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Thu, 13 May 2004 22:49

Hydra
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This execution was quit despicable, but NOT unwarranted.

"Oh, it was a terrible act, but it is our fault." :rolleyes: You'd rather blame America before the terrorists? Who was it who cut the guy's head off? A terrorist. Was it an American? No. So how is it our fault? "Oh, we made them mad because we were abusing their soldiers!" That was 6 sick individuals who stripped a bunch of prisoners naked and piled them on top of each other. It was abuse, but what's happening to those soldiers right now? They're being court-martialed. See, the difference here is that we actually punish those who do crimes and commit atrocities. Al-Jazeera wouldn't dare report the court-martialing of those soldiers since that might give Americans a good name.

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The Constitution defines thee law of the land in a way that includes any treaties we sign. We signed the Geneva Convention. Therefore, we do not torture people. We're supposed to be seen as the guiding light country that leads the world in condemning torture and looking out for fellow humans.

At least we were like that before this Abu Gharib hellhole came to light.

Let's see, has this happened anywhere else thus far? Have there been any other reports of Iraqi prisoner abuse? No, there haven't? Thank you.

I think it's nice how you just degraded the American troops in Iraq. Really, calling them a group of murderous torturers was really nice of you. :rolleyes:

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It should also be noted that sometime a while ago [Note: I'm just remembering this off the top of my head - I may not be perfectly precise, but the general jist is the same] Donald Rumsfeld and some other people from the Bush presidency were giving a press conference or something like that and got on the topic of terrorists. They said something like "We will deal with these terrorists in new ways to better secure our country", and then someone piped up "Will they be treated fairly under the Geneva Convention?" Then Rumsfeld says, "Well, the terrorists shouldn't expect treatment under the Geneva Convention."

Now, here, smart people go "Oh my god, we're going to be torturing people?"

Well why don't you help us all remember when he said that because I sure as hell don't remember him ever saying the prisoners would not get protection under the Geneva Convention.

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However, there really are no terrorists in Iraq, so this may be a little off to the side. Although it does deal with overlooking the Geneva Convention.

Oh, that's right, they're not terrorists, they're freedom fighters. :rolleyes:

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Besides, the Iraqis we were and are fighting are just like any other soldier: They're supporters of a side.

Well, Hamas is a group of people who support a particular side. Does that make them soldiers too?

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And Arabs see this, and then kill someone, and while they are indeed sick freaks, they are responding to atrocities commited by the US.

*points to Warranto's last post* that summed it up pretty well.

IRON-FART

And it looks like that for every 9 of them you kill, them seem to kill about 18...

What the hell are you talking about? Only about 700 American soldiers were killed! That was barely a statistic in the other major wars we've been in!! For every one soldier they kill, we kill about 100 more militants, and for every one successful bombing/attack they make on American forces, about 14 are prevented.

Pull your head out of your ass.

Walter Keith Koester: September 22, 1962 - March 15, 2005
God be with you, Uncle Wally.

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		see that sick shit? By: EvoSnipe on Thu, 13 May 2004 08:12
		see that sick shit? By: KIRBY098 on Thu, 13 May 2004 08:34
		see that sick shit? By: Phoenix - Aeon on Thu, 13 May 2004 11:59
		see that sick shit? By: warranto on Thu, 13 May 2004 13:38
		see that sick shit? By: Nodbugger on Thu, 13 May 2004 14:20
		see that sick shit? By: SuperFlyingEngi on Thu, 13 May 2004 16:54
		see that sick shit? By: Crimson on Thu, 13 May 2004 16:55
		see that sick shit? By: Nodbugger on Thu, 13 May 2004 17:07
		see that sick shit? By: SuperFlyingEngi on Thu, 13 May 2004 17:12
		see that sick shit? By: warranto on Thu, 13 May 2004 20:07
		Re: see that sick shit? By: IRON FART on Thu, 13 May 2004 20:56
		see that sick shit? By: Hydra on Thu, 13 May 2004 22:49
		see that sick shit? By: Cpo64 on Fri, 14 May 2004 00:17
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		see that sick shit? By: Nodbugger on Fri, 14 May 2004 05:11
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		see that sick shit? By: Cpo64 on Fri, 14 May 2004 13:21
		see that sick shit? By: Nodbugger on Fri, 14 May 2004 14:13
		see that sick shit? By: SuperFlyingEngi on Fri, 14 May 2004 14:40
		see that sick shit? By: EvoSnipe on Mon, 17 May 2004 07:01
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		see that sick shit? By: EvoSnipe on Mon, 17 May 2004 18:19
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		see that sick shit? By: Deathgod on Mon, 17 May 2004 23:50
		see that sick shit? By: KIRBY098 on Tue, 18 May 2004 05:52
		see that sick shit? By: SuperFlyingEngi on Tue, 18 May 2004 12:54
		see that sick shit? By: DarkDemin on Tue, 18 May 2004 16:39
		see that sick shit? By: SuperFlyingEngi on Tue, 18 May 2004 17:07
		see that sick shit? By: DarkDemin on Tue, 18 May 2004 17:24
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		see that sick shit? By: EvoSnipe on Wed, 19 May 2004 12:41
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		see that sick shit? By: EvoSnipe on Wed, 19 May 2004 12:55
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		see that sick shit? By: SuperFlyingEngi on Wed, 19 May 2004 16:56
		see that sick shit? By: Crimson on Wed, 19 May 2004 16:58
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		see that sick shit? By: Crimson on Wed, 19 May 2004 17:14
		see that sick shit? By: SuperFlyingEngi on Wed, 19 May 2004 17:16
		see that sick shit? By: Javaxcx on Wed, 19 May 2004 17:18
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		see that sick shit? By: Javaxcx on Wed, 19 May 2004 18:58
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		see that sick shit? By: Crimson on Wed, 19 May 2004 20:23
		see that sick shit? By: Deathgod on Wed, 19 May 2004 23:45
		see that sick shit? By: KIRBY098 on Thu, 20 May 2004 05:21
		see that sick shit? By: Deathgod on Sat, 22 May 2004 00:34

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