tue, 11 May 2004 17:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SuperFlyingEngi is currently offline  SuperFlyingEngi
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Whut yuu implore by "Englise skeelz" now hurry?

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)

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SC Mod [message #86943] Wed, 12 May 2004 12:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mad Ivan is currently offline  Mad Ivan
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Dood, continue to talk foolish and you will get lesser attention from other people in the future.

Icedog is right.I couldnt understand any shit of what you guys replied.I know i aint the best speller arround here but at least try to make some sense.What the hell does that mean:

Quote:

Heh if you can get Blizzard to say yes for a mod id gladley help out on a better game engine. The blizzard and yes part might not go to well


I can follow you untill "mod id" and then i lost the idea behind the post.

Back on topic:
Its hard really to explain why Blizzard are sending warnings about legal actions to people that start mods on Game Engines, other then Blizzard`s.I can only renember that so far 2 Mods For Ren Got Canned (REN->SC), one for Serious Sam got canned (SS->SC), one for RA2 got canned (RA2->SC).
The only two *SOMETHING*->SC mods living are WC3:TFT->SC and Generals:Zero Hour->SC.

The first is living WITH the blessing of Blizzard (yes, e-mail was sent to blizzard and they approved the project, iirc) and surprisingly the second is also alive, perhaps because Blizzard dont know that it exists

The first Ren->SC mod got a threat and turned in some Human(Terran)/Elder(protoss)/Scourge(Zerg) shit, but it didnt go nowhere, IIRC.

EDIT:A SC2 Game by fans was also being developed, a 3D RTS.Guess what happened Razz


SC Mod [message #87069] Wed, 12 May 2004 20:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Blizzard is VERY protective of their IP.
Even though Starcraft is available for next to nothing right now, its still VERY popular (especially in places like Korea)
Plus, at some point, blizzard are going to release a Starcraft 2 (why they havent already done Warcraft III engine -> Starcraft 2 is beoynd me, it would probobly be one of the hottest games of all time) and having "starcraft" mods for other games (e.g. Starcraft mods for Renegade, Generals, RA2 etc) would probobly hurt sales of Starcraft 2.

Permission was probobly given for the WC3->SC mod because it is a mod to another blizzard game.


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SC Mod [message #87089] Wed, 12 May 2004 22:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mad Ivan is currently offline  Mad Ivan
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Quote:

Permission was probobly given for the WC3->SC mod because it is a mod to another blizzard game.


My point exactly.

Quote:

having "starcraft" mods for other games (e.g. Starcraft mods for Renegade, Generals, RA2 etc) would probobly hurt sales of Starcraft 2.


Yes, that ,indeed, might be it.

So there you have it - no mods to SC.


SC Mod [message #88031] Sun, 16 May 2004 20:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Slicer_238 is currently offline  Slicer_238
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Well I found two free Terran marine models plus the one in WC3 which I need to figure out how to extract. Now only if I can find someone with spare time to convert one of these into Renegade as a character replacement model

May Trey rest in forever bliss and happiness.
SC Mod [message #88047] Mon, 17 May 2004 00:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mad Ivan is currently offline  Mad Ivan
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i have all Marine, Protoss and Zerg models (low polycount) from the game project that was canceled Razz

SC Mod [message #88049] Mon, 17 May 2004 00:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Do you mind posting picturs of those models. Smile

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SC Mod [message #88052] Mon, 17 May 2004 01:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mad Ivan is currently offline  Mad Ivan
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they are arround 10-15 polys each and noone made skins.They look horrible Razz

SC Mod [message #88129] Mon, 17 May 2004 12:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Slicer_238 is currently offline  Slicer_238
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Mad Ivan

i have all Marine, Protoss and Zerg models (low polycount) from the game project that was canceled Razz


Do you mean the one that the Fox person was making back in the day?


May Trey rest in forever bliss and happiness.
SC Mod [message #88130] Mon, 17 May 2004 12:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I made a few buildings, but I didn't get any help on the mod, so I gave up...if I can find the file, I could post a ss... Confused

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SC Mod [message #88140] Mon, 17 May 2004 13:23 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Mad Ivan is currently offline  Mad Ivan
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a fan-made StarCraft 3D RTS Game...they had much of the engine and a level editor done i think.I think it was called StarCraft3D...

I know, i think too much.I found this quote from a SC site backup i have:
Quote:

devoted once to building a 3D version of StarCraft, this
project was recently killed by Blizzard for copyright reasons.


Show some screenies Wink

Oh and for the Generals mod:
http://mods.moddb.com/images/mods/gallery/12468img.jpg
http://mods.moddb.com/1530/
Thought i am expecting the "Bad News" announcement to pop up any second Razz


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