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Re: New Computer Research [message #203803 is a reply to message #203589] Wed, 14 June 2006 04:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jaspah wrote on Tue, 13 June 2006 00:27

Buy one of those fancy new NVidia BFG Geforce 7950 GX2's. That will last quite a while.

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Re: New Computer Research [message #203804 is a reply to message #203573] Wed, 14 June 2006 04:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you already have a woman, then it should be easy to spend it on her. Tell her you got 500 $ and sher has 2 hours to spend it, I'm sure she'll make it! Women have many qualities but spending money must be one of their greatest In Love

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Re: New Computer Research [message #203806 is a reply to message #203573] Wed, 14 June 2006 04:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: New Computer Research [message #203807 is a reply to message #203573] Wed, 14 June 2006 04:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sound Cards are starting to outlive our usefulness. They are usually for enthusiasts or people who have complex sound systems.

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Re: New Computer Research [message #203817 is a reply to message #203573] Wed, 14 June 2006 06:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i have a windows 98 computer new just bought it 5 years ago and its workin good it can---t run renegade but its great for pacman and also ill sell 8it to you for only $2500.00 THATS A BARGAIN!
Re: New Computer Research [message #203821 is a reply to message #203817] Wed, 14 June 2006 06:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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spartan 117-001 wrote on Wed, 14 June 2006 09:13

i have a windows 98 computer new just bought it 5 years ago and its workin good it can---t run renegade but its great for pacman and also ill sell 8it to you for only $2500.00 THATS A BARGAIN!

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Re: New Computer Research [message #203871 is a reply to message #203573] Wed, 14 June 2006 10:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think if you put that PC together you will be pretty happy. Try and save a bit left over for when those DX10 cards come out. Then get one.

If you want help picking out a good DX9 card, I have a set just in mind for you.

That 6800XT will run Battlefield 2 on the maximum settings at around 50-60 FPS. I'm getting one myself, seeing as it's only 79.00 after mail in rebates.


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Re: New Computer Research [message #203872 is a reply to message #203871] Wed, 14 June 2006 10:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EXdeath wrote on Wed, 14 June 2006 13:54

I think if you put that PC together you will be pretty happy. Try and save a bit left over for when those DX10 cards come out. Then get one.

If you want help picking out a good DX9 card, I have a set just in mind for you.

That 6800XT will run Battlefield 2 on the maximum settings at around 50-60 FPS. I'm getting one myself, seeing as it's only 79.00 after mail in rebates.


Probably not, my 7800GT has issues with BF2, but that has to do with only having a 450w Power Supply and 4 HDDs. I say he would probably get max on everything but no AA and Medium Textures.

Go with my rig, you'll be satisfied for quite awhile.


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Re: New Computer Research [message #203881 is a reply to message #203793] Wed, 14 June 2006 12:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Doitle wrote on Wed, 14 June 2006 02:07

No cars at college either, freshman and sophmores are not allowed to drive because they aren't allowed to leave campus.


What the hell, I thought you were going to college. Is the campus located on Alcatraz?


Re: New Computer Research [message #203885 is a reply to message #203573] Wed, 14 June 2006 13:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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To Mision: It's part of the stupid "WE MAKE PEOPLE - MWAHAHA LIEK FRANKENSTEIN STILE" facet of college. It's not about education it's about making hip buzz-word using young adults. They want you to be bored on campus so you are forced to join clubs. Thus, they don't let you leave campus freshman or sophmore years. I'm going to Bradley University by the way if any of you know of it.

To Goztow: she won't spend money, I have a hard enough time as it is getting her to let me buy her stuff.

To Dark Demin: I do have a few complex sound systems lol... Also that power supply in the setup you provided is outrageous o_O 500$!? Are you sure that's neccessary if I only run a single 7950?

To Spartan: Emphatic No

To Exdeath: I'm trying to find reveiws and things about that 6800XT. So far that system looks most likely to be the choice.



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Re: New Computer Research [message #203890 is a reply to message #203573] Wed, 14 June 2006 14:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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follow Exdeath's advice and get the 6800XT for now until DX10 comes out. don't listen to everyone else who says to get the best one that's out.

As for a sound card, just get this or something: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E168291021 76

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Re: New Computer Research [message #203891 is a reply to message #203885] Wed, 14 June 2006 14:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Doitle wrote on Wed, 14 June 2006 16:02


To Dark Demin: I do have a few complex sound systems lol... Also that power supply in the setup you provided is outrageous o_O 500$!? Are you sure that's neccessary if I only run a single 7950?



It was recommended in the 7950GX2's comments by several people. You have to think about HDDs, Fans, Mobo, and CPU Power.


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Re: New Computer Research [message #203896 is a reply to message #203573] Wed, 14 June 2006 15:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Personally, I think it would be a much better idea to wait for Intel's Core 2 (Conroe). Benchmarks look amazing so far.
Re: New Computer Research [message #203911 is a reply to message #203573] Wed, 14 June 2006 21:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Intel has a tendency to exagerate.

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Re: New Computer Research [message #203922 is a reply to message #203891] Thu, 15 June 2006 01:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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DarkDemin wrote on Wed, 14 June 2006 16:32

Doitle wrote on Wed, 14 June 2006 16:02


To Dark Demin: I do have a few complex sound systems lol... Also that power supply in the setup you provided is outrageous o_O 500$!? Are you sure that's neccessary if I only run a single 7950?



It was recommended in the 7950GX2's comments by several people. You have to think about HDDs, Fans, Mobo, and CPU Power.


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Demin you are crazy! 2400 bucks!
2400 bucks! doesn't include a single HDD, when he needs two or three. No operating system, or any other software. No sound card or speakers. No keyboard, mouse, or game pad. No Arctic Silver, water cooling system or chip set fans. No case fans or memory fans. No optical drive or floppy drive. A floppy drive is only 8 bucks. Hardly worth excluding when you may use it to flash your BIOS. No blank media, no headphones, no disco ball with flashing neon lights. No reach around, hell not even a kiss on the cheek.
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Re: New Computer Research [message #203939 is a reply to message #203573] Thu, 15 June 2006 05:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sorry I'm just used to having all that stuff.

I have currently:

3 Western Digital 80gb HDDs
1 Maxtor 60gb HDD
1 Seagate 120 External HDD
3 80mm Case Fans
2 120mm Case Fans

I have a Copy of XP Pro with a VLK liscense so I never have to worry about installing it on several machines. I assumed that Doitle would just want to upgrade what he has now. All he has to do if he really wants HDDs is get a bunch of 80s like I have from Best Buy when they have them on Rebate sale for $19.99 then RAID them. Unless he is going to overclock that AM2 to the extreme the basic fan that AMD ships with it will do just fine and that Thermaltake case will provide maximum cooling. I suggest the 800w powersupply for maximum stability. I plan on ordering one myself when I scrape together the cash for the same box.


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Re: New Computer Research [message #203985 is a reply to message #203573] Thu, 15 June 2006 10:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dual core processors are really good, for CAD systems and movie production and editing. Not so much for gaming.

Re: New Computer Research [message #203988 is a reply to message #203573] Thu, 15 June 2006 11:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I do CAD work, 3d modeling and rendering, and movie composition... lol What would be the next card up from that 6800XT? It's only 79.00$ but is there anything in the 150$ range that could still be a placeholder card?

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Re: New Computer Research [message #204003 is a reply to message #203573] Thu, 15 June 2006 12:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah, probably a 7600GT. I think I saw one on Newegg for $150.

I really wish I had a dual core. I do so much video editing and encoding it's crazy.

EDIT: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E168141302 83

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Re: New Computer Research [message #204006 is a reply to message #203807] Thu, 15 June 2006 12:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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DarkDemin wrote on Wed, 14 June 2006 07:37

Sound Cards are starting to outlive our usefulness. They are usually for enthusiasts or people who have complex sound systems.



Believe me, the difference between sound coming from an integrated board chip and a sound card is great.

As for Icedog's suggestion, that is worse than integrated.

XtremeMusic and Audigy, thanks (I favor XtremeMusic).


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Re: New Computer Research [message #204009 is a reply to message #203573] Thu, 15 June 2006 13:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This may be true, but it also loads the system and may cause issues like low FPS. Some integrated sound like DFI LanParty actually have a sound card to handle the processing. If your board does not have an actual card processing the sound purchase one. Even if you only spend 15 bucs on a generic card.
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Re: New Computer Research [message #204016 is a reply to message #203573] Thu, 15 June 2006 14:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm not oblivious about sound cards. I know what is good and what isn't, and I know that mine isn't that bad. I had to buy it because my integrated sound card was fucking shit. yes, I said it, it was fucking shit. that means integrated sound cards aren't worse than the SB Live.
Re: New Computer Research [message #204022 is a reply to message #203573] Thu, 15 June 2006 14:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Guys guys just don't get all hot under the collar over this. It's just a soundcard. I'm big on sound and I like to mess with other equipment hooked up to my computer. I will not be getting integrated sound just on principle... lol Focus more on the videocard / processor side as that's what has really got me tripped up. Oh, mobos too, not much talk of mobos as of yet.

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Re: New Computer Research [message #204026 is a reply to message #203573] Thu, 15 June 2006 14:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Asus is a real good board, that you can overclock without being the biggest geek in your town. It's OEM settings will be quicker than the DFI, wich needs more user interaction to get the best performance. Plus it has a model with a heat pipe for cooling the chipset. It's cool looking and it's more quiet, but it has to be inside the case like a normal board (no inverting or laying the board on it's side).

DFI has a million settings you can tweak, and can push 3.5v to the RAM, more voltage than it can handle without active cooling. OCZ XV (X-tream Voltage) will take 3.3v without voiding the warranty (I think, but it needs a fan over 3.1v IMO). I don't believe there is another board that can deliver as much juice without a booster, and that takes up a memory slot. And it should have more potential speed than other boards.

I don't recommend the XV series of memory. While it is very fast with tight timings. Fun to change the jumper block and shoot 3.3v to, it is only good if it can get high voltage. This limits the memory to DFI boards, or a purchase of a booster. I wish I could drop $75 on a board with AGP interface and let my ATI card stretch it's legs, but I'm to cheap to buy memory. If I had TCCD or other fast low voltage memory I could just use it as well. I will survive.

I'm not sure what Gigabit has to offer, but I bet it's good. Stay away from MSI. The stock fan on any processor is a no no. Also, there is something about a clearance issue with the AM2 processor and HSF.

Study the forum of the board you go with for known issues that may kill memory modules. You may need to flash the BIOS when you set up the rig.
If you build a whole new computer, you will fire it up, let it POST and possibly flash the BIOS before you ever open the OS to install. Otherwise you risk corrupting the install of windows XP Pro. That you can purchase as the OEM for a reduced price, probably 100 bucks.


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Re: New Computer Research [message #204037 is a reply to message #203573] Thu, 15 June 2006 16:05 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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I have a gigabit mobo right now, and as far as I can tell it's been fine. Who knows though... It's hard to tell, any crashes or things I've gotten over the years could have been caused by the mobo without me knowing. I don't plan on doing any kind of crazy voltage modding memory or anything. I get so worried about doing stuff like that... You shoulda seen me replacing the HSF on my Athlon XP2100+ here. I was soaked, I had to take my shirt off I was sweating so bad because I was terrifyed I was about to break the chip. It was the most terrifying thing I've done in my life. And soon I'll be doing it again... but this time with a much more expensive processor... :/ Eeep.

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