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The ozone layer may or may not be affected by freon, or carbon flouro carbons or the methane produced by mass cattle ranching or any one of a number of human activities, but there's also plenty of evidence to support the fact that global warming may truly be ofsetting the next ice age, we are due for one and up untill industrialisation avarage temps were dropping. The simple fact is we just don't know enough about it, all we do know is nature pisses all over us for environmental damage. For example when mount St Helens erupted (and no I'm not blaming Americans for that) it released more chlorine into the atmosphere per hour than global industy did per year. There is enough methane locked in frozen deposits on the ocean floor to cause global warming on a scale we couldn't even begin to comprehend. The simple fact is, I don't care what we do, we won't end the world, either human intervention or nature will make it unlivable for humans, but not for life. If humanity kills it's self off, then happy evolution folks, u came in second.

My money is on the cocroaches, remarcably resilient


Look I'm really not out to Bush bash, or even Regan. My point still stands that there's never been a President who wasn't in some way great and in some way crap. Reagan, good economy for America, but then StarWars, good and bad, notice most people are saying now that he killed the economy with the Star Wars spending, and forgetting to mention he helped create the economy that could afford it in the first place.

I'm not anti bush any more than I'm pro bush, that wasn't my intention sorry you missunderstood.

But cowmisfit please don't re write history, America had a huge impact on the outcome of the second world war. The courage and comitment showed by a generation of young Americans to the fate of Europe has not been forgoten, but you were in the war in 1942, by which time the Battle of Britain had been won, the invasion of mainland UK had been canceled and Hitlers forces had taken huge losses in Russia, we would not, as I so often hear be speaking German if you hadn't come along, any more than we owe the same gratetude to Russia, however we would quite likely been in some long term conflict or cease fire. It's like the A-Bomb, it's unlikely you wouldn't have beat Japan without it, but it would have taken a lot more in time and lives.
Poletics is fine for arguing, I might dissagree with ACK or Crimson, but I don't think their opinion is invalid, it's good that there are people willing to stand by what they believe, but I do find pig ignorant revision of history offensive. Few people seem so quick to point out that without Germany you wouldn't have the A-Bomb that ended the war with Japan, or the Rockets that kept such an uneasy peace through the cold war.
I've seen the graves in France, I know we owe them not to ever let it happen again, American, Brit, French, German, Belgian, Canadian, Australian, NewZelander and all the others. But you cowmisfit I owe nothing, you talk about it like just being American means the world owes you for steping in, the people I owe I can never have the chance to thank, and you haven't done one single thing to put yourself in their league or deserve a share in their respects.
 
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