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I'm am seriously pissed off now about the Matrix. [message #54677] Mon, 10 November 2003 14:48 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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I try to stay out of these sorts of subjects, but I'm a Matrix lover, so I had to at least read the conversations.

I found the following while searching for support for Blazer (cuz I agreed with him about the range of an EMP). However, I found something other than what I had hoped to. In either case, here are the facts:

"The electromagnetic pulse generated by the detonation of a single nuclear weapon at high altitudes can be a threat to military systems located as much as a thousand miles away. HEMP can disable communications systems and even power grids at enormous distances from the burst. This type of threat could be used by a third world country that has the capability to launch a rocket carrying a high-yield device (about 1 megaton or more) a few hundred kilometers into the upper atmosphere and a few thousand kilometers from its own territory (to avoid damaging its own systems). "

Full article at: http://www.fas.org/nuke/intro/nuke/effects.htm

One thing I also wanted to point out to Slicer_238. You said, "Then the last one when the one robot is telling the UN peopel to give up their flesh, I don;t care robot or not the humans still had the ability to launch all of their nuclear weapons off and blew Earth into oblivion which would the US alone has enough nukes to blow up Earth 10+ times. " earlier ...

Now I may be taking a stab into the dark here, but didn't they claim in the movies that "the world was united in their marvel ... they gave birth to AI" So before AI got to the point where they rebelled and started a war, wasn't man united into a single "government"? I don't think the humans ever intended to annihilate the planet (because that would defeat their purpose of the war. They want to survive!). I think they intended to deprive the AI of their sunlight which they needed.

** DO NOT READ THIS NEXT PARAGRAPH IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN REVOLUTIONS!! ** It may reveal more than you wish to know at this point.

The machines, I'm sure, understood EMP and its threat to their existance. As I am sure the creators of AI understood. Even in the movies you see examples of the AI fearing the almighty EMP. Towards the middle-to-end of Revolutions you notice the ship struggling to return with their last EMP. The machines, knowing this, were re-ordered to keep those gates closed at all costs. Even after they apparently survived the first wave of attacks by the machines, the machines returned with a stronger wave after they were sure the humans were defenseless. This just proves their knowledge of the human defense system.

** ====DONE WITH THE POTENTIAL SPOILER === **

Just an argument. I'm not really taking either side for sure as I have not seen all of the Animatrix episodes. However, the points I made above I feel are valid and should be debated.


That information is good enough to show how the machines would of been "killed" right there. Also, nope it was the UN in the Animatrix. But like I said, if the humans knew they were about to beaten down and made into slaves by the robots it would of been pretty much destroy the whole damn world. I would of been the guy yelling "BLOW THE DAMN EARTH UP!!" because I wouldn't want to live under teh rule of machines.


KIRBY098

And electronics CAN be shielded from EMP.

Military hardware is heavily shielded for just that reason. NORAD isn't buried deep for just surface attack reasons. Granite blocks EMP bursts, just as well as it blocks electronic radio transmissions.


I didn't say they couldn't. Lead also blocks EMPs. But the point still stands that their buildings were steel and the robots were not made from stone or lead.

May Trey rest in forever bliss and happiness.

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