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Re: ::sorry:: the USA army [message #232360 is a reply to message #232267] Tue, 28 November 2006 20:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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gbull wrote on Tue, 28 November 2006 09:42

z310 wrote on Sun, 26 November 2006 21:46

Doesn't your tax money say that?


no

Why doesn't it? Because people who don't support the troops pay them too? Point taken. *shrugs*
Re: ::sorry:: the USA army [message #232366 is a reply to message #232347] Tue, 28 November 2006 21:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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fl00d3d wrote on Tue, 28 November 2006 20:24

xptek the reason you can say "big fucking deal" is because of veterans.


Hahahaha. Yeah. Vietnam could have invaded us or something.

fl00d3d wrote on Tue, 28 November 2006 20:24

(1) I am not old. Perhaps in relation to your 1-sprouted curly self?


If you're over 30 you're decrepit and rotting from the inside, sir.

fl00d3d wrote on Tue, 28 November 2006 20:24

(2) I interact with many people over a text-based medium. As do you. So......where were you going with this one? Oh wait, nowhere.


See "You interact with children."


fl00d3d wrote on Tue, 28 November 2006 20:24

"useless people like me"?


Why are you fabricating quotes?

fl00d3d wrote on Tue, 28 November 2006 20:24

(5) This has not be proven and I have the respect of MANY more people than you do here. I guess that confirms that you are, in fact, the 'fucking moron'?


How?

fl00d3d wrote on Tue, 28 November 2006 20:24

(6) There are no children laughing at me.


<Fat Chance, The Donut Finder> HahahaahahahhAHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAAHA.

^ Child.

fl00d3d wrote on Tue, 28 November 2006 20:24

Cool I kept my cool and continue to make you look like a fool. Better luck next time.


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Re: ::sorry:: the USA army [message #232367 is a reply to message #231679] Tue, 28 November 2006 21:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am not over 30 years of age.

I think that is the only thing I need to clarify because the rest of your counter arguments were kinda sad. I don't think there is anyone here that agrees with you, so save yourself some face time and quietly retreat.

Accept the fact that you are young and naive and do not know what you are talking about in this discussion. At that point I will have a little more respect for you.
Re: ::sorry:: the USA army [message #232369 is a reply to message #232367] Tue, 28 November 2006 21:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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fl00d3d wrote on Tue, 28 November 2006 23:38

I am not over 30 years of age.



Uh, which war were you in?

The Gulf War ended in 1991. The minimum age you can join the armed forces at is 18. This puts you at a minimum age of 33.


fl00d3d wrote on Tue, 28 November 2006 23:38

... think that is the only thing I need to clarify because the rest of your counter arguments were kinda sad. I don't think there is anyone here that agrees with you, so save yourself some face time and quietly retreat.


You should respond to them instead of responding with a very fallacious statement. If they're so sad it shouldn't be hard to address them. Sad

fl00d3d wrote on Tue, 28 November 2006 23:38

Accept the fact that you are young and naive and do not know what you are talking about in this discussion. At that point I will have a little more respect for you.


See above!


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Re: ::sorry:: the USA army [message #232373 is a reply to message #232360] Tue, 28 November 2006 23:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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z310 wrote on Tue, 28 November 2006 20:23

gbull wrote on Tue, 28 November 2006 09:42

z310 wrote on Sun, 26 November 2006 21:46

Doesn't your tax money say that?


no

Why doesn't it? Because people who don't support the troops pay them too? Point taken. *shrugs*


Yeah, GBull is right. Tax money is something that we are forced to pay anyway.


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Re: ::sorry:: the USA army [message #232389 is a reply to message #232360] Wed, 29 November 2006 03:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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z310 wrote on Tue, 28 November 2006 21:23

gbull wrote on Tue, 28 November 2006 09:42

z310 wrote on Sun, 26 November 2006 21:46

Doesn't your tax money say that?


no

Why doesn't it? Because people who don't support the troops pay them too? Point taken. *shrugs*


Simply handing someone money doesn't mean you appreciate the work they've done for you. I doubt the soldiers of Vietnam felt appreciated when they came home to a rabble of degenerates of whom took it upon themselves to spit and curse at them. Just because those soldiers got paid doesn't mean they felt as if their work was appreciated. I hold a soldier in higher regard than even myself when I think of respect, and the reason for that is he/she takes a chance of sacrificing everything for his/her country.


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Re: ::sorry:: the USA army [message #232399 is a reply to message #232369] Wed, 29 November 2006 06:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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xptek wrote on Tue, 28 November 2006 23:43

fl00d3d wrote on Tue, 28 November 2006 23:38

I am not over 30 years of age.



Uh, which war were you in?

The Gulf War ended in 1991. The minimum age you can join the armed forces at is 18. This puts you at a minimum age of 33.

Hint: The war we've been in for nearly 4 years...


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Re: ::sorry:: the USA army [message #232412 is a reply to message #231679] Wed, 29 November 2006 08:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The US is always in some sort of war. Though to be considered a "veterAn of foreign war" you have to earn one of a few select medals or ribbons. I have earned such an award. I spent close to 6 months in the Persian Gulf working 18+ hour days for the duration of that period. Weekends included.

What have you accomplished with your life, xptek? You seem to know everything and have a world of experience behind you. And you feel you're wise enough to take on someone that actually knows what they're talking about. So tell me: what is it that you have experienced that I have not? I'd really love to hear your stories.
Re: ::sorry:: the USA army [message #232425 is a reply to message #232412] Wed, 29 November 2006 10:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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[quote title=fl00d3d wrote on Wed, 29 November 2006 09:41]The US is always in some sort of war. Though to be considered a "veterAn of foreign war" you have to earn one of a few select medals or ribbons. I have earned such an award. I spent close to 6 months in the Persian Gulf working 18+ hour days for the duration of that period. Weekends included.
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Sorry to come in at the end of all this.

Is it true that the American Army receive a Northern Ireland medal, if they fly below 2000feet and above Northern Ireland,UK? Its true.

Like wise a medal for having the best polished boots? Its true.

A medal for having the best, bed-box in the billet? Its true.

Medals for the shiniest dinner set in the field? True.

It seems the Americans get medals for nothing and if you dare to reply to the above statement in the negative, then you my friend are certainly NOT serving in the US Military.

I have did my time in the British Army and WE laugh at the stupidest things that YOU can receive a medal for in the American Army.
Re: ::sorry:: the USA army [message #232426 is a reply to message #231679] Wed, 29 November 2006 10:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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fl00d3d wrote on Wed, 29 November 2006 09:41

The US is always in some sort of war. Though to be considered a "veterAn of foreign war" you have to earn one of a few select medals or ribbons. I have earned such an award. I spent close to 6 months in the Persian Gulf working 18+ hour days for the duration of that period. Weekends included.




The American Army gets a medal for flying over Northern Ireland, UK, if they dip below 2000 feet as its considered a war zone.

Medals for having the shiniest boots, best bed box, shiniest field eating kit. Its all true.

Dont even consider attempting to deny the above or you my friend are most certainly NOT a serving member of the US Military.

Ive served in the British Army and we laugh at the stupidest things that the US Military gives its troops a medal for.
Re: ::sorry:: the USA army [message #232427 is a reply to message #231679] Wed, 29 November 2006 10:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Are they official medals, or are they simply awards?

I do know that in Cadets (slightly different, I know) you could get things for perfect attendance at all parades, top drill, etc. All those did were increase morale. Some were pins, some were trophies and plaques.

The point being, is that they were simply awards, not actual medals to wear honourably over your heart.
Re: ::sorry:: the USA army [message #232433 is a reply to message #232426] Wed, 29 November 2006 11:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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puddle_splasher wrote on Wed, 29 November 2006 12:41

fl00d3d wrote on Wed, 29 November 2006 09:41

The US is always in some sort of war. Though to be considered a "veterAn of foreign war" you have to earn one of a few select medals or ribbons. I have earned such an award. I spent close to 6 months in the Persian Gulf working 18+ hour days for the duration of that period. Weekends included.




The American Army gets a medal for flying over Northern Ireland, UK, if they dip below 2000 feet as its considered a war zone.

Medals for having the shiniest boots, best bed box, shiniest field eating kit. Its all true.

Dont even consider attempting to deny the above or you my friend are most certainly NOT a serving member of the US Military.

Ive served in the British Army and we laugh at the stupidest things that the US Military gives its troops a medal for.



Actually, no...we don't.

http://www.defenselink.mil/specials/ribbons/

Also, the Air Force no longer has the good conduct medal.


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I will make it very easy for you.

Google US Military Medals.

A medal for every country served in that is considered a war zone. Dip below 2000 feet from the the US en-route to Europe and you can easily pick up 6 medals. Thats only for being in that countries airspace.

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puddle_splasher wrote on Wed, 29 November 2006 19:40

I will make it very easy for you.

Google US Military Medals.

A medal for every country served in that is considered a war zone. Dip below 2000 feet from the the US en-route to Europe and you can easily pick up 6 medals. Thats only for being in that countries airspace.




Could I get a actual link please? I don't want to sift through 1,830,000 results when you can just post a link.


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Re: ::sorry:: the USA army [message #232448 is a reply to message #231679] Wed, 29 November 2006 13:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And Google > pentagon.mil

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Re: ::sorry:: the USA army [message #232458 is a reply to message #232435] Wed, 29 November 2006 14:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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puddle_splasher wrote on Wed, 29 November 2006 13:40

I will make it very easy for you.

Google US Military Medals.

A medal for every country served in that is considered a war zone. Dip below 2000 feet from the the US en-route to Europe and you can easily pick up 6 medals. Thats only for being in that countries airspace.





http://www.defenselink.mil/specials/ribbons/

I already made it easy for you when I posted this link.

How do you expect pilots to get any medals? Did pilots not serve in every major war just because they didn't crash?

And no, that is wrong.


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Re: ::sorry:: the USA army [message #232466 is a reply to message #232389] Wed, 29 November 2006 16:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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gbull wrote on Wed, 29 November 2006 05:10

z310 wrote on Tue, 28 November 2006 21:23

gbull wrote on Tue, 28 November 2006 09:42

z310 wrote on Sun, 26 November 2006 21:46

Doesn't your tax money say that?


no

Why doesn't it? Because people who don't support the troops pay them too? Point taken. *shrugs*


Simply handing someone money doesn't mean you appreciate the work they've done for you. I doubt the soldiers of Vietnam felt appreciated when they came home to a rabble of degenerates of whom took it upon themselves to spit and curse at them. Just because those soldiers got paid doesn't mean they felt as if their work was appreciated. I hold a soldier in higher regard than even myself when I think of respect, and the reason for that is he/she takes a chance of sacrificing everything for his/her country.


Yeah. I realized that right after you said no. I was just being an idiot. Notice my message toward your "no."
Re: ::sorry:: the USA army [message #232473 is a reply to message #231679] Wed, 29 November 2006 17:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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fl00d3d wrote on Wed, 29 November 2006 10:41

What have you accomplished with your life, xptek? You seem to know everything and have a world of experience behind you. And you feel you're wise enough to take on someone that actually knows what they're talking about. So tell me: what is it that you have experienced that I have not? I'd really love to hear your stories.


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Also stole medals from veteran and am now a veteran.

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Simply handing someone money doesn't mean you appreciate the work they've done for you. I doubt the soldiers of Vietnam felt appreciated when they came home to a rabble of degenerates of whom took it upon themselves to spit and curse at them. Just because those soldiers got paid doesn't mean they felt as if their work was appreciated. I hold a soldier in higher regard than even myself when I think of respect, and the reason for that is he/she takes a chance of sacrificing everything for his/her country.


I should clarify: I have nothing against veterans, but I don't let the status cloud my judgement when people are being complete morons.


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Re: ::sorry:: the USA army [message #232494 is a reply to message #232425] Wed, 29 November 2006 21:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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puddle_splasher wrote on Wed, 29 November 2006 12:34

fl00d3d wrote on Wed, 29 November 2006 09:41

The US is always in some sort of war. Though to be considered a "veterAn of foreign war" you have to earn one of a few select medals or ribbons. I have earned such an award. I spent close to 6 months in the Persian Gulf working 18+ hour days for the duration of that period. Weekends included.



Sorry to come in at the end of all this.

Is it true that the American Army receive a Northern Ireland medal, if they fly below 2000feet and above Northern Ireland,UK? Its true.

Like wise a medal for having the best polished boots? Its true.

A medal for having the best, bed-box in the billet? Its true.

Medals for the shiniest dinner set in the field? True.

It seems the Americans get medals for nothing and if you dare to reply to the above statement in the negative, then you my friend are certainly NOT serving in the US Military.

I have did my time in the British Army and WE laugh at the stupidest things that YOU can receive a medal for in the American Army.



News to me. I've worked with foreign officers of your military and others - and never once did they laugh about how our military is run. We run an extremely efficient military so obviously we're doing something right. I'm pretty sure we did a NATO exercise as well teaching your navy how to stay afloat for more than a month at a time - and spain how to use an aircraft carrier.

Also I wasn't in the Army, I was in the Navy (CTM/Intel/Comms) and I HIGHLY doubt that half of the things you listed earn a medal. Perhaps you can point out which ribbons they get from this ribbon/medal listing? http://www.tioh.hqda.pentagon.mil/Awards/Ribbons/OrderofPrecedence.htm Because I do not see any such ribbons or medals for polishing boots or silverware.

I'd also like to point out that in my post I said that only a few medals earn you the right to be eligible for the post-service veterans group known as the VFW (Veterans of Foreign Wars). (Reference: https://www.vfw.org/index.cfm?fa=mbr.levele&eid=189) I received such an award (Armed Forces Expeditionary) for my service in the Persian Gulf.

UNIT awards are awarded to units that are in what is to be considered a "combat zone" (where they receive special additional combat pay as well as 'tax free' pay). Some awards such as "National Defense Ribbon" are awarded to all active duty military that serve during peak war periods or are deployed for extended periods of time.

Warranto: You asked about my ribbons. My DD214 only listed 6, I believe; but I know that I earned 8 -- which is what I actually wore on my dress uniform under the approval of my chain of command. They were (in no particular order):
--Joint Service Achievement Medal (earned @ NSA) - personal award
--Navy "E" Ribbon (Battle E) (Earned on CG-60)
--Good Conduct Metal (Earned @ NSA) - personal award
--Armed Forced Expeditionary Award (Earned on CG-60)
--National Defense Service Ribbon (Earned on CG-60)
--Sea Service Ribbon (Earned on CG-60) - personal award
--Joint Meritorious Unit Award (Earned @ NSA)
--Navy Unit Commendation (Earned on CG-60)
Some "ribbons" (the colorful items shown on your chest) are considered medals and when you're in full dess uniform you wear the "medal version" of the ribbon on the opposite side of the ribbons. But normally they're shown off in ribbon-form. I hope that clears up any questions.

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Re: ::sorry:: the USA army [message #232512 is a reply to message #232494] Thu, 30 November 2006 06:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I ask again that you Google, "US Military Medals".

There are medals for being in just about every country.

As regards teaching the "Brits" a lesson. You are probably correct but at least our Marines, Paras + Special Forces are not all bulked up with muscle and cant "TAB".

They are the ones that will show "The US" what can be done.

Anyway go on, check out the website.
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Heh, I didn't actually ask about your medals, specifically, I was wondering if puddle_splasher was misinterpreting moral-boosting awards for actual medals.

puddle_splasher, I went ahead and googled "US Military Medals", and came up with this link (I can only assume you meant the first link): http://members.aol.com/veterans/warlib6h.htm

I see nothing about having the best boots, or flying over a country as requirements for a medal. Admittedly, I clicked on random ones, but all required some stay of usually 30 consecutive days or longer.
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puddle_splasher wrote on Thu, 30 November 2006 07:35

I ask again that you Google, "US Military Medals".

There are medals for being in just about every country.

As regards teaching the "Brits" a lesson. You are probably correct but at least our Marines, Paras + Special Forces are not all bulked up with muscle and cant "TAB".

They are the ones that will show "The US" what can be done.

Anyway go on, check out the website.


Why can't you just post a link to the website that proves your assumptions to be true? Everyone who claims you are wrong has posted a link proving they were correct. Enough of the bullshit we shouldn't have to "google" anything...the burden of proof is on you.


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Proof of burden is on no one.

Im stating what I was told. Yes we thought it was a leg puller also.

But the Northern Ireland one appears to be a campaign medal.

Proof? When were the sites last updated? Sneaky
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The burden of proof is on you.

YOU were the one stating it was fact. Now prove it.
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