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Re: What actually happened... [message #481629 is a reply to message #481563]

Wed, 05 June 2013 13:08

Wyld1USA
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liquidv2 wrote on Tue, 04 June 2013 22:46

the thing that strikes me as odd about your theory is Trojan didn't try to take your community over when he could have; he just followed what others were telling him
until you threatened to take him away, after all he'd invested in both the community and given to you personally, he hadn't actually done anything (arguably, what he did made sense)
what some people are saying and what he's actually doing look to be two different things here lol

Liquid you have the best understanding of this out of anyone. Pretty much spot on.

This comes down to who can run the community the best today so it will be here as long as this game is going. My interest has always been about the players. You can argue all these other points forever and we will not solve anything. It is the past and done.

I like Ani and Volcom both equally. They both have their issues / quirks etc. It comes down to who is stable to run the community. Volcom has been that stable person for at least 6 months. Regardless if the community was purchased or not. I told both of them they sucked at documenting what actually happened there and it would have helped to have this in writing.

I would really love to take this to Judge Judy. I can see her siding with either side.

Judge Judy's decision in favor of Volcom:

Ani: Based on your logs you accepted substantial funds that gave the rights to run RenCorner to Volcom. Your post said you were stepping down and giving control to Volcom. In addition you created a perceived threat via pm's(regardless if you would have executed on it) which resulted in the current owner, Volcom, taking action to protect his assets. You certainly would have done the same.

Judge Judy's decision in favor of Ani:

Volcom: If you in fact purchased the Community, you should have documented it as such in writing and much stronger than the logs presented.

However we don't have Judge Judy, we have Judge RenForums. I don't think either could make the correct decision as I know I am struggling with it and I know more facts than anyone next to Shai.

Regardless who sides with who, or what RenForums judges happened here, Volcom has been paying the bills, been around active with the players, and other than being guilty of deleting the VPS from trying to battle a server take over, hasn't done anything to be removed.

Not sure what else can be discussed or decided on this as it is done. Both Ani and Volcom are moving in their own directions. Maybe we will have two RenCorner Ren servers up at one point but we all know there is only enough players for one server to survive. Really the players are going to decide this going forward.

So I will bid this thread a farewell as I am also moving on.

"Who cares what people think, it is what you know." "Feel the Love."
~Original Demo Player~

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