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If you're going to play with Aircraftkiller.. [message #58618] Sun, 21 December 2003 12:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aircraftkiller is currently offline  Aircraftkiller
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Another thing, I guess you wonder why I think people cheat so much. I play in a lot of servers. I read a lot of reports from various people about who cheats and who doesn't. I'm paranoid about cheats because I hate how they ruin the game in every aspect.

I'm not kick happy, I just hate it when people cheat, and I keep a constant look out for them wherever I go. Sometimes I go on the sense that I should kick someone killing people suspiciously. Sometimes I don't, and won't kick someone. It's not an easy thing to differentiate between cheats and standard players who just want to enjoy the game.

I make mistakes when I kick, don't recall ever claiming to be perfect about it... If someone was banned in error, then I'll remove it, like I did for tan's ban. After he came back and talked to me about it, I removed it.
If you're going to play with Aircraftkiller.. [message #58619] Sun, 21 December 2003 12:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Infinint is currently offline  Infinint
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Aircraftkiller

I'm not kick happy

^ look, now he’s in denial.


If you're going to play with Aircraftkiller.. [message #58620] Sun, 21 December 2003 13:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aircraftkiller is currently offline  Aircraftkiller
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Why don't you just fuck off and get back on that horse you rode in on? You don't have anything to do with this thread and you certainly weren't there when this all happened.
If you're going to play with Aircraftkiller.. [message #58623] Sun, 21 December 2003 13:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Slicer_238 is currently offline  Slicer_238
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But this is a public forum which allows people to give their opinion.

May Trey rest in forever bliss and happiness.
If you're going to play with Aircraftkiller.. [message #58624] Sun, 21 December 2003 13:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aircraftkiller is currently offline  Aircraftkiller
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Yes, I realize that.

A public forum where people may give their opinions, however misinformed or stupid they might be.
If you're going to play with Aircraftkiller.. [message #58625] Sun, 21 December 2003 13:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller


I make mistakes when I kick, don't recall ever claiming to be perfect about it... If someone was banned in error, then I'll remove it, like I did for tan's ban. After he came back and talked to me about it, I removed it.


We all make mistakes, none of us believes that we are perfect in that regard. The pits has over 1000 nicks that are banned, and I'm pretty sure there are a good percentage of them that shouldn't be there; we all have to live with those decisions.

But this isn't about those people Ack, this is about your continued delusions that there is a speed-warp-flicker hack that a select few people are using, rather than just admitting that the game has lag and some people are better snipers than you. And now you're kicking anyone at all that does the same thing..

I remember a few weeks ago, you and I were on Nod, playing on Islands and you sent me a PM, something like "I finally figured out what they are doing, just mash the ASDW keys really fast, in any order." Then you and I proceeded to do it while the other one watched and you proclaimed "THATS IT!" as I was warping around right in front of your eyes.. and yet YOU STILL KICK PEOPLE FOR HAVING A FUCKING FLICKER HACK.

I told you.. it got old, and I was growing tired of it. You're upset now.. you feel that our "friendship" has been broken, that I've "Turned on you".. tell me.. how the fuck do you think all those other people feel that you accuse? And if I side with you, and don't stand up for people like x50 or snipegod1, I have essentially bought in to the "old boys club" and stabbed them in the back myself. YOU put me in those positions.. and YOU can't take it yourself.

Last night, I thought you understood this, whithout having to go to these great lenghts in public, you actuall "Apologized" to me in an IRC PM, saying you were sorry for blowing it out of proportion.. I UNBANNED you from the server, and then wake up to find out your talking shit in F2 chat, in other servers about the whole incident, me and our community..

Whos stabbing who in the back now?
If you're going to play with Aircraftkiller.. [message #58626] Sun, 21 December 2003 13:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Majiin Vegeta is currently offline  Majiin Vegeta
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Blazer

I have seen snipers that when I scoped them, where vibrating so fast they were almost a blur, and just like an agent on the Matrix, all the bullets I fired at them missed.




there is a huge difference in a blur and a sombody flickering..

if i can i will try catch a few people with fraps.. but when people will try blame that shit on my 20 FPS :rolleyes:

oops forgot to mention people can make them selfs flicker more
by exploiting a little command.. which i wont go into incase more people use it >_<
If you're going to play with Aircraftkiller.. [message #58628] Sun, 21 December 2003 13:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aircraftkiller is currently offline  Aircraftkiller
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At least we're getting to the root of this now.

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But this isn't about those people Ack, this is about your continued delusions that there is a speed-warp-flicker hack that a select few people are using, rather than just admitting that the game has lag and some people are better snipers than you. And now you're kicking anyone at all that does the same thing..


I'm not kicking anyone who warps. I am kicking people who do the insane warp, which is aided by what Madness just said... You can appear to warp even more by setting your KPBS rate down.

When I did that test with you, you were warping, but you weren't moving from the Airstrip runway to the Hand's footstep in less than a second. You were just flickering side to side like any other sniper does.

This is where I draw the line. If someone moves extremely fast, as in they're at one side of the tunnel and then on the other, within a second, I get suspicious. If they're killing me really easily at the same time, I have a hard time thinking that isn't a cheat.

I mean, in my view, it totally disregards the way the game was set up... Unless these people have jetpacks that you can't see, I don't know how they're moving that fast, and it can't just be latency... Because I've never seen any other FPS game with this particular happenstance.

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I told you.. it got old, and I was growing tired of it. You're upset now.. you feel that our "friendship" has been broken, that I've "Turned on you".. tell me.. how the fuck do you think all those other people feel that you accuse? And if I side with you, and don't stand up for people like x50 or snipegod1, I have essentially bought in to the "old boys club" and stabbed them in the back myself. YOU put me in those positions.. and YOU can't take it yourself.

Last night, I thought you understood this, whithout having to go to these great lenghts in public, you actuall "Apologized" to me in an IRC PM, saying you were sorry for blowing it out of proportion.. I UNBANNED you from the server, and then wake up to find out your talking shit in F2 chat, in other servers about the whole incident, me and our community..


There's a big difference between x50 and SnipeGod1. A HUGE difference. Want to know? Snipe moves just like you do. Or like I do. Or like any other flickering sniper does.

x50 moves at an impossible rate of speed, and gets very questionable kills through objects and such while doing that. This has always been my problem with him. That, and the fact that he calls himself "the best sniper ever" when he does this stuff. It's almost as if he's cheating the game just to get people to worship him.

I have no problems with the way Snipegod plays, because observing him shows that he uses tactics and knows how to hide and shoot. He doesn't depend on moving at warp nine to keep from dying, and to get kills on people.

I did, indeed, talk shit about the server, there's no denying that. I can't remember exactly what was said, I just remember saying that Crimson's server is where I plan on staying now because of what you've told me... And that you accused me of cheating, and that I refuse to play somewhere where I'm accused of cheating by the server administrator.

I probably made other comments saying that you were mad because I killed you easier in vehicles than others did, and I apoligize for that. It's just a knee-jerk reaction to being banned from a place I've played in for a very long time.

I had no idea that you had unbanned me from the server. That and the fact that you wouldn't respond to anything I wrote to you in IRC wasn't helping me understand that I wasn't still banned. For all I knew at that point in time, you still thought I cheat and didn't want to remove the ban because of what I had said... So I gave up on it and moved on to playing somewhere else.

If I'm unbanned, that's great, thank you. I don't know if I'll come back and play until RenGuard is out, just so you'll be certain that I don't cheat.

In addition to that, if you come down here in March, bring your computer with you. I'll bring mine along for the ride, and I'll show you that I can kill you just the same with your computer as I can with mine. Smile
If you're going to play with Aircraftkiller.. [message #58629] Sun, 21 December 2003 13:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nastym4n is currently offline  nastym4n
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Aircraftkiller

This was a good player using an anonymous login. How was I to know who it was?


I have a lot of annonymous logins (smurfs Smile ), and I have some understanding for this statement.

I have been asked for SS twice and kicked 3 times so far. I like to keep count because I actually consider it a compliment (if an annoying one) when I am kicked for cheating. I must make it clear at this point how much I hate cheats.

Warp cheat sounds to me a lot like the low kbps hack, where people deliberately lower their kbps to lag kill. Check ppls kbps more, and kick players with very low kbps. That solves that.
If you refer to extremely rapid sideways movement put 3rd person view on, lock your sight on someone's head, and try it (WITHOUT zoom). See?

I am not getting involved in any arguments here, just thought Id add my 2 cents.


If you're going to play with Aircraftkiller.. [message #58633] Sun, 21 December 2003 14:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kawolsky is currently offline  kawolsky
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cowmisfit

lol better not play with a long name either. Razz


yea he`ll call it a distraction and ban you...


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If you're going to play with Aircraftkiller.. [message #58634] Sun, 21 December 2003 14:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've received literally dozens of complaints of ACK abusing his moderator powers in the server. There's no denying it. But I would never accuse him of cheating himself.

I'm the bawss.
If you're going to play with Aircraftkiller.. [message #58638] Sun, 21 December 2003 14:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aircraftkiller is currently offline  Aircraftkiller
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It's my personal experience that people complain about me, just because I'm myself, and they let others tell them what to think about me, instead of actually talking to me... So they form judgement against me without even talking to me once, and whatever I do is automatically wrong and complained about.

So I don't normally take a lot of the complaints with anything but a grain of salt.
If you're going to play with Aircraftkiller.. [message #58645] Sun, 21 December 2003 14:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Slicer_238 is currently offline  Slicer_238
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Aircraftkiller

Yes, I realize that.

A public forum where people may give their opinions, however misinformed or stupid they might be.


Good then you see my point.

EDIT: ACK do you really think people just listen to other's opinions about you? When I first came to the offical forums back when WS hosted them I read three of your posts, gathered from them that you were arrorgant, but I don't have anything against you. Most people just don't like the snide retorts you throw at them, for no reason or good reasons for that matter.


May Trey rest in forever bliss and happiness.
If you're going to play with Aircraftkiller.. [message #58649] Sun, 21 December 2003 15:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aircraftkiller is currently offline  Aircraftkiller
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Actually, yes, I've spoken with many people who were basically brainwashed into thinking that I'm evil and out to destroy the world, just because someone doesn't like me.

Then I talk to them on AIM or something, and they go "Wow, you aren't the big evil person everyone always makes you out to be."

Here's an example, from a while ago:

From: imortalfu
To: Aircraftkiller
Posted: 05 Mar 2003 02:33
Subject: eh
oh btw:
doasux0rz = me (imortalfu, LTImortal), irsux0rz = icefox121, CptSpock = Spocker69, slaghtered = uh slag, chasgn1 = uh we really dont know, and you = welcome to fuck around with us whenever you want we usually dont screw around as much, just spocker was drunk, ice was bored and i was tired. if the pits ever opens up again and i see you in there, il make sure to get you on my teamspeak, my teamspeak is ******** and has no password and for the most part is pretty busy. but i just wanna tell ya that nobody wanted you in the teamspeak except me, and now we all think your not such a prick like everyone makes you out to be, and on behalf of us who were not drunk or high, or in punkkills case, stubborn, we apoligize. well im tired and going to sleep, you can add me to MSN if you use it, im ***********@hotmail.com. Hope to play with ya again.

-imortal
If you're going to play with Aircraftkiller.. [message #58650] Sun, 21 December 2003 15:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Infinint is currently offline  Infinint
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Infinint

If ACK can’t do it, doesn’t like it, or thinks its stupid it cant be done by any one, has to be hated by every one and it is stupid...


If you're going to play with Aircraftkiller.. [message #58653] Sun, 21 December 2003 15:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aircraftkiller is currently offline  Aircraftkiller
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I don't recall appointing you to the position of being my spokesman. I don't recall ever saying anything to you about my personal philosophies or how I view the world.

I do, however, recall telling you to fuck off.
If you're going to play with Aircraftkiller.. [message #58654] Sun, 21 December 2003 15:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cpo64 is currently offline  Cpo64
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Ha ha ha ha....

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If you're going to play with Aircraftkiller.. [message #58657] Sun, 21 December 2003 15:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Slicer_238 is currently offline  Slicer_238
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Aircraftkiller

I don't recall appointing you to the position of being my spokesman. I don't recall ever saying anything to you about my personal philosophies or how I view the world.

I do, however, recall telling you to fuck off.


You didn't tell how you viewed it so he guessed.


May Trey rest in forever bliss and happiness.
If you're going to play with Aircraftkiller.. [message #58661] Sun, 21 December 2003 15:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Infinint is currently offline  Infinint
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A mighty fine geuss i might add, iv done alot of reaserch.

I'll go fuck off later, I'm busy right now.


If you're going to play with Aircraftkiller.. [message #58662] Sun, 21 December 2003 15:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aircraftkiller is currently offline  Aircraftkiller
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He can research everything he needs to, he'll still be wrong. My views on game modifications and levels aren't up for debate.
If you're going to play with Aircraftkiller.. [message #58663] Sun, 21 December 2003 15:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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.....and a partridge in a pear tree.

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If you're going to play with Aircraftkiller.. [message #58665] Sun, 21 December 2003 16:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ACK exposed, gold I tell you, gold.

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If you're going to play with Aircraftkiller.. [message #58667] Sun, 21 December 2003 16:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aircraftkiller is currently offline  Aircraftkiller
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Exposed? How? What was there to expose? Everything I do is made public, so what the fuck was there to hide that got exposed?

I still don't know why you're here, now that I see you again. I'm surprised Crimson didn't ban you for making her IRC server come under attack by giving out the IP address of the hub to botnet owners.

You're still a sack of shit.
If you're going to play with Aircraftkiller.. [message #58669] Sun, 21 December 2003 16:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Infinint is currently offline  Infinint
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Me and some friends were thinking of making a documentary on every thing ACK has done.

One theory that i think is most probable is that ACK did not make Glacier Flying. Haven’t you noticed that all the maps ACKs ever made have never matched up to how good Glacier was. I think that Westwood used ACK to help gain popularity for Renegade. If people saw that a fan's map got into renegade as an official map they might try to make maps of their own and try to get theirs in as well, which has never happened. Also you see that Westwood is letting ACK finish allot of their maps that they did not finish. This leads me to believe that ACK really inset as big as he thinks he is.

EDIT: he even seems a little nervous in his posts.


If you're going to play with Aircraftkiller.. [message #58671] Sun, 21 December 2003 16:16 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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I have never seen this warping effect. I cant snipe so I dont bother. By any chance does any one have a recording they can post up. I would like to see it.

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