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I think you'll get banned for that as well. (I wouldn't, but someone else might)
You know where it is, Dover.
Cunin's point is: Why is RenForums not kept neutral of this debate (IE, why was there a filter etc) - Yes, Crimson may pay the bills, but this needs to be an open, public place.
Having said that, posting private information is a no-go area.
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| Re: off topic [message #398689 is a reply to message #398680] |
Thu, 20 August 2009 13:52 |
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| CarrierII wrote on Thu, 20 August 2009 22:17 |
Cunin's point is: Why is RenForums not kept neutral of this debate (IE, why was there a filter etc) - Yes, Crimson may pay the bills, but this needs to be an open, public place.
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And that is exactly what this has not been at all for Exodus from the beginning. Instead, it was just N00bstories-BIASED in regards to blocking the PM's, and deleting ANY thread regarding it, with or without private information.
| nikki6ixx wrote on Fri, 08 May 2009 19:47 |
Every so often, I get this positive feeling that humanity can somehow, possibly attain pure awesomeness, and enlightenment, and that there is light at the end of the road for us all. However, I only need to go to the latest HUD thread at RenForums to remind me of how dumb I was for thinking such stupid things.
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| Re: off topic [message #398713 is a reply to message #397679] |
Thu, 20 August 2009 16:42 |
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TBH you're lucky I even let you post a link to your community's website at all considering you have made zero efforts to remove any confidential leaked information in question from being linked to on your site. It's not all that different from blocking a link to a site that has links to illegal downloads of Renegade and other games.
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| Re: off topic [message #398735 is a reply to message #398733] |
Thu, 20 August 2009 19:18 |
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| Crimson wrote on Thu, 20 August 2009 18:42 |
TBH you're lucky I even let you post a link to your community's website at all considering you have made zero efforts to remove any confidential leaked information in question from being linked to on your site. It's not all that different from blocking a link to a site that has links to illegal downloads of Renegade and other games.
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well there are links for renegade iso here... (plus other stuff that can help cheaters too)
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| Re: off topic [message #398753 is a reply to message #398735] |
Thu, 20 August 2009 21:51 |
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| Cunin wrote on Thu, 20 August 2009 19:18 |
| Crimson wrote on Thu, 20 August 2009 18:42 |
TBH you're lucky I even let you post a link to your community's website at all considering you have made zero efforts to remove any confidential leaked information in question from being linked to on your site. It's not all that different from blocking a link to a site that has links to illegal downloads of Renegade and other games.
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well there are links for renegade iso here... (plus other stuff that can help cheaters too)
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No, we're pretty good at getting rid of those links. If we missed something, you should utilize the "report message" link so a moderator can take a look at it.
| liquidv2 wrote on Thu, 20 August 2009 21:30 |
i'd like to think that the top person representing us to EA is not an angry, spiteful person...but unfortunately it is not the case
the way this entire thing was handled makes me wonder about quite a few things
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One man's "angry and spiteful" is another man's "firm, but fair". Eye of the beholder and all. Thank you for sharing.
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| Re: off topic [message #398811 is a reply to message #398713] |
Fri, 21 August 2009 08:38 |
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| Crimson wrote on Fri, 21 August 2009 01:42 |
TBH you're lucky I even let you post a link to your community's website at all considering you have made zero efforts to remove any confidential leaked information in question from being linked to on your site. It's not all that different from blocking a link to a site that has links to illegal downloads of Renegade and other games.
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Where does the chain stop though? I am fairly sure that there are video clips on youtube aswell with music that has not been authorized to be there! Block youtube. And, while your at it, I heard that that also applies to Google Video! And guess what.. Digg probably has links aswell to other websites with warez, though I don't see you blocking those websites either.
If you're going to go that way, then do it properly. Just because we choose to run our forums in a different way then you would, and enforce rules differently (Even if that may affect you and your community), then why would you block only ours, and not the websites that I listed above?
There has been no link to private information posted DIRECTLY, nor do I see a direct link to a thread/post on our forums that has that in them, because if that was the case, then I would understand, though I see no such thing has happened, and especially not from Exodus representatives.
| nikki6ixx wrote on Fri, 08 May 2009 19:47 |
Every so often, I get this positive feeling that humanity can somehow, possibly attain pure awesomeness, and enlightenment, and that there is light at the end of the road for us all. However, I only need to go to the latest HUD thread at RenForums to remind me of how dumb I was for thinking such stupid things.
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| Re: off topic [message #398816 is a reply to message #398713] |
Fri, 21 August 2009 08:50 |
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| Crimson wrote on Fri, 21 August 2009 00:42 |
TBH you're lucky I even let you post a link to your community's website at all considering you have made zero efforts to remove any confidential leaked information in question from being linked to on your site. It's not all that different from blocking a link to a site that has links to illegal downloads of Renegade and other games.
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That'd be like saying you can't link to google as people could use it to search for porn, illegal downloads....well, loads of things this forum has banned from being linked.
edit: Fuck! i should really have read the post above mine before posting.
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| Re: off topic [message #398824 is a reply to message #398816] |
Fri, 21 August 2009 09:39 |
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| futura83 wrote on Fri, 21 August 2009 17:50 |
| Crimson wrote on Fri, 21 August 2009 00:42 |
TBH you're lucky I even let you post a link to your community's website at all considering you have made zero efforts to remove any confidential leaked information in question from being linked to on your site. It's not all that different from blocking a link to a site that has links to illegal downloads of Renegade and other games.
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That'd be like saying you can't link to google as people could use it to search for porn, illegal downloads....well, loads of things this forum has banned from being linked.
edit: Fuck! i should really have read the post above mine before posting.
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I can't believe I forgot google out of that list, but lets add that aswell. 
| nikki6ixx wrote on Fri, 08 May 2009 19:47 |
Every so often, I get this positive feeling that humanity can somehow, possibly attain pure awesomeness, and enlightenment, and that there is light at the end of the road for us all. However, I only need to go to the latest HUD thread at RenForums to remind me of how dumb I was for thinking such stupid things.
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| Re: off topic [message #398827 is a reply to message #397679] |
Fri, 21 August 2009 10:57 |
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Yeah, that's the spirit guys. Let's just get rid of all the rules and let people post whatever they want! Porn, dead mangled corpses, how to make bombs, go nuts!
(That was sarcasm, just for the record.)
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| Re: off topic [message #398828 is a reply to message #398827] |
Fri, 21 August 2009 11:12 |
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| Crimson wrote on Fri, 21 August 2009 13:57 |
Yeah, that's the spirit guys. Let's just get rid of all the rules and let people post whatever they want! Porn, dead mangled corpses, how to make bombs, go nuts!
(That was sarcasm, just for the record.)
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Really? Because I have some really awesome tutorials on how to make IED's out of mangled prostitute corpses.
yeah
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| Re: off topic [message #398829 is a reply to message #398827] |
Fri, 21 August 2009 11:38 |
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| Crimson wrote on Fri, 21 August 2009 19:57 |
Yeah, that's the spirit guys. Let's just get rid of all the rules and let people post whatever they want! Porn, dead mangled corpses, how to make bombs, go nuts!
(That was sarcasm, just for the record.)
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No, I would actually prohibit things like that to be posted and remove it, but it would be kind of odd to remove posts that contains a link to the explaination behind the split that caused the community to be created... correct?
Also, I still see that I can link to google, maybe you'll want to remove that aswell? As it is indexing our forum right now, it might also index the private information!
Also, way to compare "private information" to pictures of "dead mangled corpses", you're exaggerating SLIGHTLY.
| nikki6ixx wrote on Fri, 08 May 2009 19:47 |
Every so often, I get this positive feeling that humanity can somehow, possibly attain pure awesomeness, and enlightenment, and that there is light at the end of the road for us all. However, I only need to go to the latest HUD thread at RenForums to remind me of how dumb I was for thinking such stupid things.
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| Re: off topic [message #398830 is a reply to message #397679] |
Fri, 21 August 2009 11:52 |
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I'm starting to see a trend here...most of you feel that Crimson is biased towards her community, or you feel that the community should be able to make more decisions on how renforums is ran. Unfortunately this domain is registered to Crimson. EA no longer owns this domain and is considered like a fan site, and is owned by Crimson. Crimson can do whatever she wants and ban any other community or persons from this forum since she owns it. I'm not sure why some of you feel like you are entitled to something when this isn't your website, but Crimsons. If Crimson wants to ban everyone and shut down this website, she can.
I find it hilarious that all of you are arguing thinking that you were wronged and feel renforums is discriminating or being biased. If crimson wants to use RenForums to promote n00bstories, then she can since she owns this forum and domain. You, or EA do not own/operate this forum and Crimson can do whatever she wants with it.
If I owned this forum and all of you came into MY forum and attacked me the way you attack Crimson or came to just start trouble, I would simply just ban you since it's MY forum.
NOTE: If there was a contract signed between EA and Crimson in regards of this forum being ran a certain way, then I take back my words. Otherwise get over it people, it isn't your forum.
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| Re: off topic [message #398833 is a reply to message #398830] |
Fri, 21 August 2009 12:03 |
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| Speedy059 wrote on Fri, 21 August 2009 19:52 |
I'm starting to see a trend here...most of you feel that Crimson is biased towards her community, or you feel that the community should be able to make more decisions on how renforums is ran. Unfortunately this domain is registered to Crimson. EA no longer owns this domain and is considered like a fan site, and is owned by Crimson. Crimson can do whatever she wants and ban any other community or persons from this forum since she owns it. I'm not sure why some of you feel like you are entitled to something when this isn't your website, but Crimsons. If Crimson wants to ban everyone and shut down this website, she can.
I find it hilarious that all of you are arguing thinking that you were wronged and feel renforums is discriminating or being biased. If crimson wants to use RenForums to promote n00bstories, then she can since she owns this forum and domain. You, or EA do not own/operate this forum and Crimson can do whatever she wants with it.
If I owned this forum and all of you came into MY forum and attacked me the way you attack Crimson or came to just start trouble, I would simply just ban you since it's MY forum.
NOTE: If there was a contract signed between EA and Crimson in regards of this forum being ran a certain way, then I take back my words. Otherwise get over it people, it isn't your forum.
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While i'm not entirely sure whether there was one or not, there is bound to have been some sort of agreement between them.
At the very least, EA will be letting her call these the 'official' forums.
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| Re: off topic [message #398852 is a reply to message #397679] |
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Speed is completely right and it makes me lol that people can't see through that. The idea that it's the "Official Renegade Forums" can't be removed unless EA themselves made a forum declaring it the Official Renegade Forums, which I can't ever see happening.
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| Re: off topic [message #398855 is a reply to message #397679] |
Fri, 21 August 2009 14:35 |
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EA never owned this domain. The RenegadeForums.com domain is owned by me and was always owned by me. RenForums.com was purchased by someone else who was going to "compete" with me but once Westwood agreed that I should be responsible for them, they transferred the domain to me. They, in fact, only owned it for a few days, maybe a week.
EA and I have NO contract whatsoever, nor did I have any such contract with Westwood.
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VirtualTed just sent you (Christine Korza) a Private Message at Renegade Public Forums.
You are being notified because you are have instructed us to send you a notification each time someone sends you a private message. You can disable this automatic notification in your profile settings on the board.
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I like the URL "renegadeforums.com", as well as your persistence in the community. I think you're the best bet for the renegade community moving forward. How fast can you get the URL "http://www.renegadeforums.com" operational and pointing to your message boards?
Please respond to me via *censored*.
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The funny thing is, Westwood's intent was just for me to make the n00bstories.com forums the official ones for Renegade. However, I felt it was in the best interest of the community to make a separate forum. So, Blazer and I spent the better part of 2 days to use a script made by the late DOM_TreyD to migrate the majority of the posts from the Westwood-hosted forum over to a new one that I skinned to look like Westwood's UBB Forum. We were not able to have the user accounts because of legal reasons, but since the forum we set up look so much like "home", we got hundreds of signups in the first few days and never looked back.
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| Re: off topic [message #398871 is a reply to message #398848] |
Fri, 21 August 2009 15:55 |
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| grant89uk wrote on Fri, 21 August 2009 16:52 |
EA still have the rights to "renegade" thus if they decided this was no longer the official forums then it could no longer be called that.
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Sorry, but that is wishful thinking. I think you'll have your eyes opened more when you take Business Law 101 in college. Then you'll realize how dumb all these posts are.
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| Re: off topic [message #398872 is a reply to message #398871] |
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| Speedy059 wrote on Fri, 21 August 2009 17:55 |
| grant89uk wrote on Fri, 21 August 2009 16:52 |
EA still have the rights to "renegade" thus if they decided this was no longer the official forums then it could no longer be called that.
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Sorry, but that is wishful thinking. I think you'll have your eyes opened more when you take Business Law 101 in college. Then you'll realize how dumb all these posts are.
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k, inform me, if the title of the forums goes under the name Official renegade forums, it should mean that any community with good intentions should be able to come here and share indiscriminately as long as they don't post private information and follow the other rules. wouldnt that be considered a form of fraud if its advertised as the official forum but some people that haven't broken the rules are getting discriminated against?
and sorry, my Business Law 101 is a little foggy, took it in fall of 06
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Then again, banning anyone for anything automatically makes you a biased prick who shouldn't be a moderator.
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lol
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| Re: off topic [message #398875 is a reply to message #398872] |
Fri, 21 August 2009 16:31 |
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| masterkna wrote on Fri, 21 August 2009 19:09 |
| Speedy059 wrote on Fri, 21 August 2009 17:55 |
Sorry, but that is wishful thinking. I think you'll have your eyes opened more when you take Business Law 101 in college. Then you'll realize how dumb all these posts are.
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k, inform me, if the title of the forums goes under the name Official renegade forums, it should mean that any community with good intentions should be able to come here and share indiscriminately as long as they don't post private information and follow the other rules. wouldnt that be considered a form of fraud if its advertised as the official forum but some people that haven't broken the rules are getting discriminated against?
and sorry, my Business Law 101 is a little foggy, took it in fall of 06
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I do agree with everything except the "fraud" part which I believe to be an overstatement
There is no crime in calling a forum "official" when there is no alternative. The official is merely just an advertising gimmick and nothing more. No where on these forums does any moderator, or the owner, act as if they are representing EA directly. Until I see that, then I think the accusations against these forums are still invalid.
I don't quite understand why people are trying to extort, and manipulate, Crimson in trying to get what they want. Your rights to advertise or even post on here is out of the sole courtesy of Crimson since she owns it.
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