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| MexPirate wrote on Mon, 21 May 2007 17:15 |
| j_ball430 wrote on Sun, 20 May 2007 12:59 |
| Poptart wrote on Sun, 20 May 2007 13:46 |
though, doesnt it sound like he does it for attention? and if thats the case, by arguing over him you are giving him said attention?
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See! If a new guy can get it, why can't the rest of you half-wits?
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There are two types of people who flame troop, some need to slit their wrists and continually repeat the same arguments and this concept goes over their head.
Others find it amusing, seen a few people who blatently know what is going on and find the whole thing entertaining when they have a few minutes spare.
Theres a little dancing milk carton that always bings joy to a dumb thread.
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I like milk cartons xD
Does not accept 1v1, peroid. I am a teamplayer, and can't play solo. Yes, I know I suck. Deal with it.
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| Re: Trooprm02 owned :P [message #260013 is a reply to message #237082] |
Mon, 21 May 2007 18:18 |
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| Re: Trooprm02 owned :P [message #260029 is a reply to message #260013] |
Mon, 21 May 2007 20:02 |
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| EKT-Sadukar wrote on Mon, 21 May 2007 21:18 |
chocolate milk FTW!!!
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To spoony, troop, crimson.
I think enough is enough, Spoony, he will never EVER 1 vs 1 you, so can the whole community just move on with their lives?
Ive gotten my flames in, but people take it to the next level. Troop, forget about flaming me back, calling me a cheater, because we all know thats what you wanna do.
You do nothing but sit here, and make up stories about beating people, with no SS to prove it, calling your Clan "top-notch" and such.
If your not going to 1 vs 1 spoony, thats fine.
But for god sakes it doesnt give you the right to go-
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Because, seriously mate, it gets kind of out of control.
Crimson-
I think honestly, this troop bashing is getting out of hand. You normally dont put up with people constantly hitting on others this badly-
I.E. Ack, (thats another story, which i wont/cant get into)
So I think seriously one of two things need to be done, and this is meant in the highest respect to you-
You need to either, poll him up for a ban, a 3 month/6 month, Perm, your choice.
Or, immediately lock threads that turn into "lets bash troop" threads.
Spoony, I dont really have much to say to you, but I think this "Lets 1 vs 1 troop" thing is over, You've already beaten him morally, since he wont even say your name.
Can we just give this up?
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| Re: Trooprm02 owned :P [message #260037 is a reply to message #260029] |
Mon, 21 May 2007 20:58 |
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| cheekay77 wrote on Mon, 21 May 2007 23:02 |
So I think seriously one of two things need to be done, and this is meant in the highest respect to you-
You need to either, poll him up for a ban, a 3 month/6 month, Perm, your choice.
Or, immediately lock threads that turn into "lets bash troop" threads.
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No offense to you, but I see no reason why she should have to do this. It's kind of another one of those "I can't be responsible for my own actions, so I'll have others do it for me" situations.
Is troop causing any harm to the forums? Some may argue "yes" because he's being an annoyance, but in all reality, we have those who keep fanning the flames. The fire isn't to blame. It's those who started the fire who should have their feet held to the flame.
Troop is only an annoyance to those who pay attention to him. If those people put him on ignore like responsible people, troop wouldn't be such the annoyance. Instead, he'd fade away into the abyss like an old internet fad. Sure, he'll have his flare ups trying to force more attention towards him, but it shouldn't be all that hard to avoid... if people were responsible enough for their actions.
The only reason why threads like these are successful is because you people desire to fan the flames. They shouldn't have to be locked. They should never have to get past the first page.
I think it's time you people use self-restraint and stop defaulting to Crimson to "fix" things that were caused by you.
whoa.
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| Re: Trooprm02 owned :P [message #260039 is a reply to message #260037] |
Mon, 21 May 2007 21:44 |
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| j_ball430 wrote on Mon, 21 May 2007 23:58 |
| cheekay77 wrote on Mon, 21 May 2007 23:02 |
So I think seriously one of two things need to be done, and this is meant in the highest respect to you-
You need to either, poll him up for a ban, a 3 month/6 month, Perm, your choice.
Or, immediately lock threads that turn into "lets bash troop" threads.
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No offense to you, but I see no reason why she should have to do this. It's kind of another one of those "I can't be responsible for my own actions, so I'll have others do it for me" situations.
Is troop causing any harm to the forums? Some may argue "yes" because he's being an annoyance, but in all reality, we have those who keep fanning the flames. The fire isn't to blame. It's those who started the fire who should have their feet held to the flame.
Troop is only an annoyance to those who pay attention to him. If those people put him on ignore like responsible people, troop wouldn't be such the annoyance. Instead, he'd fade away into the abyss like an old internet fad. Sure, he'll have his flare ups trying to force more attention towards him, but it shouldn't be all that hard to avoid... if people were responsible enough for their actions.
The only reason why threads like these are successful is because you people desire to fan the flames. They shouldn't have to be locked. They should never have to get past the first page.
I think it's time you people use self-restraint and stop defaulting to Crimson to "fix" things that were caused by you.
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You are 100% right. Which is why I'm starting this now, while some of us are still ahead.
Sure, we've all bashed troop one way or another, but I think we need to start leaving him alone.
And if he still decides to be an idiot, ban him. Others have gotten banned for reasons simliar to this, why can't he be banned for this?
A pissed off noob Once said:
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| Re: Trooprm02 owned :P [message #260106 is a reply to message #260039] |
Tue, 22 May 2007 09:46 |
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| cheekay77 wrote on Mon, 21 May 2007 23:44 [/quote |
Sure, we've all bashed troop one way or another, but I think we need to start leaving him alone.
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Why did it take such a long time for members in this forum to come to this realization? But it's good at least this realization was reached!
Renegade is a game...just a game and it will be only a game. nothing else...have fun and not argue over these stupid things.
I read this whole thread and 100% agree with gamemodding:
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i wouldn't mind a 1v1 even though, i normally get pwned by anyone cuz im a n00b im always up for a pwnage.
the moral of the story? take a beating like a man and don't lie to get your self out of it.
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It is a game and meant to have fun...if you lose 1vs1, it DOES NOT mean you are a loser. So, play the game, have fun, lose, win, have fun but NEVER argue over these trivial things.
I hope this will be the last of those Trooprm02-bashing threads.
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| Re: Trooprm02 owned :P [message #260115 is a reply to message #237082] |
Tue, 22 May 2007 10:18 |
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imo Spoony never gave a shit. It was everybody else that kept this alive. I agree, everybody just give it up. We all know he won't play anybody, so stop bugging him and maybe he'll stop talking. 
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| Re: Trooprm02 owned :P [message #260183 is a reply to message #237082] |
Tue, 22 May 2007 15:41 |
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Then again, there are thousands of users on these forums yet only one or two of them stand out as "most hated" in the community...
So to say "people continue to fuel the fire, its not the fire's fault" is kinda bullshit. I see your argument, but really what it boils down to is there are a few people that know what buttons to push and don't know when to give up. trooprm02 is definitely one of those people.
I think a stern "warning" should be made by Crimson to people like this basically saying "Look, you have a 13 page thread going on about how people hate you here -- it'd be in your interest to lay low or place nicer, cuz if the complaints keep rolling in I'll poll the community to see if you should be banned." Then trooprm02 could say to himself "wow, maybe I should tone it down a bit" and then people wouldn't be so pissed off at him. I've tried talking to him on the side, and sometimes it works for short periods of time but he ends up coming back with another flamewar a week later.
In summary, I think that if someone is so incredibly hated by the community that they have a 13+ page thread ongoing about them ... something needs to be done. Crimson, you're the board admin - so what that "something" is, is up to you. I won't tell you how to do your job.
(edited to reflect 13 pages instead of the 8 I had thought it was ... wow, this is definitely in need of some admin attention)
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| Re: Trooprm02 owned :P [message #260184 is a reply to message #260183] |
Tue, 22 May 2007 15:51 |
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| fl00d3d wrote on Tue, 22 May 2007 17:41 |
Then again, there are thousands of users on these forums yet only one or two of them stand out as "most hated" in the community...
So to say "people continue to fuel the fire, its not the fire's fault" is kinda bullshit. I see your argument, but really what it boils down to is there are a few people that know what buttons to push and don't know when to give up. trooprm02 is definitely one of those people.
I think a stern "warning" should be made by Crimson to people like this basically saying "Look, you have a 13 page thread going on about how people hate you here -- it'd be in your interest to lay low or place nicer, cuz if the complaints keep rolling in I'll poll the community to see if you should be banned." Then trooprm02 could say to himself "wow, maybe I should tone it down a bit" and then people wouldn't be so pissed off at him. I've tried talking to him on the side, and sometimes it works for short periods of time but he ends up coming back with another flamewar a week later.
In summary, I think that if someone is so incredibly hated by the community that they have a 13+ page thread ongoing about them ... something needs to be done. Crimson, you're the board admin - so what that "something" is, is up to you. I won't tell you how to do your job.
(edited to reflect 13 pages instead of the 8 I had thought it was ... wow, this is definitely in need of some admin attention)
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| Re: Trooprm02 owned :P [message #260188 is a reply to message #237082] |
Tue, 22 May 2007 16:15 |
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haha, it's a computer game fourm not real life.
free speech to retards I say, take it as a bit of entertainment or ignore it.
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| Re: Trooprm02 owned :P [message #260190 is a reply to message #260183] |
Tue, 22 May 2007 16:17 |
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| fl00d3d wrote on Tue, 22 May 2007 18:41 |
Then again, there are thousands of users on these forums yet only one or two of them stand out as "most hated" in the community...
So to say "people continue to fuel the fire, its not the fire's fault" is kinda bullshit. I see your argument, but really what it boils down to is there are a few people that know what buttons to push and don't know when to give up. trooprm02 is definitely one of those people.
I think a stern "warning" should be made by Crimson to people like this basically saying "Look, you have a 13 page thread going on about how people hate you here -- it'd be in your interest to lay low or place nicer, cuz if the complaints keep rolling in I'll poll the community to see if you should be banned." Then trooprm02 could say to himself "wow, maybe I should tone it down a bit" and then people wouldn't be so pissed off at him. I've tried talking to him on the side, and sometimes it works for short periods of time but he ends up coming back with another flamewar a week later.
In summary, I think that if someone is so incredibly hated by the community that they have a 13+ page thread ongoing about them ... something needs to be done. Crimson, you're the board admin - so what that "something" is, is up to you. I won't tell you how to do your job.
(edited to reflect 13 pages instead of the 8 I had thought it was ... wow, this is definitely in need of some admin attention)
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Nothing needs to be done by the administration besides telling everybody to quit whining.
So troop antagonizes. So what? That's not against the rules of these forums. He's not the one creating these threads. Why should he be punished because others don't have any self-control?
If I yell at you to the point of where you get pissed off an hit me, you're the one at fault for hitting me. You ultimately chose to hit me. I did nothing illegal. Sure, I am an asshole for antagonizing you, but you're the one at fault for taking a swing.
I'm not saying troop hasn't done anything wrong, either, but everybody else is just as guilty (including myself). We've all antagonized. We've all flamed each other, and most of the people bitching about troop have antagonized him by challenging him to a 1v1 and bitching about him not replying. You were tempting him to reply. You're just as guilty as him.
Those of you who use ACK's banning as reason why this should happen to troop, too. I'll tell you this: I didn't agree with ACK's banning. I'll say it again, everybody defaults to whining to Crimson to "fix" things when there's nothing to fix other than the lack of responsibility of the majority of users. If you don't like someone, that's fine, but you shouldn't flame him and then expect to get him banned in the process.
whoa.
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| Re: Trooprm02 owned :P [message #260191 is a reply to message #237082] |
Tue, 22 May 2007 16:18 |
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banning ACK was bs imo.
haha, went back and checked that thread - this analogy is priceless and to the point
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There are a LOT of people who like to sling shit, and I have a feeling that if they were on trial, you'd be on the other end of the stick right now. Even Crimson called all the people assholes who decided to join in and bash ack for something in his own personal life. Back then they say he deserved it, well then alright, apparently after that entire whole deal, it STILL isn't square. "you said so and so's work sucks! So I'm going to laugh and sling shit at you for being born differently when it's not like you had a choice in the matter. It'd be like laughing at some guy in a wheel chair for having some disease that took his legs. HAHA - YOU DON'T HAVE ANY LEGS, IDIOT! WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO BE BORN THAT WAY? But, maybe you're right. Maybe comparing someone saying, "your work sucks" to making fun of a person who has no legs is comparable in the ranks of "asshole" Oh wait, actually it would mean LESS than that, because they aren't being voted to be banned while he is. Not that I care to see them banned, but if you're going to say someone deserves to be banned for being an asshole, there are plenty of other people we can pick and choose.
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If you are going to ban one person ban all the pricks around here. I can think of other just as if not more deserving.
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| Re: Trooprm02 owned :P [message #260192 is a reply to message #237082] |
Tue, 22 May 2007 16:25 |
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Unfortunately for your logic, in the real world when people intentionally try to piss someone off and they get assaulted for it, the courts side with the person who was having his personal space violated by an instigator.
In our situation, we have a "police force" figure (the admins/mods), an annoyance (trooprm02), and victims (the community). If the annoyance were to wander the streets of a city pissing off victims, in sight of the police force, it would be expected of the police force to ask the annoyance to calm down or walk away.
Why yell at the people who play fair, don't talk much smack, follow rules, etc? They haven't done anything wrong other than tell this kid he's being a loser for annoying the hell out of them with his bullshit. He is the minority in the situation: the isolated variable of this problem. You have one aggressor/problem-child and nearly a hundred or more victims of his delusions. I just don't see how you can possibly blame the hundreds of victims rather than him. It makes no sense to me.
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| Re: Trooprm02 owned :P [message #260193 is a reply to message #237082] |
Tue, 22 May 2007 16:27 |
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ACK opposed the governing forces, thus why he was banned. I sincerely doubt it had anything to do with the people of this community demanding he be banned. He was quiet compared to some of these latest annoyances.
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| Re: Trooprm02 owned :P [message #260198 is a reply to message #260192] |
Tue, 22 May 2007 16:34 |
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| fl00d3d wrote on Tue, 22 May 2007 19:25 |
Unfortunately for your logic, in the real world when people intentionally try to piss someone off and they get assaulted for it, the courts side with the person who was having his personal space violated by an instigator.
In our situation, we have a "police force" figure (the admins/mods), an annoyance (trooprm02), and victims (the community). If the annoyance were to wander the streets of a city pissing off victims, in sight of the police force, it would be expected of the police force to ask the annoyance to calm down or walk away.
Why yell at the people who play fair, don't talk much smack, follow rules, etc? They haven't done anything wrong other than tell this kid he's being a loser for annoying the hell out of them with his bullshit. He is the minority in the situation: the isolated variable of this problem. You have one aggressor/problem-child and nearly a hundred or more victims of his delusions. I just don't see how you can possibly blame the hundreds of victims rather than him. It makes no sense to me.
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KKK rallies are protected by police forces. That's a bunch of antagonists annoying an entire city and even the surrounding area. They spew hate and incite anger and reactions from opposing crowds. Yet, as I just mentioned, they're protected by the police.
Even so, here we have the ability to annoy aggressors. Someone shouting and making noise while going up and down streets is a public nuisance, but if there were non-lethal and legal ways of shutting him up or ignoring him, then the police couldn't do anything.
Why am I blaming the victims? Because they ARE NOT victims. They ALLOW themselves to be annoyed and then react to it. They are equal participants in this. Again, all they had to do was click the fucking ignore button. That takes less effort than having to click the reply button, type up their lengthy and "witty" reply, and then hit "Submit Reply". The problem would have been adverted, would it have not?
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| Re: Trooprm02 owned :P [message #260200 is a reply to message #237082] |
Tue, 22 May 2007 16:38 |
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I could understand one or two people ignoring eachother here and there. But this guy obviously affects more than a couple of people.
Why should 100+ people have to ignore 1 person when the admin could just tell the guy to 'calm down'. If you click on ignore, you can't see all the false, exaggerated, or dumb shit that he says about you. And since the majority of the people on these forums seem to believe whatever they're told - its a credible issue.
For example, I could choose to "ignore" TehPwnerer(Matix) or I could watch him to refute all the bullshit that comes out of his mouth. One solution is passive and the other is proactive. I'm not a passive person.
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| Re: Trooprm02 owned :P [message #260210 is a reply to message #237082] |
Tue, 22 May 2007 16:46 |
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So under your theory you're saying that people should just cope with ignorant people rather than ask the admins/mods to deal with it abruptly? I would hope that the admins/mods care to make the forums a pleasurable experience. Perhaps I was wrong.
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