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Wed, 14 April 2004 20:32

Javaxcx
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To your response that Jesus is the only mediator which is true! But he is God and what ever he says is LAW!!! So I asked my priest over Easter about your topic that telling our sins is blasphemy and he said that Jesus made priests with the power to forgive sins!! Have you ever read John 20: 23

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22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: 23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.

He says right there to his disciples who's ever sins u forgive they are forgiven and who evers sin u do not forgive are not forgiven! SO there you see a it! A priest is acting through a law that Jesus made!! Thus it is perfect and infallible! So there you have it! A PRIEST HAS THE ABILITY TO FORGIVE SINS!!!!

Also I did answer why Jesus died for our sins!!! He did it because he loved all of humanity and wanted us to have a share in eternal life with him!! It says so in the BIBLE!!!

Ok, I'm going to break this down for you, because you seem to be a bit confused on the issue:

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To your response that Jesus is the only mediator which is true! But he is God and what ever he says is LAW!!!

Thats right, anything that Jesus said is to be considered God's law, HOWEVER:

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So I asked my priest over Easter about your topic that telling our sins is blasphemy and he said that Jesus made priests with the power to forgive sins!! Have you ever read John 20: 23

Now, you need to understand this otherwise it's a waste of time to try and comprehend what I'm telling you: There is a DIFFERENCE between a human forgiving a human, and God forgiving a human. For example: If you steal a baseball card from a friend, but return it the next day, your friend may forgive you. This amends the relationship between you and your friend, but you haven't amended with God for breaking the commandment "thou shalt not steal". This can be extrapolated to priests aswell, however more indirectly. If you "confess" to a priest, he can say "Well sonny, you're forgiven for stealing your buddy's baseball card" but that is merely a human reconciling to a human. In short, you're not confessing to God, you're confessing to someone who is not qualified to atone your sins. It doesn't matter if Jesus gave them the gift of the Holy Spirit BECAUSE priests are still human; They are not God. The very most they can do is give you guidance on how to speak to God about your transgressions.

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Also I did answer why Jesus died for our sins!!! He did it because he loved all of humanity and wanted us to have a share in eternal life with him!!

You're looking at it from a terribly broad perspective. God wanted us to share eternal life with him always, not just when he decided to sent Jesus to combat Satan (because THAT was what Jesus' mission was).

It's one thing to say "Jesus died for our sins" and it's another to actually understand what that means. If you want a simple, HUMAN answer, read that link I posted a few posts up.

http://n00bstories.com/image.fetch.php?id=1144717496

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