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So, There I Was... [message #70605] Mon, 08 March 2004 15:59 Go to next message
Dante
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So, here i am, sitting here pondering all the events of the last couple of years.

Almost 2 years to this date, i picked up a copy of Renegade, played the hell out of it in Skirmish mode with my bots on 56k until i got a Cable connection. Since then, i have joined staff of several web sites (http://www.unleashed.ws, http://www.n00bstories.com, http://www.planetcnc.com, http://www.renevo.com) and news poster on several others. I never really got into the groove of working for most of the sites, as i have i nthe past had a hard time saying no.

So here i sit, as i say, pondering things to be and things done, and have come to the realization. I don't like being in this community any more then having an ingrown hair on my ballz. There are some people that make it interesting, and i do enjoy chatting with, but i don't think this is my "thing" to continue in this Renegade community that i have somehow been pushed to the top of. I never considered myself a community leader, i never wanted the "titles" and "credit" i have been given, i just wanted to mess around with a game engine and mod it, testing my own skills in programming, modeling (ok, that didn't turn out toooo well), and other stuff. To this date i have created several mods, several utilities, several application, and even several unreleased maps that have seen there glory times, and there bad times, and even the recycle bin.

Once PlanetSide came out, and i played a game where teamwork was heavy, and the gameplay was entertaining, i realised how much i disliked the Renegade Gameplay, even at that time i tried changing things in the engine and maps to make it more like how i wanted to play, only to find out that no matter how much you dress a monkey up like a human, its still a monkey...

Now that i have a decent system capable of running Planetside, and other games, i just don't have any interest in Renegade whats so ever, other then the story. The game engine has seen its day, and the MP is seeing its reign of cheaters (big turnoff). Last night i uninstalled Renegade, and didnt' even feel bad about it...

Then there is this, RenGuard, not really my best conceptions of what an anti-cheat would be, but it started in a good direction, then slowly but surely, as with most projects in that "community" it started to dwindle from a realization to a big talk of greater things and total control. Im not into that type of stuff, judging from some of the things i have witnessed within the chats from #renguard & #bh-studios on irc.n00bstories.com, i can't find myself to even want to stay associated with those images of "leadership" and "development process's".

I wish those teams tons of luck, and will probably get the shit treatment from most of them whilest i start retiring most of my Renegade related projects to the recycle bin, but hey, shit happens right?

It all comes down to personal taste and contentment, i don't really like the community, the game, or some of the internal happenings anymore, and i am a grownup, and don't have to be in it.

There have been a lot of good players and people in this community that i personally want to thank for the time & fun i had with them.

TreyD, top most on my list, and may he rest in peace
StoneRook, if you don't know him, or talk to him, you are seriously missing out, just a great guy
Scorpio9a, always fun to battle over ownage with
msgtpain, the guy is an ace
patonite, good chap
Ubertek, taught me alot, and very helpful
MonkeyPhonic, this guy rocks, and i have NO clue where he came from, but tahnks to him, a lot of things are now possible with other mods.
The RenAlert Crew, good guys, and definately have there head in the right direction.
Blazer, been fun working on stuff with ya, and the chats are always fun
Crimson, gotta love the stuff
n00bstories crew, you know who they are...
Dominion Guild, you guys rock(ed).
Aircraftkiller, i hope one day this kid can get past his ego and attitude, and focus that on attention to detail, if he could, i think he could be a good modeler and level designer
Silent_Kane, A.D.D. extrodinaire, but still a good kid
Xtreme2Matt, good guy, fun to chat with
Bumpaneer, good guy, and definately helpful
England, good guy
npsmith82, good programmer and good guy
jonwil, "first, next... finally.." guy is a god with numbering priorities Razz, but still a good guy
General Havoc, Try_Lee, K9Trooper, Madtone, always there to lend a helping hand, great people and definately worth knowing
snipesimo, been extremely helpful with BR.Net and misc stuff.
destructv, his continuing efforts with BR.Net are great
Kirby098, this guys is good people, and always been supportive
SeaMan, And the rest of the unleashed crew big thumbs up to you guys
NeoSaber, this guy might have been one of the few to stretch the limits of the engine with me
YSLMuffins, a chick modder, thats just kewl


Then there are the old school Ren modders that have come and gone, you are all on my list, just cause i didn't mention you, doesn't mean i forgot about you, thanks to you all.

Literally i could go on all day with the people i respect and have worked with, but i just mostly wanted to point out those individuals, as they where inspiration, and great chat partners along the road.


But without further adu, i salute the Renegade community, and retire from it with great smiles and fond memories.






WAIT, im not going anywhere, just no more Ren for me.


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So, There I Was... [message #70606] Mon, 08 March 2004 16:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
England is currently offline  England
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dude, you called me a good guy Very Happy

You've ruined my "he is a complete cunt" reputation.

Damn you!


In the end it doesn't matter if you are who you say you are. You will still mean nothing to me.

When i have kids, everytime i drive past a fast food restaurant, im gonna punch my kid in the face, then they'll never wanna come..
So, There I Was... [message #70607] Mon, 08 March 2004 16:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote:


WAIT, im not going anywhere, just no more Ren for me.


Welcome to the club. Razz
So, There I Was... [message #70611] Mon, 08 March 2004 16:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Imdgr8one is currently offline  Imdgr8one
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Colonel

*slautes*
to the greatest renegade contributor there is.
I hold him and ACK in the same respect level. Without them and blazer/crimmy, we would not be here today, playign the game I love.


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So, There I Was... [message #70614] Mon, 08 March 2004 16:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Imdgr8one

*slautes*
to the greatest renegade contributor there is.
I hold him and ACK in the same respect level. Without them and blazer/crimmy, we would not be here today, playign the game I love.


What he said, without Crimson,Blazer,Ack and yourself the community wouldnt be what it is today, thanx for all the programs you've done for us all, good luck on what ever awaits you in the future.

P.S so you wont be writting anymore programs for the community?


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So, There I Was... [message #70619] Mon, 08 March 2004 16:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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cowmisfit


P.S so you wont be writting anymore programs for the community?



nope, im done


So, There I Was... [message #70620] Mon, 08 March 2004 16:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for all your work on Renalert etc. I never knew you but in long time I've been lurking these forums I've seen you do a lot of amazing things with the engine.

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So, There I Was... [message #70624] Mon, 08 March 2004 16:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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All I can say Dante, is you have no idea how much respect you have earned from me. Though it might not mean anything to you, I truely respect you as a leader of this community. Though you may not like it, you are and you earned it ;P

You may look at yourself as someone who was testing his skills, but imagine what things would be like without you. Just kicking someone from in-game would be an endless chore without BR .Net. On behalf of myself, I would like to say thanks for everything.
So, There I Was... [message #70625] Mon, 08 March 2004 16:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i figure i make a fairly passable human
So, There I Was... [message #70627] Mon, 08 March 2004 16:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dante

cowmisfit


P.S so you wont be writting anymore programs for the community?



nope, im done


darn, good luck dude.


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So, There I Was... [message #70631] Mon, 08 March 2004 17:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gonan miss ya man but hey I can still talk to you in small moments like I do on IRC. =p

May Trey rest in forever bliss and happiness.
So, There I Was... [message #70632] Mon, 08 March 2004 17:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Good luck with future endeavors! You're a good man Dante. Smile

WHATEVER, FAGGOT
So, There I Was... [message #70633] Mon, 08 March 2004 17:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Shame to see you drop your projects and leave future devlopments, but if you've had enough.. then you know its time to go out an find something that will fuel that need to experiment and enjoy.

Its been great chatting to you about Ren related things, we had good long chats not just about Ren but also about life and general work crap.

I know your not actually gone, but that part of you is.

Your a great guy and you've really changed the way we play, even if you don't realise it. You've made a difference.

Thanks man!
So, There I Was... [message #70634] Mon, 08 March 2004 17:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What happens now to the blackhand-studios legal documentation which you filed? Is it in the "recycle bin" too now?
So, There I Was... [message #70637] Mon, 08 March 2004 17:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dante
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for those that didn't know...


Renegade Evolutions, also known as RenEvo, will not shutdown, as per the defintion found on the home page http://www.renevo.com



ren·e·gade (n.)
One who rejects a religion, cause, allegiance, or group for another; a deserter.
An outlaw; a rebel.
ev·o·lu·tion (n.)
A process in which something passes by degrees to a more advanced or mature stage.
The sequence of events involved in the evolutionary development of a species or taxonomic group of organisms.


So, There I Was... [message #70639] Mon, 08 March 2004 17:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That doesn't answer my question.
So, There I Was... [message #70640] Mon, 08 March 2004 17:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dante
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Dante

cowmisfit


P.S so you wont be writting anymore programs for the community?



nope, im done


So, There I Was... [message #70646] Mon, 08 March 2004 17:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, good luck to what ever you do. It's good that they've been some dedicated people in this communitity that help keep it going. I should've done a bit more modding, but I'm just too lazy or have got to much other stuff to think about. Only released two crap maps so far but I'm still going... slowly.

Anyway, have fun with whatever you do.
So, There I Was... [message #70649] Mon, 08 March 2004 17:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, you have contributed a lot to the community but it is sad to see you go. You are a good person, and your programs are some of the best I have seen.

It's a shame to see you go. Best of luck to you. :thumbsup:

P.S. Although you may not be writing any more programs, will you still help out those who need assistance with their programming?


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So, There I Was... [message #70650] Mon, 08 March 2004 17:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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All I can say Dante, is you have no idea how much respect you have earned from me. Though it might not mean anything to you, I truely respect you as a leader of this community. Though you may not like it, you are and you earned it ;P

You may look at yourself as someone who was testing his skills, but imagine what things would be like without you. Just kicking someone from in-game would be an endless chore without BR .Net. On behalf of myself, I would like to say thanks for everything.


It can't be put any better than that.


Though i may not have gotten to know you very good, you always rocked in my books, Dante.


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So, There I Was... [message #70657] Mon, 08 March 2004 18:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Your choice. I stand behind you on it.

Stopped playing Renegade a few months ago. Found much more enjoyable things other than point games that involve little teamwork.
So, There I Was... [message #70666] Mon, 08 March 2004 18:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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*salutes*

(does this mean the end of my annoying questions on text cinematics over AIM to you? :oops: )

Your a good man, wish you the best.


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So, There I Was... [message #70668] Mon, 08 March 2004 19:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for everything you have done. Great job.

I myself to have stopped playing Renegade, its been a long long time. I did play Planetside for quite a while, no clue why anyone would want to keep playing that game though. The teamwork was great, Ill give you that, but the game itself was terrible IMO.

Anyways I hope to still see you posting around here, you have my respect! Good day Smile
So, There I Was... [message #70680] Mon, 08 March 2004 20:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I owe you one Dante, half the things i've done in this community couldn't have been done without you.

A big thumbs-up for ya mate, thanks for the good times.

Take care.
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So, There I Was... [message #70692] Mon, 08 March 2004 20:50 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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The things you have done over and over have proved their worth and your own worth to us. What did you accomplished cannot and will not be forgotten. I am reminded every day of the little differences that one can make as I sign into the RenEvo forums learn what I can about BR which has been under my eye the second I laid eyes on it. As I learned more I felt only more respect for what goes on behind the scenes. Your choice is a fair one that everyone will once make and with it will bring more happiness to another bright gaming community. We salute you.
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