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Re: Some Bullshit I would Like to Clear [message #221140 is a reply to message #217656] |
Fri, 22 September 2006 07:17 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
jschultz9
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He uses iccy to portray iccytouch, because he isnt creative enough to get his own names, just like he uses Animosity, which he took from [NE]Animosity
Now on to the hacking accusations.
I had OP status in that channel because you set me as up one. when we were "partners".But like fl00d3d I decided that was a horrible idea after just a short period of time. Ive never had ircop status on n00bstories, nor will I ever.
So if I banned everyone except you and me, Then why didn't you remove the invite only mode and delete the bans. Prolly cuz you werent smart enough to setup WOLSPY, and I had to walk you through that, therefore you prolly werent smart enough to change channel modes.
Also, I didnt make your "bots" leave your channel, The RCServ1 or whatever it is, was gone when I came in.
Why not post under teh-pwnerer, or did it get banned for trying to impersonate me on these forums.
Also the accusation that I stole money from YOU and your community, is an out right lie. You told bbence, who in turn told j_balla that I took your donation money, which I would like to see some paypal logs of, which you can kindly post on these forums.
Also, I didnt take over your server boxes. I simply changed the remote desktop passwords and removed some files. Once I was done removing the files,I told you what the passwords were, which I had changed them all to fuckofftp. There was no hacking done idiot. I did not gain access to your boxes by force, nor did I illegally gain access by stealing your passwords, If need be, I can produce the logs of you giving my numerous passwords to the boxes and to the main server matrix account at the planet.
Make sure you can back up your accusations, You wanna run your community in peace, then I suggest you stop telling people shit that didnt happen.
Oh yea, and I didnt hack your hosting forums either, I simply shut them down, which I also had admin rights on those forums. Therefore, you got owned, not hacked n00b.
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Re: Some Bullshit I would Like to Clear [message #221156 is a reply to message #221140] |
Fri, 22 September 2006 08:07 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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jschultz9 wrote on Fri, 22 September 2006 10:17 | He uses iccy to portray iccytouch, because he isnt creative enough to get his own names, just like he uses Animosity, which he took from [NE]Animosity
Now on to the hacking accusations.
I had OP status in that channel because you set me as up one. when we were "partners".But like fl00d3d I decided that was a horrible idea after just a short period of time. Ive never had ircop status on n00bstories, nor will I ever.
So if I banned everyone except you and me, Then why didn't you remove the invite only mode and delete the bans. Prolly cuz you werent smart enough to setup WOLSPY, and I had to walk you through that, therefore you prolly werent smart enough to change channel modes.
Also, I didnt make your "bots" leave your channel, The RCServ1 or whatever it is, was gone when I came in.
Why not post under teh-pwnerer, or did it get banned for trying to impersonate me on these forums.
Also the accusation that I stole money from YOU and your community, is an out right lie. You told bbence, who in turn told j_balla that I took your donation money, which I would like to see some paypal logs of, which you can kindly post on these forums.
Also, I didnt take over your server boxes. I simply changed the remote desktop passwords and removed some files. Once I was done removing the files,I told you what the passwords were, which I had changed them all to fuckofftp. There was no hacking done idiot. I did not gain access to your boxes by force, nor did I illegally gain access by stealing your passwords, If need be, I can produce the logs of you giving my numerous passwords to the boxes and to the main server matrix account at the planet.
Make sure you can back up your accusations, You wanna run your community in peace, then I suggest you stop telling people shit that didnt happen.
Oh yea, and I didnt hack your hosting forums either, I simply shut them down, which I also had admin rights on those forums. Therefore, you got owned, not hacked n00b.
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You know... flooding a channel doesn't really help your situation out, either.
whoa.
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Re: Some Bullshit I would Like to Clear [message #221157 is a reply to message #217656] |
Fri, 22 September 2006 08:12 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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Can we just ban this loser already? Err, I mean - again?
First he starts this thread, loses his argument by means of the opposing side's proof, then impersonates another forum user and gets banned. Now he's back under a different name and still stirring things up - and continuing to lie even more.
Just before I left RenCorner I did a similar thing with IRC. I was the channel owner and I kicked everyone out and told him to find a new server. This was on n00bstories IRC, btw. In the situation with Justin, he was offered a position as "equal" and given many accesses. So if it was his channel or if he had the authority to close the channel, what has he done wrong? Find somewhere else.
The kid is busy with school, has no time to run his server ... so he hands it off to a customer (Justin, at the time) and a convicted cheater (bbence/Ace/W0lfgang - all the same guy). Then when one of them leaves, he feels the heat and decides he's going to stir up trouble by impersonating Jusin here. Gets banned. Days later he comes back to attempt to reclaim some sort of justifications?
BAN, PLEASE!
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Re: Some Bullshit I would Like to Clear [message #221185 is a reply to message #217656] |
Fri, 22 September 2006 10:05 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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j_ball430, first you send me Pm's telling me what this guy is doing, PMing you in st0rm irc about me, then you come here and talk about me being banned?
I did not try to impersonate anyone on these forums, which is why dumb ass was banned.
I do have a bad rep,which I deal with everyday, but I have also cleaned up my act, theres several people that will agree with that also. Ive been speaking with Crimson on a regular basis, all very civil conversations. She has given me another chance, so why dont you do the same.
Lets not turn this into a jschultz9 bashing thread, if you want that create one.
Lets keep it on the subject at hand, which is TP.
With false accusations of stuff, such as hacking his boxes, and so on. His irc channel got fl00ded with "lol" "rencorner is dying" or something to that effect. Which no one but his staff seen, which is something they already know.
But for this guy to come on here, try to impersonate me, to stir shit. Then to bring accusations against me, after he has ripped nightmas website template, more or less ripped his hosting name "neronhost.com" which is VERY similar to neronhosting.com
Then makes his next generation hosting services,"also nightma12 theme"
So theres no comparing me to this kid.
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Re: Some Bullshit I would Like to Clear [message #221195 is a reply to message #217656] |
Fri, 22 September 2006 11:47 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
Iccy
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I am trying to run my community in peace. Then I have sm0ke in my channel spamming the fuck out if it. sm0ke I don't come into your channel and do that, you shouldn't do that to me. Lets just leave everything like it is. Ban me for all I care, I just want to run my community / business in peace. NeronHosting has been dead for 8 months, or so, so I don't care. NeronHost is mine, and the template looks nothing like ao's, I never even offered next generation, yes it was on the site, no i never made a profit, and no one was interested in it. Please just leave me alone.
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Re: Some Bullshit I would Like to Clear [message #221199 is a reply to message #221195] |
Fri, 22 September 2006 11:53 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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Iccy wrote on Fri, 22 September 2006 14:47 | I am trying to run my community in peace. Then I have sm0ke in my channel spamming the fuck out if it. sm0ke I don't come into your channel and do that, you shouldn't do that to me. Lets just leave everything like it is. Ban me for all I care, I just want to run my community / business in peace. NeronHosting has been dead for 8 months, or so, so I don't care. NeronHost is mine, and the template looks nothing like ao's, I never even offered next generation, yes it was on the site, no i never made a profit, and no one was interested in it. Please just leave me alone.
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I find it funny how the tides have turned. You create this thread to attack others, and now you're running with your tail tucked between your legs because you've been exposed to be an immature little kid with no knowledge of what the fuck he's doing.
whoa.
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Re: Some Bullshit I would Like to Clear [message #221206 is a reply to message #217656] |
Fri, 22 September 2006 12:05 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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Yes I do realize that the thread I have created has been focusing on attacking me instead of the people that were supposted to be pointed out.
But I just don't realize why when people(A) leave people(B) they have to attack (B) just to make a ongoing statement. A statement that shows how (A) is powerful in their knowledge of DoS'ing people...
As for fl00d3d saying they should ban me. The current topic we are talking about has NOTHING to do with you. So but off.
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Re: Some Bullshit I would Like to Clear [message #221222 is a reply to message #221195] |
Fri, 22 September 2006 13:06 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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Iccy wrote on Fri, 22 September 2006 13:47 | I am trying to run my community in peace. Then I have sm0ke in my channel spamming the fuck out if it. sm0ke I don't come into your channel and do that, you shouldn't do that to me. Lets just leave everything like it is. Ban me for all I care, I just want to run my community / business in peace. NeronHosting has been dead for 8 months, or so, so I don't care. NeronHost is mine, and the template looks nothing like ao's, I never even offered next generation, yes it was on the site, no i never made a profit, and no one was interested in it. Please just leave me alone.
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NeronHost? omg! u even ripped off your company name!!
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Re: Some Bullshit I would Like to Clear [message #221230 is a reply to message #217656] |
Fri, 22 September 2006 13:21 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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Iccy wrote on Fri, 22 September 2006 15:05 |
As for fl00d3d saying they should ban me. The current topic we are talking about has NOTHING to do with you. So but off.
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You created this thread ABOUT ME. So it has EVERYTHING to do with me. Don't tell me to butt off.
Remove the ToS that you have on http://www.neronhost.com/tos.html immediately or face legal action. You want to play with the big boys, we will play.
That Terms of Service is a clone of MY terms of service that I use for CWN -- which is a modified ToS from Reyox Communications, LLC of which I have legal authority and approval to use. You do not.
If you want to copy people's names, copy people's business names, be a cheater in your own servers, and try to screw people over -- go be a shit bag and do that. But now that I've seen you BREAKING THE LAW I am going to let the CEO of Reyox know that you are ripping his TOS and I guarantee your father will be hearing about it.
Remove it. Last warning, kid.
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Re: Some Bullshit I would Like to Clear [message #221251 is a reply to message #217656] |
Fri, 22 September 2006 13:57 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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I'm not even going to wait for him to take it down. I've already contacted Reyox and they're going to have someone from the legal department contact his father. If he still refused to take it down or modifies it further in any way, I have been assure that they will serve him legal paperwork. Normally companies don't make that big of a deal over verbage unless it is a blatant rip or it directly affects the company. Unfortunately for "Mr. Teh-Pwnerer" (aka Iccy) I am the former Chief Operating Officer for Reyox Communications, LLC and I am still good friends with the CEO.
Greg: Listen to me. Please. Get your own ideas, put them on a site that you or someone that works with you made themselves, and on a domain that is original and unique ... and sell your product. Even if you cheat on your own servers or have a shitty name, no one can touch you if you're legitimate. They'll just shit talk you - but you shouldn't care. The big thing is you like to copy people. If you want to run a business, then you need to get over the 15 year old kiddie crap and take my advice. Only then will you learn what it takes to make it in the real world.
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Re: Some Bullshit I would Like to Clear [message #221264 is a reply to message #217656] |
Fri, 22 September 2006 15:52 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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Ok. This is what I am left to say, since I have no other option, since everyone is against me, I am trying to fix my reputation here. I do NOT apologize for Justin for the obvious things he has done to me.
- fl00d3d, I apologize for this thread, which has had a big emitional impact on the both of us, and I hope we can continue our friendship, even though it is close / nearly impossible.
Yes, that Terms of Service was ripped, and I deeply apologize for that.
- Metal Vixen, I apologize for this thread which has included your name in some posts, which also had an impact for you.
- Nightma12, I apologize for those accusations I have put upon you that you were attacking my servers, I never had any proof regarding the attacks, so sry as well.
Like I said above, I will never apologize to justin for his attacks. Please remind me if I have left something out.
I decided to come clean since this would look like a thread that would keep on going and going, especially all on me. It was time for one man to become humble and take it like a man.
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Re: Some Bullshit I would Like to Clear [message #221267 is a reply to message #217656] |
Fri, 22 September 2006 16:03 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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fl00d3d, I have to admit. I apologize for all this bullshit on the forums. Not only about the false accusations, but overall the topics that had your name in it, in a bad position. If I would have had a problem with you, the mature way of getting the problem solved would have been talking with you 1 on 1. And not making this gay thread which included and laid a huge impact on allot of people here. Including both our communties, and businesses. This thread was absolutely pointless, and abstruct in every way. This was a thread that left allot of rubble in overal gaming history. I also do hope the best of luck in your new gaming community that was merged with All-Out. And the best of luck to your new merged business.
I have to admit tho, this was the biggest and most popular thread I have started, new record for me, 1000+ views and somewhat ammount of replies
Sorry again for everyone who was involved in this, except justin. Please forgive me
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Re: Some Bullshit I would Like to Clear [message #221327 is a reply to message #217656] |
Fri, 22 September 2006 19:12 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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see theres where your going wrong, you wouldnt have to deal with me, but your Quote: | Not only about the false accusations
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better make an apoligy to me aswell, cuz im a persistent little shit.
You made false allegations against me, thats why im on your ass.
if you need logs I can show you, it even came from your own little bbence friend. So until our issue is resolved, dont count on any peace, Ive given you ample chances to talk to me on msn, irc. Youve failed to respond.
Ive never once attacked your server or ddosed it.Ive just been a annoying little pain in your side.
Actually I fixed your severe crashing problem at one point.
Im not well liked, which I could care less about. Theres a saying, you might wanna live by around here.
Quote: | Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.
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I suggest you live by that, as well as by fl00d3ds advice.
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Re: Some Bullshit I would Like to Clear [message #221869 is a reply to message #217656] |
Sun, 24 September 2006 10:28 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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I spoke with him on MSN and he was extremely apologetic. Which he should be. -_-
However, I've still noticed a couple of things that have not been addressed, so I'll call them out here:
--Rencorner was previously a "Renegade community server" and not much more. Though I have no objection to people creating their own communities, etc. I do object to the fact that a few of my ideas seemed to have been "rubbed off" on to you and you're using them now.
--You now have a "council". You never had one before. And this is a well defined aspect of my community. It is a little obvious that you are attempting to make something very similar to what I have. Again, I'm not complaining that you're making a community of your own ... just that you're building it in a similar fashion which is still irritating; especially since I know you didn't have that before you met me.
--You're using the word "sponsor" to sponsor clans which is something that hardly ANYONE does anywhere on the internet. So I know that it is a direct rip from Tsunami. Tsunami-Alliance is an extremely unique community in that sense and you are even using the same verbage that I used in my doctrines and community infrastructure outlines.
I'm not going to tell you what to do, but I would definitely appreciate it if you would stick to being a community as you were or simply not using the words "council" and "sponsoring" in the ways that you are. It would appear that you are continuing to copy me in ways that are unique to Tsunami.
As for your apology - So far I have noticed that the TOS has been removed and you're working on a unique site. Even some of your admins are being responsible by explaining the truth to certain forum users. So I am please with that. However, the above two issues are still bothering me.
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Re: Some Bullshit I would Like to Clear [message #222752 is a reply to message #217656] |
Wed, 27 September 2006 09:01 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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I have decided NOT to accept his apology.
Over the last couple of days I've tried to keep it cool and see what we could work out. He asked to be unbanned from my forums and I said "only if you post your apology". After I unbanned him he never posted his apology then went on his forums and shit talked me.
He CONTINUES to lie to people. Telling them whatever they need to hear in order to get them to use his forums. He tries to make me seem like a badguy to everyone involved. There are a couple of those forums that openly admit to cheating or joke about past cheating ... yet people like LOZERS decide they'd rather associate with that.
I have been playing with an idea over the last week or so and I have decided to run full force with it.
*ANYONE* that is associated with RenCorner in any way (not players on the server, but people who are on their staff: ie. Admins, mods, active on their forums, etc.) will be banned on sight on any Tsunami-Alliance forum, teamspeak, or game server. I'm going to make my point.
Greg: You are a dumb piece of shit. I extended an olive branch and you spat all over it. I guess you need another whipping...
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Re: Some Bullshit I would Like to Clear [message #222760 is a reply to message #222752] |
Wed, 27 September 2006 09:19 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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fl00d3d:
I am an easy going person util someone has done me wrong.
I found once a person has done me wrong, I am done with them altogether. I put distance between that person and myself for good.
You should probably do the same. Ignore him and over time it just goes away.
From what I read I do not see you as the one at fault and don't even see a need for you to continue justifing yourself at all.
This is a kid your dealing with.
With that said, I wouldn't your waste of time and effort.
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