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Re: Question [message #364074 is a reply to message #363315] Sat, 20 December 2008 02:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The whole point is that nothing is unbypassable. If you make it difficult enough, a lot of people will not bother trying.

Don't forget many of these cheaters play on their daddy's computer and can't afford to do a lot of the stuff that would be needed to bypass these measures.


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Re: Question [message #364104 is a reply to message #363315] Sat, 20 December 2008 08:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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not much of a question is it?
Re: Question [message #364832 is a reply to message #363315] Thu, 25 December 2008 20:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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is it confirmed that this patch is going through as official therefor made mandatory?
Re: Question [message #364833 is a reply to message #364832] Thu, 25 December 2008 20:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hitman wrote on Thu, 25 December 2008 21:19

is it confirmed that this patch is going through as official therefor made mandatory?

If you were to go back and read the early TT threads, you'd know that they plan to seek EA's approval to push the patch. Of course, they won't do this until they're absolutely sure it's rock solid.


Re: Question [message #364834 is a reply to message #363315] Thu, 25 December 2008 20:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i just hope that it doesnt bring alot of trouble once it enters beta testing...
Re: Question [message #364838 is a reply to message #363315] Fri, 26 December 2008 01:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It was said before that tests would be done through "events". Hopefully these tests will be sufficient.

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Re: Question [message #364849 is a reply to message #364834] Fri, 26 December 2008 03:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hitman wrote on Fri, 26 December 2008 04:33

i just hope that it doesnt bring alot of trouble once it enters beta testing...

Well, we are of course not testing while we program, and we also do not have internal alpha tests, and we certainly will not have beta tests....

Ofcourse we're testing it.....


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Re: Question [message #364877 is a reply to message #363315] Fri, 26 December 2008 09:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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im pretty sure shit like windows vista and such will give so many errors with this patch tho... but i dont run that shit anyways so nvm
Re: Question [message #364880 is a reply to message #364877] Fri, 26 December 2008 10:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hitman wrote on Fri, 26 December 2008 17:03

im pretty sure shit like windows vista and such will give so many errors with this patch tho... but i dont run that shit anyways so nvm

Well, guess what, we're testing on both windows XP as vista, so unless you screwed over your windows install, it'll probably run on it....


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Re: Question [message #364884 is a reply to message #363315] Fri, 26 December 2008 10:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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so how's the work in progress? 1/3th done? 2/3th done? can we expect this patch in the first half of 2009?
Re: Question [message #364897 is a reply to message #363315] Fri, 26 December 2008 12:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The reason hitman keeps asking is that if the patch doesn't come out relatively soon the clanwars.cc renegade league is gonna hit the fan.
I know alot of the renegade public isn't too fond of the ppl in the league, but it can be renegade at its finest when retards aren't around :/
Re: Question [message #364899 is a reply to message #363315] Fri, 26 December 2008 12:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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hmm well yeah... but not really particulary in the cw.cc league but renegade overall is pretty fucked up nowadays... only game i play cos other games get so boring so quick

Re: Question [message #364900 is a reply to message #364877] Fri, 26 December 2008 12:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hitman wrote on Fri, 26 December 2008 10:03

im pretty sure shit like windows vista and such will give so many errors with this patch tho... but i dont run that shit anyways so nvm



I've heard from *very* reliable sources that the person doing shaders.dll work runs Windows Vista Ultimate x64 with UAC enabled on his system and is also working on getting as many kinks out of Renegade for players running Vista or any other Windows OS without having full administrative privileges. Get this, Renegade with a limited user on XP has the same problems as Vista "has".
Re: Question [message #365046 is a reply to message #363315] Sat, 27 December 2008 15:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah, MS finally implemented user privilege levels and loads of softeare broke... suprise! At least they added the "run as administrator" option.

I imagine the patch will get done pretty soon - some sort of test by march 09. I hope.



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CarrierII wrote on Sat, 27 December 2008 22:23

Yeah, MS finally implemented user privilege levels and loads of softeare broke... suprise! At least they added the "run as administrator" option.




They've always had them implemented under NT, but everybody (consumer-wise, not businesses) was always running as Administrator because they didn't want to log out and back into an admin account to make administrative changes.

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Re: Question [message #365124 is a reply to message #365062] Sun, 28 December 2008 05:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Saberhawk wrote on Sun, 28 December 2008 00:49

CarrierII wrote on Sat, 27 December 2008 22:23

Yeah, MS finally implemented user privilege levels and loads of softeare broke... suprise! At least they added the "run as administrator" option.




They've always had them implemented under NT, but everybody (consumer-wise, not businesses) was always running as Administrator because they didn't want to log out and back into an admin account to make administrative changes.

Don't forget that the default user when created is created as administrator. Or at least, that was the case on windows XP. And well, most PC users don't even know what administrator means, let alone change it for some user account...


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Re: Question [message #365126 is a reply to message #365124] Sun, 28 December 2008 05:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Sun, 28 December 2008 06:46

Saberhawk wrote on Sun, 28 December 2008 00:49

CarrierII wrote on Sat, 27 December 2008 22:23

Yeah, MS finally implemented user privilege levels and loads of softeare broke... suprise! At least they added the "run as administrator" option.




They've always had them implemented under NT, but everybody (consumer-wise, not businesses) was always running as Administrator because they didn't want to log out and back into an admin account to make administrative changes.

Don't forget that the default user when created is created as administrator. Or at least, that was the case on windows XP. And well, most PC users don't even know what administrator means, let alone change it for some user account...



Nope, you definitely had a choice.
Re: Question [message #365267 is a reply to message #365126] Mon, 29 December 2008 05:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm certain that with Win XP SP2 install disk the default user that you create is Administrator, At least that happens for the dutch version....

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Re: Question [message #365272 is a reply to message #365267] Mon, 29 December 2008 06:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Mon, 29 December 2008 06:12

I'm certain that with Win XP SP2 install disk the default user that you create is Administrator, At least that happens for the dutch version....



The first users (aka the ones you create via Setup) are Administrators, however the Users control panel item gives you the choice between Administrator and Limited User.
Re: Question [message #365273 is a reply to message #365272] Mon, 29 December 2008 06:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Saberhawk wrote on Mon, 29 December 2008 14:41

EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Mon, 29 December 2008 06:12

I'm certain that with Win XP SP2 install disk the default user that you create is Administrator, At least that happens for the dutch version....



The first users (aka the ones you create via Setup) are Administrators, however the Users control panel item gives you the choice between Administrator and Limited User.

I suspect that about 70 to 80% (at least) of the users don't know the control panel "users" so... By default everyone is an admin.


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Re: Question [message #365327 is a reply to message #363315] Mon, 29 December 2008 12:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well if they don't know about creating new accounts "in" windows then I don't see how they could even get through a windows install Razz

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Re: Question [message #365339 is a reply to message #365327] Mon, 29 December 2008 14:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The same way as you install any other program, just by pressing next next next all the time Wink

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Re: Question [message #365804 is a reply to message #364006] Fri, 02 January 2009 21:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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StealthEye wrote on Fri, 19 December 2008 13:43

forcing a hardware change can never be done anyway, one can always change the detection code to make it detect whatever hardware they want.

I also assume you could just run it all inside of a virtual machine, therefore emulating whatever hardware you wanted...


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However true that may be... I dont really think playing Ren via VMware or any other emulating program is gonna be easy. I would suspect that it would lag real bad and make it really unplayable for the user.

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Caveman wrote on Sat, 03 January 2009 06:49

However true that may be... I dont really think playing Ren via VMware or any other emulating program is gonna be easy. I would suspect that it would lag real bad and make it really unplayable for the user.

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