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Tue, 11 November 2003 22:51

warranto
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I just saw it today, so I can finally add my two cents worth. First to clarify a few things...

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(note: the Merovingian had overwrote her body as you can see by her new 'shell' in Revolutions).

Not quite true. He had her killed for crossing him. Metrovigian never "overwrote" her as that would imply him creating the new shell. However, since the oracle's purpose is essencial to the matrix's survival, he was unable to completely get rid of her. Hence the new shell, as the ond one had been killed.

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The machine then terminates Neo's body, thus killing the master smith and his influence in the matrix.

Also incorrect, though it's close. Had this been true, the machines would have been able to take Smith out as soon as he took control of something the machines also had control of (anyone still hooked into the matrix). What happened, has been discussed before. Neo was the "One", Smith was the "negative One" when Smith took control of Neo's body, the two opposing variables came into contact. However dispite that, they are still just variables, though now by joining together the machines could cancel the equation.

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This series of events led Neo to control the Matrix in its entirety.

He couldn't control the matrix, just manipulate it to the same extent as everyone else freed from the matrix. He was just able to manipulate it to a greater degree, hence the flying and super speeds demonstrated in Reloaded.

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had to call a truce and rely on Neo to defeat Smith so their power source would not be destroyed.

Sorry, but also not right. What the machines were afraid of was Smith infecting, and eventually taking control of the machines. Despite being machines, they had a sence of self-preservation that they wished to maintain, and that Smith was threatening. The power supply had nothing to do with it, as despite being taken over by Smith, they were still maintaining power. Not to mention, in Reloaded the Architect mentioned the matrix and everyone in it was going to be destroyed anyways due to Neo's choice.

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Neo was so integrated into the Matrix

Sort of true. When Neo becomes the "One", it's because his body had a program written into it that in a sence activated whenever he was jacked in to the Matrix. It's this program that allowed him to have his superhuman abilities, and why Smith (Another program) was considered to be the counter to Neo, and why they were able to negate each other when integrated. As well, like Smith, Neo found a way to bring part of the program to the real world. The difference being, Neo did it unknowingly. This is why he was able to disrupt the machines and destroy them.

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Except Neo. When he assimilates Neo, he's assimilated everyone. Every last thing. And thus, he no longer has purpose.

Refer to my previous answer to this. Your sort of right, though Smiths purpose was not to assimilate everyone. His purpose was to be Neo's opposite.

As for whether Neo is actually dead, he may be alive, just no longer be considered the "One" as that programming was negated by Smith assimilating him.

The only question I still have is the overall purpose of the girl. She has no purpose, yet is able to at least manipulate the matrix directly. She creates the sunset at the end, and is told by the Oracle that it looks nice. The Matrix series may be done, but the story has yet to be fully completed. I predict either a spin-off movie, or a tv series. (Remember at the end of Godzilla there was that one remaining egg that survived the explosion. A cartoon soon followed)

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