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something I'm thinking of doing. Maybe more a topic for the tactics and strategies section, but meh.

Here's my idea... Once a week, I (or a partner in crime *cough* tunaman) would observe a clanmatch or community match between some top players, and I'd take the role of a "commentator", as if it were a sport... giving strategic analysis, saying why the players are doing what they're doing...

might be useful for players to make observations and improve their knowledge of strategy by seeing the "pros" in action, as well as being kinda fun.


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Re: Renegade Shoutcasts / Replay of the Week [message #293514 is a reply to message #293513] Mon, 29 October 2007 10:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'll just quote myself from cw.cc forums:

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Two people should watch, both teams can be spectated bore easily


Re: Renegade Shoutcasts / Replay of the Week [message #293516 is a reply to message #293514] Mon, 29 October 2007 10:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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that would require copypasting rather than simply one smooth continuous fraps... either that or two separate shoutcasts from the same game.

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Re: Renegade Shoutcasts / Replay of the Week [message #293527 is a reply to message #293513] Mon, 29 October 2007 11:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This would work if we had a RenHawk type program that we could distribute the replay in.


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Re: Renegade Shoutcasts / Replay of the Week [message #293534 is a reply to message #293516] Mon, 29 October 2007 11:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Spoony wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 18:52

that would require copypasting rather than simply one smooth continuous fraps... either that or two separate shoutcasts from the same game.

Well, that's not that hard really, that's just a matter whether you are willing to mix it up later...


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CarrierII wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 13:22

This would work if we had a RenHawk type program that we could distribute the replay in.


spectate + fraps + youtube


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Re: Renegade Shoutcasts / Replay of the Week [message #293552 is a reply to message #293544] Mon, 29 October 2007 13:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Spoony wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 20:45

CarrierII wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 13:22

This would work if we had a RenHawk type program that we could distribute the replay in.


spectate + fraps + youtube

Spectate + Fraps + VirtualDub&Xvid codec + youtube right? Also, youtube quality sox, perhaps put it on a couple of servers and spread it by torrent? BlackIntel could host the torrent, and perhaps together with noobstories/bhs?


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Re: Renegade Shoutcasts / Replay of the Week [message #293553 is a reply to message #293552] Mon, 29 October 2007 13:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 15:03

Spoony wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 20:45

CarrierII wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 13:22

This would work if we had a RenHawk type program that we could distribute the replay in.


spectate + fraps + youtube

Spectate + Fraps + VirtualDub&Xvid codec + youtube right? Also, youtube quality sox, perhaps put it on a couple of servers and spread it by torrent? BlackIntel could host the torrent, and perhaps together with noobstories/bhs?

No! Not torrent! I hate them... they take 5 fucking days just to download a small program.
Re: Renegade Shoutcasts / Replay of the Week [message #293557 is a reply to message #293513] Mon, 29 October 2007 13:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Seems like you dont have portforwarding?
Re: Renegade Shoutcasts / Replay of the Week [message #293560 is a reply to message #293553] Mon, 29 October 2007 13:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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BlueThen wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 20:04

EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 15:03

Spoony wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 20:45

CarrierII wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 13:22

This would work if we had a RenHawk type program that we could distribute the replay in.


spectate + fraps + youtube

Spectate + Fraps + VirtualDub&Xvid codec + youtube right? Also, youtube quality sox, perhaps put it on a couple of servers and spread it by torrent? BlackIntel could host the torrent, and perhaps together with noobstories/bhs?

No! Not torrent! I hate them... they take 5 fucking days just to download a small program.


Torrents work properly if people learn to give as well as take.


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Re: Renegade Shoutcasts / Replay of the Week [message #293562 is a reply to message #293560] Mon, 29 October 2007 13:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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CarrierII wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 15:23

BlueThen wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 20:04

EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 15:03

Spoony wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 20:45

CarrierII wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 13:22

This would work if we had a RenHawk type program that we could distribute the replay in.


spectate + fraps + youtube

Spectate + Fraps + VirtualDub&Xvid codec + youtube right? Also, youtube quality sox, perhaps put it on a couple of servers and spread it by torrent? BlackIntel could host the torrent, and perhaps together with noobstories/bhs?

No! Not torrent! I hate them... they take 5 fucking days just to download a small program.


Torrents work properly if people learn to give as well as take.


I'd assume that this would slow down my connection.
Re: Renegade Shoutcasts / Replay of the Week [message #293565 is a reply to message #293513] Mon, 29 October 2007 13:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It is highly unlikely that you are constantly using every single byte of your bandwith, up as well as down.



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Re: Renegade Shoutcasts / Replay of the Week [message #293567 is a reply to message #293562] Mon, 29 October 2007 13:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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BlueThen wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 14:26

CarrierII wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 15:23

BlueThen wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 20:04

EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 15:03

Spoony wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 20:45

CarrierII wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 13:22

This would work if we had a RenHawk type program that we could distribute the replay in.


spectate + fraps + youtube

Spectate + Fraps + VirtualDub&Xvid codec + youtube right? Also, youtube quality sox, perhaps put it on a couple of servers and spread it by torrent? BlackIntel could host the torrent, and perhaps together with noobstories/bhs?

No! Not torrent! I hate them... they take 5 fucking days just to download a small program.


Torrents work properly if people learn to give as well as take.


I'd assume that this would slow down my connection.


Yes, As most BitTorrent clients steal your Internet connection while the client is running.

Also, We need 2 other guys who bet on who wins. Wink


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Re: Renegade Shoutcasts / Replay of the Week [message #293568 is a reply to message #293513] Mon, 29 October 2007 13:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, As most BitTorrent clients steal your Internet connection while the client is running.

STEAL your bandwith? seems like you havent understood the concept of torrents.

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BlueThen wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 21:04

EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 15:03

Spoony wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 20:45

CarrierII wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 13:22

This would work if we had a RenHawk type program that we could distribute the replay in.


spectate + fraps + youtube

Spectate + Fraps + VirtualDub&Xvid codec + youtube right? Also, youtube quality sox, perhaps put it on a couple of servers and spread it by torrent? BlackIntel could host the torrent, and perhaps together with noobstories/bhs?

No! Not torrent! I hate them... they take 5 fucking days just to download a small program.

That's because you're only using illegal torrents.
In this case there would be 2 or 3 servers serving the torrent, + everyone that is social and leaves the torrent shared.
This saves bandwidth for the servers, and makes faster dowlaoding possible.


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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 20:03

Spoony wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 20:45

CarrierII wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 13:22

This would work if we had a RenHawk type program that we could distribute the replay in.


spectate + fraps + youtube

Spectate + Fraps + VirtualDub&Xvid codec + youtube right? Also, youtube quality sox, perhaps put it on a couple of servers and spread it by torrent? BlackIntel could host the torrent, and perhaps together with noobstories/bhs?


I agree but replace XviD codec with h.264/x264. Higher quality.


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Caveman wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 22:15

EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 20:03

Spoony wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 20:45

CarrierII wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 13:22

This would work if we had a RenHawk type program that we could distribute the replay in.


spectate + fraps + youtube

Spectate + Fraps + VirtualDub&Xvid codec + youtube right? Also, youtube quality sox, perhaps put it on a couple of servers and spread it by torrent? BlackIntel could host the torrent, and perhaps together with noobstories/bhs?


I agree but replace XviD codec with h.264/x264. Higher quality.

Hmm, true, but also larger size right? Also, I think the Xvid codec is more widely used, so less compatibility issues.


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Re: Renegade Shoutcasts / Replay of the Week [message #293593 is a reply to message #293513] Mon, 29 October 2007 15:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've seen decent quality stuff on YouTube, I guess it depends upon how you encode it. A "BattleCast" could be interesting.
Re: Renegade Shoutcasts / Replay of the Week [message #293601 is a reply to message #293513] Mon, 29 October 2007 15:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Torrent isn't way to go... Too many new kids would ask too many easy questions etc, the techical also to setup a dedi tracker for this relay idea (tho a good one), would make up too much of the time. Maybe not youtube, but another video sharing shit, with no file size limit/time limit, would best suit this idea.

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Well, I find youtube quality to totally suck most of the time so...
And the torrents is so that you can have reasonably length movies without eating all bandwidth from the serverowner..


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Re: Renegade Shoutcasts / Replay of the Week [message #293605 is a reply to message #293513] Mon, 29 October 2007 15:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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1 cw=30min. Thats not lengthy at all. 30min, 30fps, half size, converted into 85% quality .wmv file, then recoded would be 100-150mb max. I suggest even Google video, because of no file size, but it distorts the quality a little too much. Best quality, no file size? www.stage6.com

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trooprm02 wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 23:48

1 cw=30min. Thats not lengthy at all. 30min, 30fps, half size, converted into 85% quality .wmv file, then recoded would be 100-150mb max. I suggest even Google video, because of no file size, but it distorts the quality a little too much. Best quality, no file size? www.stage6.com

100-150 MB per CW not much in storage, surely, but in data.
Say that 100 people decide they want the file, that would get 1 server 150*100=15 GB on data. Doable, no doubt, but still, quite a lot if there will be frequent battlecasts.

Another thing, we should use an open format to encode it in I say.
Probably less hassle when you want to edit it etc.

Besides, a CW is not just 1 round, more like 3. That would get to 45 GB on traffic....

Edit:
Got a 50 fps 20 min 840*525 Xvid movie in decent quality here, which is 380 MB.
So in the same format it would be 380/20*30=570MB for 30 minutes.
3 rounds so 570*3=1710 MB
And 100 people downloading it:
100*1710=171000 MB ~ 171 GB
That's no fun Whats That


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Ok, I guess I could even record it. I know how to use the !spec stuff, and I know how to get this distribution thing done. People complaining no one seeds is not the way to go. Free online video site, with high quality .avi files (Divx) is. No worrying about bandwidth issues, and ofcourse, no need to explain what BT is, consider this, 50% of us I'd say use BT, BUT 90% of us have a divx codec. This will work Whats That

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If Crimson agrees, then why not just make a stream on renegadecommunity.com? I suppose that host has the necessary bandwith to keep it up?

Anyway, as said in your other topic: I really like this idea Smile.


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trooprm02 wrote on Tue, 30 October 2007 00:51

Ok, I guess I could even record it. I know how to use the !spec stuff, and I know how to get this distribution thing done. People complaining no one seeds is not the way to go. Free online video site, with high quality .avi files (Divx) is. No worrying about bandwidth issues, and ofcourse, no need to explain what BT is, consider this, 50% of us I'd say use BT, BUT 90% of us have a divx codec. This will work Whats That

Free sites will always have the tendency to suck one way or another, jsut because the fact that they need to make money.


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