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For the second time in my life, my beliefs go up in smoke. [message #140414] Thu, 24 February 2005 17:11 Go to next message
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4296373.stm

People wonder why I have little faith in religion. I used to be a pretty damned devout Christian, and then suddenly I woke up, smelled the Communion wine and decided the grapes it was made of were a little on hte sour side.

I must admit, hats off to the person who came up with this:

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Out of those polar opposites, even Solomon himself would find it hard to forge a united church.


Pretty much describes the whole situation. It seems that the 21st century will be remembered as the century that the Christian church splits.. er.. again.

I had faith in people again, faith that these people wouldn't just return to the ways of "I'm right, you're wrong, see you in three years", but hey.

It's going to be an interesting topic.
For the second time in my life, my beliefs go up in smoke. [message #140421] Thu, 24 February 2005 17:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have my own, rather strong feelings about religion that I probably won't be sharing here, but this book can largely sum all that up:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0393035158.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

No, my opinions are in no way connected to anything ACLU. Thanks for asking, though.


"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)

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For the second time in my life, my beliefs go up in smoke. [message #140434] Thu, 24 February 2005 19:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You can see some stuff on the american dollars :

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In God we trust


True for me aswell.
For the second time in my life, my beliefs go up in smoke. [message #140437] Thu, 24 February 2005 19:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OH MY GOD! ARE YOU SERIOUS? I CANNOT- WILL NOT BELIEVE THAT IT SAYS "IN GOD WE TRUST" IN OUR MONEY. THANKS FOR THOSE LIFE-CHANGING NEWS.

For the second time in my life, my beliefs go up in smoke. [message #140438] Thu, 24 February 2005 19:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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As an Anglican (at least on paper), I can understand their situation. However, if you want to look at it in a more worldly view, organized religions are ticking timebombs anyway.

So I don't care. Smile



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For the second time in my life, my beliefs go up in smoke. [message #140450] Thu, 24 February 2005 20:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Normally I would agree Java but its like changing something that has been there so long now that it has become tradition. Im not a huge religous guy but I do think that the Bible serves a purpose even if there is no God. Its a book of guidelines that a human being should follow to be a decent person. This much I do understand about religion, Its a way to keep some form of mental order stable. Anyone understand what I mean?

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For the second time in my life, my beliefs go up in smoke. [message #140451] Thu, 24 February 2005 20:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The thing that has changed is the homosexual question. And it's causing too much of a turmoil for their liking, so they want it to cool down.

It's not going to, and it's certainly not going to go away. Which is why I don't see this being resolved in a very good manner. But I can understand their intentions even if I don't share their optimism.



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For the second time in my life, my beliefs go up in smoke. [message #140452] Thu, 24 February 2005 20:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Meh, the whole legal arguement to allow same-sex marriages is wrong anyways.
For the second time in my life, my beliefs go up in smoke. [message #140455] Thu, 24 February 2005 21:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Im not a huge religous guy but I do think that the Bible serves a purpose even if there is no God. Its a book of guidelines that a human being should follow to be a decent person. This much I do understand about religion, Its a way to keep some form of mental order stable. Anyone understand what I mean?


YES. And that is all it is. People keep searching for puns, deeper meanings and people try to interpret the bible differently.

I don't care if gays do get married or not. They want to get married, let them. They aren't harming anyone.


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For the second time in my life, my beliefs go up in smoke. [message #140496] Fri, 25 February 2005 05:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'd almost forgotten what optimists looked like Wink
For the second time in my life, my beliefs go up in smoke. [message #143936] Wed, 16 March 2005 13:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In a few thousand years time, after a nuclear (or other) holocaust, people will find a few books.

These books will be read, translated into their native language, and taken as the word of God.

In my opinion, Stephen King could be the next God...


Religion should be about peace, and if it meant me dying I'd abandon mine. Abraham Lincoln said it best though.. "Be excellent to each other.."

I'd live my life by that one line if nothing else.


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For the second time in my life, my beliefs go up in smoke. [message #143955] Wed, 16 March 2005 14:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Javaxcx

As an Anglican (at least on paper), I can understand their situation. However, if you want to look at it in a more worldly view, organized religions are ticking timebombs anyway.

Why are you looking at religion from a secular standpoint in the first place? Secularism and religion have always been at odds with each other.


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For the second time in my life, my beliefs go up in smoke. [message #143956] Wed, 16 March 2005 15:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Because they do not want to see a major change on this issue. The west is renouned for it's modified religion to cope with political correctness. The ACC wants nothing to do with these changes and I fully respect and agree with them. And to avoid any kind of lengthy bullshit arguments coming from the North American side regarding an issue they have already had an answer to for ages, and to avoid any further reform (QUITE costly, I might add), they want to keep the doors closed for a while.

While I don't necessarily agree with this course of action, I can understand why they want to do it in a secular fashion because there is an important secular element to it. The west has to deal with this issue, and it is quite controversial, and the east doesn't-- or at least in an outstanding way.



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For the second time in my life, my beliefs go up in smoke. [message #144001] Wed, 16 March 2005 17:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Boy you must not have had much faith to begin with to have your entire beleif structure demolished by one single thing. Jeesh. I know a person who talks of how they turned their back on religion because of a poster they saw about world religions. I mean jeesh, your entire faith and all you beleive in is changed by a poster?

I was a DIE HARD Republican but then, like, I mispelled the, so I went Democrat.


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For the second time in my life, my beliefs go up in smoke. [message #144049] Wed, 16 March 2005 22:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lol

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For the second time in my life, my beliefs go up in smoke. [message #144089] Thu, 17 March 2005 06:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I was a DIE HARD Republican but then, like, I mispelled the, so I went Democrat.


That makes no sense to me I'm afraid.


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For the second time in my life, my beliefs go up in smoke. [message #144125] Thu, 17 March 2005 12:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's because he's from the school of "Let's point out a spelling error in the post in order to totally de-rail the argument".
For the second time in my life, my beliefs go up in smoke. [message #144267] Fri, 18 March 2005 06:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh, ok.

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For the second time in my life, my beliefs go up in smoke. [message #144274] Fri, 18 March 2005 08:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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DaveGMM

It's because he's from the school of "Let's point out a spelling error in the post in order to totally de-rail the argument".

The same exact school you're in?


whoa.
For the second time in my life, my beliefs go up in smoke. [message #144277] Fri, 18 March 2005 08:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Exactly my thoughts j_ball

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For the second time in my life, my beliefs go up in smoke. [message #144309] Fri, 18 March 2005 11:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No, that's the school of Aurora, yourself, gbull here and a hoard of other people.

The school of retards.

I'd even say we should keep on topic, but I don't even see why this thread was ressurected anymore. Ah well.
For the second time in my life, my beliefs go up in smoke. [message #144310] Fri, 18 March 2005 12:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You corrected my spelling once in order to change the subject. Care to join us in this school of "retardism"?

whoa.
For the second time in my life, my beliefs go up in smoke. [message #144331] Fri, 18 March 2005 15:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Application Rejected Dave, we dont take braindeads.

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For the second time in my life, my beliefs go up in smoke. [message #144393] Fri, 18 March 2005 23:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What on earth are you talking about Dave? That was my analogy. I don't see a teh in your post. I was pointing out that people pick the stupidest reasons to suddenly turn their back on religion. It's become some evil thing that everyone is indoctrined to hate from a young age. News flash for you all, Atheism = Religion! A religion is a beleif structure, therefore if you don't beleive in a higher power then your RELIGION is atheism. Anyhow, people like Silas Marner had a reason to turn their back on the Church. People who break a nail and blame it on the corruption of the church should go be on a pike.

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For the second time in my life, my beliefs go up in smoke. [message #144429] Sat, 19 March 2005 07:01 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Who says you don't have to believe in a higher power if you don't believe in God Wink

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