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Re: New Computer Research [message #205630 is a reply to message #203573] Mon, 26 June 2006 20:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't understand... Berkut... Why would you randomly mention that?

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Re: New Computer Research [message #205654 is a reply to message #203573] Mon, 26 June 2006 22:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hmm? I dunno. Happens. I just recently quit caffeine and it's messin with my head. Lost pretty much all of my discretion, judgement, and it has temporarily konked out my common sense, so yeah, sorry. Shocked

To be remotely relevant, my Dell cost me $1,000 last year, and it runs pretty much any game I put on it. Then again, most people think Dell sucks.

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Re: New Computer Research [message #205664 is a reply to message #205505] Mon, 26 June 2006 22:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RTsa wrote on Mon, 26 June 2006 13:08

The Inquirer? Roll Eyes


It was already confirmed that at least the AM2 opterons will have RHT. That means the rest of the chips at least have the capacity to support RHT. Whether they already have the technology on the current chips or not I don't know.

Right now it's only really going to benefit single threaded apps. But once 4+ core chips and 4x4 comes out it could benefit multithreaded apps as well.


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Re: New Computer Research [message #206151 is a reply to message #203573] Fri, 30 June 2006 14:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ok, so Jer built his computer. As he pasted on page 4. Windows XP wouldn't install on it because of the SATA drive. The computer he built has no floppy drive and theres no spot to even attach the floppy cable to the mobo. Everytime the setup wouldn't continue because it couldn't recognize the Hard Drive. NOW however, after he dropped it off here because he got tired of messing with it, I started it, went through just like it did at his house a few times. But then it started doing something different, something... more sinister. Now it says that txtsetup.sif is corrupted and setup cannot continue. It says this everytime it trys to begin the windows xp setup. I've done some reading and someone said that the memory he has in here does not get auto detected by the mobo correctly, so I manually set the timing and memory voltage in the bios, but then it wouldnt even get to the xp setup it would just restart over and over. I am completely at a loss, nothing I do works...

Update: While writing this I decided to turn it back on. It'd been sitting for about 15 minutes off. It works, went into the Windows XP setup, and got to the page where it wants me to insert the disk labled Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 2 CD into Drive: A. His computer has no floppy drive so there isn't even a Drive A: for it to ask for... What should I do? I really want to help Jer and I want to get this running because A. This is pretty much the same as my computer was gonna be so :/ Eeep B. I wanted to play CS:S on it before he picked it up. Razz

Anyone who can get this thing up and running or help me out here will receive my sincere gratitude, on installment plan, for the next 6 months.

A video of it all happening: http://doitle.tugok.com/101_0445small.avi


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Re: New Computer Research [message #206228 is a reply to message #203573] Sat, 01 July 2006 10:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ok, it from the video I see that it detects the HDD. Go to onboard device configuration > IDE Function setup, tell me or show what is under there. Same with the Serial-ATA configuration right below.

Also make sure your boot startup is set to CD-ROM > HDD.

I can't remember how I fixed it but I had the same problem. It was an option in the BIOS, make sure it's set to SATA. Even after that though, it was still a bitch to get the OS on the drive.

After I got it on the drive, everything was good though.


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Re: New Computer Research [message #206232 is a reply to message #203573] Sat, 01 July 2006 12:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I got it up and running. It looked like the HD controller built in was in raid mode. I set it to something like... AHCI and tada it worked. No explanation for those memory errors though... The corrupted file thing just went away after I turned it off for some minutes. Anyhow I'm on it right now trying to test out games on it. Anyone got any suggestions?

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Re: New Computer Research [message #206256 is a reply to message #203573] Sat, 01 July 2006 19:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Great games for benchmarking are Quake 4 Demo, Half life 2 Demo and the Battlefield 2 Demo. Halo is also pretty good, even though it's quite old.

If you want something new, grab the prey demo. That was released last week and kicks ass. It's on the Doom 3 engine.


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Re: New Computer Research [message #211003 is a reply to message #203573] Wed, 02 August 2006 14:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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0k, I finally got my debit card and graduation money deposited. What has changed since the last post in this thread? Processor prices have dropped, uh... Anyhow, I'm in the final stage. I was going to order it today but I have too many questions still. I don't know what to do and I cant come to any conclusions. As for Hard drives I dont know what I should do. I don't know that I'll be able to figure out the crazy Raid stuff. I was looking at getting 3-4 300-400GB HDs. I had insane space problems on my old computer. I would come to Renegade Forums and the forums would be flat white with black text and blue links because I didnt have enough free disk space to download the CSS Style Sheet to display the page correctly.

Another Dilemma. Videocard. Like I've said over and over, I won't be able to upgrade down the road so this is it. What should I do? People who keep telling me to wait till December for Direct X 10. If I wait till December I'll get one of the first Direct X 10 cards? Like the 5200? Which sucks beyond beleif... One of the first DX 9 cards. The cards that come out with Direct X 10 will probably be crappy. So the potential wait for an upgrade will probably be even longer... I just... I don't know what to do and it's coming down to the wire and...

In short I hate Direct X. Uh... Yeah, whatever you pull out of this rambling post and address, I thank you for.


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Re: New Computer Research [message #211018 is a reply to message #203573] Wed, 02 August 2006 18:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Note: Turns out AMD's 4X4 technology is a workstation import, also known as an expensive joke that most likely nobody will be getting.

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Re: New Computer Research [message #211036 is a reply to message #203573] Wed, 02 August 2006 22:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think that is way overkill on storage. I would be surprised if the public side of this web site eclipsed 100 Megabytes. Two identical 80 Gigabyte HDD is more than enough. A third just gives you more options to play with in a RAID array. Three or four 300 Gigabyte HDD would hold the entire Internet. You could get rid of your Internet connection and practice your searching skills. I could lose an entire OS in a 900 Gigabyte ocean.

Re: New Computer Research [message #211037 is a reply to message #203573] Wed, 02 August 2006 22:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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160GB is nothing nowadays with the size of games and shit.

This is seriously one thing he can pick by himself.

And I hope you were kidding about the 900GB holding the entire fucking Internet.


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Re: New Computer Research [message #211039 is a reply to message #203573] Wed, 02 August 2006 22:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I had 5GBs of Freakazoid I had to delete so I could continue operating my computer, then I lost my season of Fawlty Towers, Then I had to uninstall games. Sims 2? 7GBs... SWG like a ton of GBs, BFME2 is like 6GBs. Games are getting huge, and I don't like having no space always. It'd be nice to actually... be able to do stuff... I had to uninstall Adobe Premire. I've lost so many useful programs and fun games to space constraints. I'm building a uber computer I'd like to have some elbow room.

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Re: New Computer Research [message #211041 is a reply to message #203573] Wed, 02 August 2006 23:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sounds like you may need to invest in a DVD burner. I think the intelligent purchase would be two, three or four identical 80 Gigabyte HDD. I'm not positive how much of the Internet will fit on 320 Gigabytes, But I'm sure it would hold everything I've downloaded this year, and last year, and the year before that. It just makes sense when you start to figure RAID arrays. It's all about options buddy.

Re: New Computer Research [message #211057 is a reply to message #203573] Thu, 03 August 2006 00:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Forget about the hard drive, lets focus on the other topics.

Also, case recomendations.


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Re: New Computer Research [message #211131 is a reply to message #203573] Thu, 03 August 2006 09:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Your typical aluminum ATX case (comes in a variety of different colors):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E168111440 90

A well-designed one, also comes in Silver:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E168111290 17

One that you seriously don't want to purchase: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E168111730 08

Basic:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E168111460 20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E168111460 28
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E168111331 74
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E168111560 50

Looks great, is great according to review websites, including TG, but no love from PC Gamer (I suggest you get it) :http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811146 018

Airflow's bitch (also black): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E168111330 16

As for the hard drives: Seagate, Western Digital or Hitashi, Toshiba and Samsung are acceptable, buying Maxtor (mediocre) or Fujitsu (gays after 2 years) would mean ending up in hell for the rest of your days.


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Re: New Computer Research [message #211159 is a reply to message #203573] Thu, 03 August 2006 11:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I was actually planning on a Full-Tower case. Every computer I've owned was a mid-tower and they all suck to work in. When I worked on Jers, the first Full Tower I've ever worked in it was so much nicer.

https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wishlist/PublicWishDeta il.asp?WishListNumber=3753607&WishListTitle=Ultracomp%3F

Just another sample build... I don't know what to do... :/ I really want to get it soon. I'm running out of time before college...


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Re: New Computer Research [message #211724 is a reply to message #203573] Fri, 04 August 2006 23:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Holy freaking double post dudes... Seriously though, I did it because its urgent and stuff.

I ordered it.

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD4000KD 400GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM
$139.99

Saitek PZ30AU Black USB Wired Standard Eclipse Keyboard - Retail
$41.95

Thermaltake Armor Series VA8000BWS Black Aluminum/Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail
$149.99

ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce 590 SLI MCP ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
$199.99

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ Windsor 2000MHz HT Socket AM2 Dual Core Processor Model ADA4600CUBOX - Retail
$319.00

OCZ GameXStream OCZ700GXSSLI ATX12V 700W Power Supply - Retail
$154.99

CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400C4 - Retail
$255.00

SAMSUNG 18X DVD±R DVD Burner With 12X DVD-RAM Write Black E-IDE/ATAPI Model SH-S182D - OEM
$34.99

I need to know if any of you have any comments on any of these things / have used them. What Thermal Paste do you guys recomend, and most importantly as you'll notice. I haven't ordered a video card yet. I'm planning currently to go SLI. Give me your pick for two cards. I need to know soon though as I'm ordering the cards tomororow. I couldn't order them all today because of my debit cards daily purchase limit. Alright, GO


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Re: New Computer Research [message #211729 is a reply to message #203573] Fri, 04 August 2006 23:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Get a Logitech G5 mouse, a regular DVD drive. If you have enough money, two Geforce 7950GX2, and if not, 7900GTX (as you don't want to upgrade in future), and if it's too expensive, 7800GTX/7900GT.

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Re: New Computer Research [message #211732 is a reply to message #203573] Fri, 04 August 2006 23:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I already have a Microsoft Intelimouse from the computer that died. So I don't need a mouse. I still have a nice working Microsoft Internet Keyboard too but... I <3 Saitek Eclipses so I couldn't resist. What I would like actually are links to the actual Newegg peices. There are like 28 7900GTs, I dont know which ones are good or bad, or have memory corruption something or others DaEspion was talking about. While I do have enough for dual 7950s... As I said in n00bstories that's crossing the line into cartoonish super-villany.

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Re: New Computer Research [message #211733 is a reply to message #203573] Fri, 04 August 2006 23:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Leadtek preferably, but they're basically all the same.

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Re: New Computer Research [message #211800 is a reply to message #203573] Sat, 05 August 2006 10:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Leadtek have one 7900GT on newegg and it's the basic model.

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Re: New Computer Research [message #212348 is a reply to message #203573] Tue, 08 August 2006 15:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sorry for bumping this back up, but...

Quote:

Recently, a fever pitch of rumors surrounding AMD's "Reverse Hyper-Threading" was also dismissed when it was discovered the original source of the rumor was a poor translation of a future README file to an AMD dual-core optimization utility.


Source: Dailytech


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Re: New Computer Research [message #212371 is a reply to message #203573] Tue, 08 August 2006 19:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The fact that it exists was dismissed or the rumour that it was already on AM2 chips? I'd think the latter

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Re: New Computer Research [message #212396 is a reply to message #203573] Wed, 09 August 2006 01:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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All the rumors surrounding reversed hyper-threading were dismissed.

It doesn't exist right now, but doesn't meant it won't in the future.


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Re: New Computer Research [message #212497 is a reply to message #203573] Wed, 09 August 2006 16:39 Go to previous message
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It came it came! I'm overly excited obviously. Check it out!

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The case is bigger than I ever could have expected or imagined. It's a steel case so it weighs around 40lbs empty. I'm still waiting for my video cards and thermal paste to arrive tomorrow, then I can put it together and game like I've never gamed before! Woot woot!


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