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| Darker wrote on Wed, 09 August 2006 21:31 |
Not really, and i did not say "They're just saying that because they feel threatened" I just sayed that could be one of the reasons. And some people are like that, not saying you are, i can see you are not. 
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I'm just saying, it's an overused excuse for people to use to help with self-esteem. I mean, it's an easy way out. "Oh, you're just jealous of/threatened by me." It's a scapegoat for them than to actually face the facts that maybe they aren't as important than they thought.
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| Merovingian wrote on Thu, 10 August 2006 02:30 |
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It's a public forum for a computer game! Who cares if a bunch of spotty 13 year old dullards "respect" them?
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Me, since i have no social respect what-so-ever. I never leave the house i have such bad respect.
And their not necciserily spotty 13 year olds. I'm 17 myself but still alone. No freinds, no relationships, i have a family yes, but i hate them because they don't take me for who i am, they take me for my knowlage.
A person is a person, with a mind to make up. Making it up is the hard part. Making others feel wanted is a hard part too.
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I'm sorry to hear that, I'm sure you're a nice person. Maybe you could try meeting new people at college and/or work. Certainly worked for me. I only got on well with a handful of people from my school. They were mostly egotistical morons.
When I got to college I picked a course that suited my interests and personality (music) and got to meet and befriend quite a few people who I had a lot in common with.
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| Re: The Three, Which one are you? [message #212534 is a reply to message #212523] |
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| Darker wrote on Wed, 09 August 2006 20:19 |
Hard to gain respect?
Merovingian, just saying that will have gotten you tons of respect, you have only been here that long and were already have tons of respect and was nominated for Moderator.
Why do you insist on pretending you don't get respect. And another thing, it depends on how you go about getting respect, and what you do with the respect you get.
Are you trying to look better than everyone else...no AssWisers Way
Are you being Nice and helpful to the community...yes Respectfuls Way
Do you think only Inward...No AssWisers Way
Do you try to make others look stupid...No AssWisers Way
Do you quote "Ok." A something without thats not a sentence with a period, no!
You are a Respectful! Not an Asswiser
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Who are you to determine if a person is trying to look better than everyone else? If I wear nice shoes, does that mean I'm an asswiser that is trying to look better than everyone elses? There are infinite perspectives and there is no solid way of saying a person is trying to look better.
You also can't possible say something is a "good" or "bad" classification. For example, looking inward, "introverts", does not mean it is a bad thing. Just because one person does not like to be social or around others doesn't mean that's wrong. Being talkative or not is not something to label as something as good or bad, as you clearly are doing by classifying "asswiser" as bad, otherwise you wouldn't have put the word "ass" in it. Also, what you think as someone trying to make you/others look stupid might be a person trying to help you. If a person encourages a person to spell correctly and hopefully improve their grammar, why is that bad? By your logic, I could say it is "asswiser" to not receive help from others and not learn such things.
Bottomline is there is no real way you can classify anyone into three groups and say one is worse than the other. You cannot have all good personality traits, because there is no such thing is something being better than the other. An introvert enjoys work like computers and working in an office. An extrovert likes to be more sociable and may enjoy a job like salesman or working with other people.
In fact, you're putting down others by labeling them as "asswiser" and that's a bad thing to be apparently. So by what right do you have to even comment?
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| Re: The Three, Which one are you? [message #212535 is a reply to message #212492] |
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I'm sure you didn't mean to put me down, and i'm sorry if i made you feel guilty.
I am planning on going to collage/work and hopefully meet new people, i have respect at school as being the "Head tech" (knowlage in music technolagy and advanced computing (recently done a huge school gig and setup media dept's Mac G5)) by members of staff and they don't want me to leave. I might stay on for another year (2nd year 6thform) depending on my GCSE results.
I just hope my life gets better from here on, recently met a girl on my server who throught i was "sweet". If not....... i don't know what i would do.
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| Sniper_De7 wrote on Wed, 09 August 2006 21:53 |
In fact, you're putting down others by labeling them as "asswiser" and that's a bad thing to be apparently. So by what right do you have to even comment?
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I think that you may be onto something.
For someone to say that someone is an asswiser, that would be passing judgement, and passing judgement would classify you as an asswiser, as being an "asswiser" is a negative thing, so you would be making yourself out to be better, as you claim yourself capable of deciding who or who isn't an asswiser.
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| Re: The Three, Which one are you? [message #212537 is a reply to message #212534] |
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| Sniper_De7 wrote on Wed, 09 August 2006 20:53 |
| Darker wrote on Wed, 09 August 2006 20:19 |
Hard to gain respect?
Merovingian, just saying that will have gotten you tons of respect, you have only been here that long and were already have tons of respect and was nominated for Moderator.
Why do you insist on pretending you don't get respect. And another thing, it depends on how you go about getting respect, and what you do with the respect you get.
Are you trying to look better than everyone else...no AssWisers Way
Are you being Nice and helpful to the community...yes Respectfuls Way
Do you think only Inward...No AssWisers Way
Do you try to make others look stupid...No AssWisers Way
Do you quote "Ok." A something without thats not a sentence with a period, no!
You are a Respectful! Not an Asswiser
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Who are you to determine if a person is trying to look better than everyone else? If I wear nice shoes, does that mean I'm an asswiser that is trying to look better than everyone elses? There are infinite perspectives and there is no solid way of saying a person is trying to look better.
You also can't possible say something is a "good" or "bad" classification. For example, looking inward, "introverts", does not mean it is a bad thing. Just because one person does not like to be social or around others doesn't mean that's wrong. Being talkative or not is not something to label as something as good or bad, as you clearly are doing by classifying "asswiser" as bad, otherwise you wouldn't have put the word "ass" in it. Also, what you think as someone trying to make you/others look stupid might be a person trying to help you. If a person encourages a person to spell correctly and hopefully improve their grammar, why is that bad? By your logic, I could say it is "asswiser" to not receive help from others and not learn such things.
Bottomline is there is no real way you can classify anyone into three groups and say one is worse than the other. You cannot have all good personality traits, because there is no such thing is something being better than the other. An introvert enjoys work like computers and working in an office. An extrovert likes to be more sociable and may enjoy a job like salesman or working with other people.
In fact, you're putting down others by labeling them as "asswiser" and that's a bad thing to be apparently. So by what right do you have to even comment?
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I did not classify anyone, That was my opinion of what i thought he was, which was a good opinion. I only classified what an Asswiser was. And if you think everything i said an Asswiser was, are good things, not bad. than i guess its only opinion, but personally i think they were all bad things. Thinking inward is not a bad thing, but when you only think inward and don't care about anyone else, than i consider that a bad thing. I asked at the beginning of the Post "What do *You think you are or are closest to" So i am really not classifying/labeling anyone . And yeah i think that almost everyone thinks putting people down is a bad thing and so do i, If you don't, i guess its just opinion.
So at end of what i said, i should have said "In my Opinion" rather than just saying "You are". My mistake
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I guess I'm a "WiseAsser".
| Darker wrote on Wed, 09 August 2006 18:55 |
A WiseAsser is a person who thinks he or she Thinks/Wants/Tries or Perhaps is (Under certain point of views) To be better than others, braggers would be under the category.
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Is it not normal to want to be better than others?
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...they will put Periods at the end of things that are not even sentences.
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Speaking of which:
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And more oftenly not very considerate.
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But thanks anyways .
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| Re: The Three, Which one are you? [message #212539 is a reply to message #212492] |
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Well from what I've seen its not normal to want to be better than others. It is impossible for everyone to be better than everyone else, i don't want to be better, i just want to be happy, which i am .
But i understand that partly, there are allot of people that want to be better, unfortunately.
I know alot of people are corrupt, but than again there are alot of really good people, and i'm not trying to stop that lol. I just want to know everyones opinion, sorry if i offended anyone, which i do not think i did.
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| Re: The Three, Which one are you? [message #212542 is a reply to message #212539] |
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| Darker wrote on Wed, 09 August 2006 22:23 |
Well from what I've seen its not normal to want to be better than others. It is impossible for everyone to be better than everyone else, i don't want to be better, i just want to be happy, which i am .
But i understand that partly, there are allot of people that want to be better, unfortunately.
I know alot of people are corrupt, but than again there are alot of really good people, and i'm not trying to stop that lol. I just want to know everyones opinion, sorry if i offended anyone, which i do not think i did.
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Why settle for second place? Settling only teaches people not to give it their all because second place isn't bad. If you strive to be better than the next, then you're always going to try and improve yourself. We'll always be imperfect, but that's no excuse to refrain from actually trying.
The problem is when you start to think that you're better than everyone else, not wanting to be better.
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| j_ball430 wrote on Wed, 09 August 2006 22:28 |
| Darker wrote on Wed, 09 August 2006 22:23 |
Well from what I've seen its not normal to want to be better than others. It is impossible for everyone to be better than everyone else, i don't want to be better, i just want to be happy, which i am .
But i understand that partly, there are allot of people that want to be better, unfortunately.
I know alot of people are corrupt, but than again there are alot of really good people, and i'm not trying to stop that lol. I just want to know everyones opinion, sorry if i offended anyone, which i do not think i did.
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Why settle for second place? Settling only teaches people not to give it their all because second place isn't bad. If you strive to be better than the next, then you're always going to try and improve yourself. We'll always be imperfect, but that's no excuse to refrain from actually trying.
The problem is when you start to think that you're better than everyone else, not wanting to be better.
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| Re: The Three, Which one are you? [message #212544 is a reply to message #212514] |
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| Darker wrote on Wed, 09 August 2006 19:34 |
Everyones different mrpirate, some people read quicker and do not look closely at smaller things like that. But don't stress about it.
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Alot of this activity is coming from you, MrPirate. You know I'm not the Moee character, yet you have Implied that you think I might be him.
Not to mention, you will not tell us what you think you are closest to. Afraid to admit is also a way of the Asswiser.
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Just look at this. He was saying you reminded him of Moe? Is this bad? Why is it bad? What is he doing here that suggested he was making you look stupid?
Also, why is it the ways of the "asswiser" to not admit what you are "closest" too? You do not have any sort of qualifications to be putting traits into a system. Making it entirely invalid. A good system would be one that if a person was say, shy, might also enjoy working in an office, they might also try not to get into people's affairs that don't need their help. You cannot put traits into a good or bad category. An obsessive compulsive person could be considered bad because it involves a lot of unneccessary things, though, in a job like watching air traffic, scrutiny is of the utmost importance and thus it would be a good thing. Likewise, if a teacher tells you to do your homework and is failing you and corrects your grammar, that might be good. A random person on the internet can do the very same, but to you this is somehow different, why? If you're going to make something of a classification system, then do not include what is right or wrong or imply something is better than the other, seeing as how just one interpretation of something is so miniscule and doesn't mean anything.
So anyways, if you say someone is doing something that an asswiser would do, which is bad, you are putting them down. You don't have to specifically call them an asswiser to do it, you know. Thus, you are being, in a way, an asswiser yourself (by your definition) This however wouldn't mean I am being it. Since, all I am doing is pointing out to you is that by your own definition you are doing the exact same thing you think is bad. Just a statement and nothing more.
So if you would RATHER put up a classification for people who generally do good things or bad things, that's up to you, but this system of yours does neither. And I'm sure if you did do just the classification system for good-bad, that no one is ever pure good or pure bad, especially when there are different interpretations for each case. Would it be completely *bad* if a person wasn't willing to give up his life to save anothers? or even two other lives? Not everyone is capable of giving up their lives for such a cause. From an objective point of view, it would naturally be better that two people survived than one, so does this mean if a person was to be good, he would be willing to give up his life for two others? and if he wasn't that that would be bad?
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No. No at your classification system. Find one on the internet done by a psychologist. (Maybe introvert/extrovert) That might be something to ask. Though in most cases you'll probably find out that people are most likely introverts online. Though perhaps they once *were* introverts but are now extroverts. That might be something a little bit more solid than the foundations you are working on.
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edit: Not to mention mrpirate has a solid point, I mean you are talking about moe/sensitive when you just registered today. That obviously means you either had an account before, and for some unknown reason you decided to get this new one. Or, you were banned and this is your new account, which is much more likely because I don't see very many people suddenly making new accounts. It's also a good point to mention the fact that the terminology "asswiser" was mentioned by moe/sensitive, which, as far as I know, only moe/sensitive/and apparently YOU know what it is.
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It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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| Re: The Three, Which one are you? [message #212549 is a reply to message #212492] |
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I was not as serious about what i started in my earlier posts.
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Just look at this. He was saying you reminded him of Moe? Is this bad? Why is it bad? What is he doing here that suggested he was making you look stupid?
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I never said he was trying to make me look stupid.
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Also, why is it the ways of the "asswiser" to not admit what you are "closest" too?
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by "the way of" is like a symptom, doesn't really mean anything yet.
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You do not have any sort of qualifications to be putting traits into a system.
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They are not Traits being put into a system, only Opinions and Terms that I came up with , No one is to say what a "Good" system would be.
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So anyways, if you say someone is doing something that an asswiser would do, which is bad, you are putting them down. You don't have to specifically call them an asswiser to do it, you know. Thus, you are being, in a way, an asswiser yourself (by your definition) This however wouldn't mean I am being it. Since, all I am doing is pointing out to you is that by your own definition you are doing the exact same thing you think is bad. Just a statement and nothing more.
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I never said an an Asswiser was a bad thing, just because it has ass in it, does not mean anything. So there for, i would not be putting anyone down.
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So if you would RATHER put up a classification for people who generally do good things or bad things, that's up to you, but this system of yours does neither. And I'm sure if you did do just the classification system for good-bad, that no one is ever pure good or pure bad, especially when there are different interpretations for each case. Would it be completely *bad* if a person wasn't willing to give up his life to save anothers? or even two other lives? Not everyone is capable of giving up their lives for such a cause. From an objective point of view, it would naturally be better that two people survived than one, so does this mean if a person was to be good, he would be willing to give up his life for two others? and if he wasn't that that would be bad?
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I never said one was Good or bad, its just 2 typed of people that think differently, do different things, i guess in my opinion one is good and the other is bad, but thats just opinion. If you think an my definition of an Asswiser is a "Good person" Thats just opinion Lol.
Sorry if i made it out to be a classification system.
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| Re: The Three, Which one are you? [message #212550 is a reply to message #212549] |
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when you say "which one of these three are you" and only three are available none of which say "something different than what i posted" that is classifying. It'd be the same way if there was a vote saying are you gay or are you straight. Just not enough options and you aren't suggesting that there is more beyond the three, especially since you say "how come you aren't choosing one of the three?" Maybe because a person is something completely different? Or haven't you thought of that.
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Everyones different mrpirate, some people read quicker and do not look closely at smaller things like that. But don't stress about it.
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Alot of this activity is coming from you, MrPirate. You know I'm not the Moee character, yet you have Implied that you think I might be him.
Not to mention, you will not tell us what you think you are closest to. Afraid to admit is also a way of the Asswiser.
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when you say "this activity" you are saying he is doing the suggested (this being "people...try to make someone else look stupid" If he WASN'T doing this, you wouldn't have said he was doing it, would you? You also didn't say why being like moe is necessarily something negative.
when you say "the way of" you imply he is doing something that an asswiser would do. "An asswiser's way would do this. Thus, if you do this, too, you are in the way of an asswiser"
you imply that asswiser is bad, just by the name. Yes, having the word ass, and then adding wiser on it, implies you are saying it is a bad thing. If I called you a fuckwit, fuckwit, are you going to think it may not be an insult? Even so, you also imply being an asswiser is bad because you say in your own opinions so and so is bad, and you also say that this so and so is apparently the ways of an asswiser, so yes, you are very much implying asswiser as being bad.
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Oh I just reread I guess at some point someone said asswiser instead of the original "wiseasser" you put in. Which would go with being a wiseass, which is a bad thing globally. So uh, yeah...
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when you say "which one of these three are you" and only three are available none of which say "something different than what i posted" that is classifying. It'd be the same way if there was a vote saying are you gay or are you straight. Just not enough options and you aren't suggesting that there is more beyond the three, especially since you say "how come you aren't choosing one of the three?" Maybe because a person is something completely different? Or haven't you thought of that.
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After i said "which one of these three are you" I said "Or are you closest to" I did consider the fact that there was only three options, so i put that.
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when you say "this activity" you are saying he is doing the suggested (this being "people...try to make someone else look stupid" If he WASN'T doing this, you wouldn't have said he was doing it, would you? You also didn't say why being like moe is necessarily something negative.
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Well, moe did post alot of strange things....not to be mean or anything lol, but don't forget, in a way moee is an artificial character. You cannot hurt one.
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when you say "the way of" you imply he is doing something that an asswiser would do. "An asswiser's way would do this. Thus, if you do this, too, you are in the way of an asswiser"
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I was not Implying that at all lol
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you imply that asswiser is bad, just by the name. Yes, having the word ass, and then adding wiser on it, implies you are saying it is a bad thing. If I called you a fuckwit, fuckwit, are you going to think it may not be an insult? Even so, you also imply being an asswiser is bad because you say in your own opinions so and so is bad, and you also say that this so and so is apparently the ways of an asswiser, so yes, you are very much implying asswiser as being bad.
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Yes but only in my opinion is an Asswiser "Bad" But who does not think these type of people are bad? Everyone has had issues with these type of people I'm sure. and Alot of people have said they think they are Asswisers but probably are not.
Z310 from my point of view is not an Asswiser at all, he is very considerate.
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| z310 wrote on Thu, 10 August 2006 02:04 |
Hmm. I actually thought he was help-linux on a different IP.
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I thought so too.
What if you aren't one of the 3? Then you're just left out? ;(
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| Ralphzehunter wrote on Thu, 10 August 2006 00:43 |
| z310 wrote on Thu, 10 August 2006 02:04 |
Hmm. I actually thought he was help-linux on a different IP.
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I thought so too.
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Nah. It is just becoming more common on these forums to get these weird new registered users who steal other peoples Avatars.
David Anderson
Founder, Software Consultant
DCOM Productions
Microsoft Partner (MSP)
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