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Titan's maps vs ACK's maps (split off) [message #67006] Tue, 17 February 2004 08:56 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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I like this, for some reason. It reminds me of that Tool song, Schism.

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I know the pieces fit
'Cause I watched them tumble down
No fault, none to blame
It doesn't mean I don't desire to
Point the finger, blame the other


It's a relatively simple thing to blame me, or anyone else, for the failures of others... When you would help out in the same kind of attacks you're writing about.

Now what is wrong with this picture?

Did you come to your senses and realize that freely giving your opinion, in spite of what others think, is a part of what this forum is made for? Or did you think that telling people what you think is somehow going to stop people from working on this game?

Furthermore, while you blame me for all of this, why didn't you or anyone else do anything to help the game? Why didn't you take your own time to learn and work on it? Or were you too busy doing something else?

As for Renegade Alert... What the hell are you even talking about? It was never, at any point, version 1.2. It hasn't even gotten out of the beta testing stages for the public. We've been testing it for about nine months, with the public... It's been plastered everywhere you can download it, there's even a forum dedicated to the support of it.

Had you paid attention here, you'd notice that our major complaint with Reborn is this:

1. We, as a team, had supported Reborn for a period of time in which they shrugged off our offers to help. They shit all over us and went on their merry way, deleting bug reports we had submitted from owning the *private* beta test files.

2. They didn't fix any of the problems we had identified. Not once. Instead, they threw minor band-aids over them and made more problems.

3. It took them longer to get a public beta test out than it did for us to get ours out with three additional patches to the 0.992 version.

As for the rest of what you wrote, it can be summed up by replying to this:

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I expect perfection when WW released a map. NOT when an apprentice map maker releases version one of a work in progress.


Actually, this is where I'll come out and attack you for the first time in a very long while. People with your mentality is what is wrong with this community. Not "expression of opinions" or "flaming" people, you realize EVERY COMMUNITY has that? What the fuck dude, is Renegade the only game you've ever played? Go to CS forums, you think everyone is happy there? What about Unreal, or Quake? Yeah, they're all bending over backwards to help everyone... Give me a fucking break.

It's your mentality of "since this is free, I expect it to be perfect, and I don't think I should have to do anything. So if it fails, I'm going to whine about it on the forums."

Here's what I think... If you don't like it, why the hell didn't you do anything to help? All you've done is write some replies on a forum. No, Renegade isn't dead. But I'm happy it's making people like you want to leave.

Only the people willing to do anything will remain... And I doubt you're going to pick up 3D Studio and spend a few months learning how to create things for this game, just to spite me... Nah, that'd mean you'd have to do something instead of write words on a forum.

:rolleyes:

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ACK, do you honestly think that continous flaming will change our opinions about Titan? It certainly changes opinions about you though...


So? You think that really matters to me? This is the Internet, and unless I speak with you often or consider you a friend, I couldn't give a rat's ass about what you think of me... "omg you're a big bad man online, you write text to people"

Like I'm not going to get to sleep tonight because these incredibly hurtful statements are weighing down on my conscience...

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all in all...my maps that have been created as of the past 3 months have great gameplay and look nice....This is my opinion by playing them in a couple of servers and seeing that gameplay matches those of WW maps and actually High noon 2 surpasses that gameplay by involving every aspect of this game.


In what way? If you really think that Renegade's gameplay, mostly camping and getting a bunch of points, is hard to surpass or something... hoo boy, where to start here...

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I totally refute the notion that Ack has the market cornered on Renegade because of intellectual superiority. He's got it cornered because he has convinced you that you shouldn't even try. Don't buy into ANYONE ever telling you can't do something.


And you were a big part of this "convincing" garbage. I remember quite a few of your posts that were remarkably similar to mine.

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4. I'm honestly not trying to sway the community with my drivel; at least not in the context of "ack?s maps suck, titan rules!" I'm just voicing my (hopefully still respected) opinion that I think aircraftkiller's blatant hatred and completely biased opinions against Titan's maps should hold absolutely no weight at all. And, that quiet forum dwellers can feel comfortable with coming out of the closet and telling him to shut the fuck up right along side of me, rather than sit quietly in the background because they don't want to be ostracized for expressing their opinion.


This makes me ask you "Why do your opinions hold any sway, when they're all complaints or self-proclaimed drivel?" Honestly, feel free to keep doing this. Say "shut the fuck up" and such all you want, I've got no problem with that. I still won't, though... So it's pointless.

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The bottom line is, this is not a matter of expressing opinions, exercising free speech, "the irony of telling someone to STFU in a post" (come on ack, I know you want to say that, don't you..) The point is that this is "supposed" to be the OFFICIAL forums for Command & Conquer Renegade, and it is SUPPOSED to be centered around keeping the community alive. Wouldn't it be more appropriate to request that Ack acquire a blow up doll that he can smash his fist in to every time he thinks about Titan, rather than allowing him to represent this community in an official capacity with such glaring hatred and biased against members that are simply trying to help keep the game alive also?


I don't know, would it be? Crimson's said, before, that she won't censor people because you don't like what's written. It's only censored when it's a major personal attack.

I honestly can't see why you can take up any side on this. You have nothing to do with it and you're not causing me to change my mind.
 
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