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How come I got a 8800 and still cant get a good FPS?? [message #254576] Wed, 18 April 2007 13:18 Go to next message
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In renegade I never can get over 60-70 FPS.

AMD 2.6GHz Dual Core 5200+
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with that I should get like 200!!??

WTF? Angry



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Re: How come I got a 8800 and still cant get a good FPS?? [message #254580 is a reply to message #254576] Wed, 18 April 2007 13:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm sure this was in another topic somewhere.

It's not because of the card, it's because of the monitor. Its refresh rate is limited to 60-70Hz which in turn limits the graphics cards output to 60-70 FPS. It's not your machine, it's your monitor.

I would recommend not messing about with the refresh rate since i predict that monitor cost alot of money and wouldn't be nice blowing up in your face would it?
Re: How come I got a 8800 and still cant get a good FPS?? [message #254582 is a reply to message #254576] Wed, 18 April 2007 13:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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depends what monitor you got, if its an lcd then you should not bring it any higher then 70-80fps. in any case i dont see much of a difference between 60-70 and 80-90 or more... really it will have almost no impact on your gameplay as long as it is higher than 60fps you shouldnt notice a difference.
Re: How come I got a 8800 and still cant get a good FPS?? [message #254584 is a reply to message #254576] Wed, 18 April 2007 13:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Increasing the refresh rate over what your monitor can support will perminently damage your graphics card, monitor or both, rendering them useless.

Most LCD monitors support up-to 75Hz, whereas CRT (the big ones) support up to 80Hz.
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You can't see the diffeence anyway, so it doesn't matter.

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Re: How come I got a 8800 and still cant get a good FPS?? [message #254604 is a reply to message #254576] Wed, 18 April 2007 14:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: How come I got a 8800 and still cant get a good FPS?? [message #254615 is a reply to message #254604] Wed, 18 April 2007 15:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't see why people moan/boast about there FPS.

60 FPS is what the average human eye can see (Why do you think monitor makers don't make monitors that can go like 200Hz?) .

70-75FPS is pushing it.

People saying oh look I have 100+ FPS and think they're getting uber cool shit are just stupid.

If you have a stable 60-75FPS you aren't going to tell the difference of the gameplay from having a stable 100FPS.

But anyway, if you REALLY want to have a higher FPS theres two ways.

1) Lower your resolution (Desktop resolution) and then increase the Hz in the settings. (You would also have to lower your Ren resolution aswell. Most people do anyways. How can you people play a game @ 8*6?)

2) Google for a program that'll allow you to turn Vsync on. This is show you your TRUE FPS. (But it won't make a difference in gameplay except give you more lag. For example; One moment you have 150FPS and then when something big happens like 7 mammys all shoot your FPS will drop to like 80 creating a huge lag spike)

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One last thing, if you people want to bitch and tell me I don't know what im talking about then be my guest. I really couldn't give a shit. Good day.



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Re: How come I got a 8800 and still cant get a good FPS?? [message #254616 is a reply to message #254576] Wed, 18 April 2007 15:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have an AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ running at around 2.2 GHz and in large servers (32+) my CPU can't go faster than 50-60 FPS. 60-70 FPS might be appropriate for your system in larger games because Renegade is a lot harder on CPUs than video cards.
Re: How come I got a 8800 and still cant get a good FPS?? [message #254620 is a reply to message #254576] Wed, 18 April 2007 16:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't understand why, but I have better FPS in BF2 and CSS then Renegade. Shit netcode or something probably?

Re: How come I got a 8800 and still cant get a good FPS?? [message #254621 is a reply to message #254620] Wed, 18 April 2007 16:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SeargentSarg wrote on Wed, 18 April 2007 18:13

I don't understand why, but I have better FPS in BF2 and CSS then Renegade. Shit netcode or something probably?


Off-Topic but anyways, as far as i'm aware BF2 has Vsync turned on. So its showing you your TRUE FPS. Whereas Renegade doesn't have that feature.


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Re: How come I got a 8800 and still cant get a good FPS?? [message #254622 is a reply to message #254576] Wed, 18 April 2007 16:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I know I know... But, still.. In BF2, my FPS *can* get lower, and it doesn't freeze up like renegade when I hit the same thing. Renegade has a shit FPS detector =]

Re: How come I got a 8800 and still cant get a good FPS?? [message #254633 is a reply to message #254576] Wed, 18 April 2007 18:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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BF2 runs better than Renegade if you have 2GB of ram, pretty sad considering it's 4 years newer or so.

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Re: How come I got a 8800 and still cant get a good FPS?? [message #254637 is a reply to message #254576] Wed, 18 April 2007 18:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Viking wrote on Wed, 18 April 2007 15:18

In renegade I never can get over 60-70 FPS.

AMD 2.6GHz Dual Core 5200+
EVGA 8800GTS 320MB

with that I should get like 200!!??

WTF? Angry


The human eye can't see a difference above that anyway.


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Re: How come I got a 8800 and still cant get a good FPS?? [message #254640 is a reply to message #254576] Wed, 18 April 2007 19:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I must be inhuman then; I can see above 85Hz. Sarcasm

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Re: How come I got a 8800 and still cant get a good FPS?? [message #254651 is a reply to message #254640] Wed, 18 April 2007 23:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sigh... every time there's a topic like this I always have to step in and teach a class. Everyone is right about the fact that your FPS is being limited because of your refresh rate, but if you still want FPS higher than that even though you can't see the difference, turn VSYNC off.

Merovingian wrote on Wed, 18 April 2007 13:32

Increasing the refresh rate over what your monitor can support will perminently damage your graphics card, monitor or both, rendering them useless.

Most LCD monitors support up-to 75Hz, whereas CRT (the big ones) support up to 80Hz.


No it will not damage your monitor/video card. If the screen displays fine, it's fine. If the monitor doesn't support it, it will either NOT show up in the list of refresh rates or your screen will turn BLACK. It won't run a refresh rate it cannot run. If it did, then everyone's monitors would fry. I've been running 85hz for yeeaaars, and my room hasn't caught on fire.


cmatt42 wrote on Wed, 18 April 2007 19:33

I must be inhuman then; I can see above 85Hz. Sarcasm


I can see flickering at 85hz too (on a CRT), but as far as game FPS goes, I can't really tell much past 60.

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icedog90 wrote on Thu, 19 April 2007 07:16

I can see flickering at 85hz too, but as far as game FPS goes, I can't really see much past 60.

Do LCDs even suffer from flickering? This 19" has been running at 60Hz since I got it and I've never noticed anything bad about it.

On a related note, if your fps seems to be always stuck at 60, you should turn on bloom and antialiasing to make it look better. Very Happy
With both on, I get an average 30fps which is perfectly fine for me.
Re: How come I got a 8800 and still cant get a good FPS?? [message #254661 is a reply to message #254576] Thu, 19 April 2007 00:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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LCDs don't suffer from flickering because they respond to pixel changes. What I was talking about was a CRT refresh rate. Sorry for being misleading.
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Err... My CRT can manage 120 Hz... It's also ~6 years old...
(Not beyond recommended rates, that is what it reports as its maximum)


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Well then obviously it was a good one. I got this one from my Dad and I can only guess how old it is and sure, you can have it at very fast refresh rates but only at lower resolutions. Try cranking the resolution up and keeping the same refresh rate.

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Re: How come I got a 8800 and still cant get a good FPS?? [message #254672 is a reply to message #254576] Thu, 19 April 2007 04:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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uhm, just turn vsync off in your graphic card settings, or I think
you can turn it also off if you have the latest scripts.dll installed, then there is a new option in the renegade settings menu. This has nothing to do with your LCD screen. It's just a feature to sync the FPS rate of the game with your LCD screen Smile


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A 4Ghz C2D with SLI 8800GTXs still wouldn't manage over 100fps in a 32 player game of Renegade.

You should be getting like 500FPS in the menu though if that makes you feel any better...


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Renx wrote on Thu, 19 April 2007 12:15

A 4Ghz C2D with SLI 8800GTXs still wouldn't manage over 100fps in a 32 player game of Renegade.

You should be getting like 500FPS in the menu though if that makes you feel any better...


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And yes... I actually do average over 100 fps in a 40 player game... it goes up and down, but I have quite a few screenies over 120 during gameplay; just depends on what you're looking at.
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Are you actually running at 800*600? If so put it up to a decent resolution like 1280*1024 and see what you get. That is more along the lines of what I was referring to.

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I'd like to see that machine run something like Supreme Commander.
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