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fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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hmm, yes, yes
what we have here is the equivalent of someone posting a screenshot

no one observed me doing anything illegal.

your car was searched and a bunch of cocaine was found in the trunk


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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you had cheat files exactly where cheat files go, my dearest derfcow

again whatever makes you feel better.

i don't need to feel better; all this did was prove your title further
i'm fine; you're obviously not because you chose to use cheats
it would have helped had you come clean about it; you're in denial and i don't expect you to anytime soon, since it took you literally years to admit to using R-G-H in n00bstories and st0rm (not like we didn't already know that)


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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why do you expect anyone to believe you weren't cheating when you've casually demonstrated in the past how comfortable you actually are with cheating?

you just dont read things, In my op on the jelly forums I said I didnt expect anyone to believe me and fully expected a ban anyway. I dont know why I bother.
Iv never found anything wrong with cheating in casual non important servers. eg the build servers/noobstories ect. Jelly was the server I never cheated on and I still wont even in the future.

using the files you were is considered cheating; they are cheat files
n00bstories does not differ much from Jelly Marathon, and we in no way appreciate you claiming to be a Jelly player in any sense of the word


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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you seem to think the ban system was in some way responsible for how you were caught cheating

How else was I "caught" lmao

certainly not by the same process that covers serial bans
as i so clearly stated numerous times already Blush


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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is the plugin that caught you is a separate entity
there has been mistakes in the past of many kinds, but i can assure you derfie, this was no mistake

the broken record continues...

i'm a fixed record, working properly
it is actually you that is broken
if i didn't know any better i'd say you're just a successful troll
i have no problem correcting you though


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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i'm not sure that you understand how much of a proven cheater you are,

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the system was updated and the cheats you were using were detected

nice update, was it called lockbox? Listen

i believe you were forum-banned due to the PM convos that you had with moderators; there was likely no need to allow you to continue posting when you were clearly going to continue lying about it


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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i have reason to believe you were using them for quite a long time

Oh please entertain me here!

well derfie, it goes like this
if i didn't know any better i'd give you the benefit of the doubt, but that's not the case here
since i know you've cheated for years in other servers and just recently got caught using cheats on Jelly Marathon why should i believe you haven't been using cheats on Jelly Marathon for months?


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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(considering you have been using cheats for well over two years now)

You dont spectate my computer, the times I cheated were less than I can count on both hands. Thats including storm noobstories ect. I dont know what gives you this thinking of your knowing everything but you really dont..

i never claimed to know everything, and i don't honestly think i know everything
if i thought i knew everything i would likely try to use my knowledge to win in casinos!

the first incident with st0rm was literally years ago; are you trying to dispute my statement of "considering you have been using cheats for well over two years now"? you used R-G-H at least several times in the past few years; do you deny this truth?


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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and that they had just gone unnoticed or unseen until now;

smh,

you should quit shaking your head and try to be honest here


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

actually no one believes me, and why do you think im furious? Do you really think this whole thing has changed anything except the name I play under?

i don't actually believe you still play
though, if you did, you'd likely go unnoticed unless you started using aimbot or something like you did in n00bstories and st0rm


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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that's the same for most gaming communities; do you honestly expect every member to join and be active on the forums? i'm not sure what point you're trying to make but i'm sure it made good sense in your head

its clearly beyond you.

i'm going to assume you're spouting nonsense since you can't back it up in any way, shape, or form
if you're going to venture an opinion out there on a matter you should at least be able to back it up


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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Jelly has never expected to be uniform;

until of course someone disagrees with you.

that's a lie, and i already covered it in my previous post
i have no problem with people disagreeing with me, but i hope they have a reason for it
there have been many occasions where people with differing opinions changed my mind on them because their reasoning made far more sense than my own


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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for some reason you think everyone is out to get you,

No not everyone, just a select few who happen to have the power to keep me out. The majority of ppl Im m8s with are ingame, some on the forums, used to be mods but no real admins/mods as they have changed.

you're more than welcome to think that this is just a conspiracy theory to get rid of you because you're an outspoken individual that challenges the mod staff on issues because everyone else is just too afraid to speak up
you're quite a mighty hero there derfcow; i hope someone writes an epic poem about you someday

that, or you were banned for cheating and are trying entirely way too hard to deny it
you would never have been banned had you not been cheating; had it been someone else on that name they would have been banned too because - guess what - they were cheating
had it been me i would have been banned and demodded / likely banned from everything Jelly-related


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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as i've said numerous times and will have to continue to repeat until you understand

I dont understand anything remember?

it's certainly starting to seem that way


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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there's nothing wrong with disagreeing with anything; the fact of the matter is you were completely unable to back up anything you said, and when faced with the truth continued to spout bullshit and lie about topics

How can I back something I said when Im banned from the forum to post anything in the first place? When my topic is locked within minutes of me posting it? Why do you ignore these facts?

like i mentioned above, your case was discussed with moderators via PM
they allowed you the chance to come clean, but since you opted to lie instead they decided to lock the topic

the piece of my post that you quoted is referring to your years of being on the Jelly forums, for the record
i'm sure it doesn't help your case that people know how thick-headed and unreasonable you are; were you just a random player they would likely be more lenient, but since you're a long-time regular and expected to know better you were probably not given any leniency


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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if you ever encountered resistance for being a dishonest fuck then you shouldn't be so confused as to why

?

that's the thing; i don't think you actually realize it when it happens
that explains why you're still denying this to the grave

some people can't help but lie; they can be caught red-handed shoplifting by a police officer and on video camera and still they lie about it
i'm beginning to think you just may be one of those people


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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but, then again, you're derfcow and i almost expect that from you

More maturity, your quite the face for jelly.

i'm speaking to you as a person, not a moderator
you can hold that against me if you'd like, but no one ever said i have to be courteous to you
especially not after you've cheated and lied about it in a server i've moderated on and been a part of for years


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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idk if you realize this, but you're a very thick-headed individual

How thick?

i don't know derfie; is there a way to measure thick-headedness?


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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i'm actually quite open-minded, which is the opposite of what you are

Right, your open minded, ask anyone in the world I doubt they will respond with IM pretty closed minded actually...

you can ask anyone that's observed you on the Jelly forums and knows what of you that i know; i'm sure you'll get a similar response

i spoke on Mumble to a former ren player last night and was going to mention you cheating and getting banned; i said "Remember fredcow?" he said "The annoying retarded guy?" i didn't have to say anything; he came up with that all on his own


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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do you understand? i don't think you do, and that's why i suggested that you might be mentally ill

right, continue face of jelly games. And you tried to make yourself to be a fair person.
You actually suggested I dont have children, I dont see what type of open minded fair logical person would ever attack a person in such a way. Especially over a video game.

it's just my observation, as un-biased as i can make it
i'm being completely honest with you
the way you're acting after having cheated in a video game is why i said what i said, if you're wondering
it has nothing to do with cheating in a video game, though i'm sure a correlation could be made somewhere


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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[color=skyblue]all i said is that it would make perfect sense to me if i found out you were mentally ill; it would explain much

what were the signs and symptoms aligned with direct quotes from myself that gave away a certain mental ailment? which ailment specifically?

i'm no psychiatrist derfie, and i'm not sure what mental ailment would most fit your description
i don't have to quote anything; look at what's happening with this entire situation
just put huge quote tags around it


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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are you saying that, because i say you're an idiot for saying idiotic things, that i'm a bad person? i'm merely being honest, or stating the obvious

Im saying that you calling me an idiot at all is your own opinion. The extent to which you go to call me an idiot just shows alot about your character.

perhaps my character has an issue with ignorant idiots who continue to spew idiocy even after being shown that they're wrong
in your case though, i'm accepting that you can't help it and that i should try to be nicer to you


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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you don't encourage people to question your statements or beliefs

Where did I not encourage such?

i don't recall you ever encouraging people to question you
interesting point, however, because you ignored most everything that didn't agree with your position
perhaps you think moderators should be more like yourself; that's how you end up with a dictatorship Big Ups


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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and also, when they do you don't even read or understand it; it goes in one ear and out the other

Not a surprising response from someone who thinks im a mentally ill idiot who shouldnt have children.

no, it's certainly not
you've done nothing to prove otherwise in all the time i've known of you either


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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that has never been my line of thinking; i hope you can back up such an accusation Shocked

of course it hasnt.

i detect a hint of sarcasm!
however, this is an accusation that you cannot back up
i hope you have the decency to retract your baseless statement; it's essentially a lie
i don't expect that of you though derfie Razz


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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i've had several people tell me that i'm an arrogant, cocky asshole that is unreasonable
in the end it always turned out to be the people i disliked for legitimate reasons; i'm sorry if the fact that i think you're an idiot shines through in my posts, but it's true

No you just go out of your way instead of making a legitimate point youd rather defame someones character. You have really proved this the more you continue to respond naturally.

perhaps you can show an example of this; i don't believe it actually happened Blush


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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here's basically what happens: in your mind you have a valid point
i read and give everything a fair chance, i really do
but nothing you say makes it past that, because it's usually just plain wrong or delusional horse shit

Why did you even tell me this? I dont care about your fake "fair chance"

you said it all right there
"Why did you even tell me this? I dont care"
you needn't say more; you've made it quite clear that you don't much care about anything that doesn't agree with you in the first place
since the Jelly mod staff doesn't agree with your claim of innocence you don't care about them (even though they're right)


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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all of the garbage you come up with on various issues gets filtered out, as it should

So you are admitting to having a previous bias to everything I say.

absolutely not; where is this baseless accusation coming from? you have a habit of spouting nonsensical garbage that cannot be supported in any manner
in the past i have agreed with you on various issues, though i doubt you remember

you can think all you want that i'm a closed-minded, biased individual
i know you will anyways, but i would like if you could prove such a thing
i'd like to say we both know you can't, but at this point i'm wondering what reality you actually exist in


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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i honestly don't care if people disagree with me about anything; they have every right to
but when they can never back it up in any sensible or reasonable way then i don't much value their opinion


Seems quite contrary to everything youv said so far.

not seeing it
please, do tell Tell Me


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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for example, your opinion could be that "stank rushes on city are not overpowered because GDI gets stanks too"
am i supposed to just agree with you because that's your opinion? no, i will not, and i may even call you an idiot for suggesting it

gdi cant get stanks too so I really dont get what your getting at here.

LOL
jesus christ dude, it was an example

not sure if trolling or just an idiot


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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[color=skyblue]really? i do a good job backing everything that i say up,

You claimed Im mentally ill, shouldnt have children and am a complete idiot, surely youll be able to make a decent evident argument to this since you back everything up so well.

i never claimed you are mentally ill; i said i wouldn't be the least bit surprised if you actually were
i said i think it would be for the greater good of mankind if you don't reproduce; that's my opinion based off of everything i know of you thus far
for all i know you could really be nothing like you portray yourself on the internet and be fooling me good!
from what i can tell you're an extremely ignorant, thick-headed individual; i shouldn't have to go back and gather evidence of situations where you did a good job of making yourself look this way
you should be able to use this very situation as a good example, rather than trying so hard to maintain your false innocence


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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something you have never done and likely will never do
is that my problem? no; what you do is your own business
however, don't expect anyone to give you any credibility

You may start to notice that its just you here. If I wasnt form banned I could go through many polls topics ect where others thought I was correct I provided evidence ect. Do you really think I NEVER in the history of my existence backed anything up?

of course not; where did i say such a thing?
there were some times where you tried to back something up, but your reasoning made no sense and was refuted by others' logic or reasoning
that didn't seem to matter to you though, because you likely dismissed it or filtered it out because it differed from your own opinion

if you really are mentally ill, i'm sorry for giving you such a hard time
i had the impression you were just an ignorant assclown on the other side of Lake Michigan


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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did you ever stop to think that, perhaps the way you are, is the reason people dislike you?

You mean your social group on jelly?

the person that i spoke to isn't even someone i know well; he's a former player and played in Ren-Archive
he posted occasionally and knows some people that i do actually know
this person, at random, had come to the same conclusion about you that i have

are you surprised?


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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it's not that you disagree, though you quite clearly seem to think so
i almost think you have a problem with *gasp* being wrong about things

The same can be said for you.

when i'm wrong about something i have no problem admitting to it
you're nothing like me; you cheated and lied about it for years to dozens, if not hundreds, of people
and that's about something as silly as using cheats in a computer game; you couldn't even be honest about that Laughing


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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you can say the same about me but in all honesty i have no problem admitting when i'm wrong and telling people about it

Of course youll say that now.

why wouldn't i? it's true Smile
just because it doesn't match the picture of me you painted in your head does not make it untrue


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

Thats fucked up. You let someone cheat as a joke, yet I havent even been caught cheating and Im banned. Its this hypocrisy that really shows your true colors.

the player did not cheat; he put R-G-H in the corner of the screenshot as a joke
no one realized it had been a faked screenshot
why would i allow anyone to cheat? that's just silly


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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the worst-case scenario is you'll evade and play again and still be terrible despite whatever cheats you choose to run

Im not so sure what my gameplay skill levels have to do with cheating. If you think people cheat because they are trying to make up for a lack of skill in a game then your looking at cheating completely wrong.
Assume your worst case scenario is in play btw. I dont run cheats.

i doubt that, but ok
and whether you run cheats now or not is beyond me; you were banned for having and using them at the time that you were banned
and now that you've admitted to using *cheat name removed*in communities that have neighbored Jelly you probably aren't very welcome


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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if you cause problems with in-game chat you'll likely get dealt with as would anyone else
Jelly Games doesn't discriminate

I know how to not be found.

by not playing because you're banned for cheating? Surprised


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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come see me when you don't have to lie about what you've done and can accept it for what it is

You mean come see me when you take my side and accept the cheats you werent using.

the coke was in the trunk; you can't rewrite history, no matter how many times you try


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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it took you this long to come clean about cheating in other servers years ago so i don't expect anything anytime soon

I came clean about the cheats to many people the moment I did it. Just because you werent one of them doesnt mean anything. You think your supposed to be involved in alot of things but frankly your really not. This is old news, I just publicly released the info for shits and gigs.

you likely would have been banned from Jelly a long time ago
not once did you do anything remotely suspicious that i can recall in all your time there, and i applaud you for that
what makes you think i'm supposed to be involved in anything? this is another pointed statement with no actual basis
i hope you can back it up in some way

because a handful of people knew about it does not mean that n00bstories or st0rm knew, which is what actually mattered

for the record, you were a serious dipshit on both of their forums when the bans came around
your little one-line apology in the OP is almost a slap to the face of the people that had to spend their time dealing with your immaturity


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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the most populated server in Renegade dislikes you for cheating on it, which is why you were banned from it

For life? Hm so your telling me anyone who is caught using any cheats on jelly is now banned for life?

are you just anyone? no, you're not
you were a longtime regular, and as such are expected to follow the rules more than just anyone
you even participated in inter-community wars (and maybe even a community war or two - i'd have to check to be sure)
you also openly cheated on two neighboring communities, and managed to get banned at least once for breaking rules on the Marathon server

had you admitted to it like a man you'd likely be unbanned in time, but like a child you chose to deny it exactly like you did at n00bstories and st0rm when you were banned on their servers
you were a real prick about that too


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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i'm not sure if you realize that using cheat files is considered cheating (aka bighead, etc.)and that is why you were banned

Which for the last time and I wont address this again, I was ok with because said files existed in my folder at the time and so I was ready to accept punishment and own up to having cheat sounding files in my folder. However first response to my ban topic was life ban. You can figure out the rest.

that's a half-admission, but not a full one
you're so very close!

the fact that you, a longtime regular and known player, decided to use cheats is in a way a betrayal
if the mod in question decided to give you a lifetime ban it wouldn't be unwarranted

were it my call though, it wouldn't be a lifetime ban
had you at least admitted to it in the first place


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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i care about Renegade in a fanatical way? tell me, when is the last time i played Renegade derfcow
i enjoy the game, and i would like it to continue for as long as it can
i fail to see how that makes me a fanatic

You seem to get quite worked up over it. Your still replying to my posts for some reason.

because someone on the internet was wrong!
i'm trying to set the record straight, but in your case the record is broken and i'm likely just wasting my time being reasonable and rational with you


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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again, you were banned for having cheat files in your game folder
you were using them as you played;

Your staff proved I had files in my folder, no one proved I was using them. This is also the last time Im addressing this because Its annoying. I didnt use any files, none were active and no one can prove I used anything actively because there inst the tineyest shred of proof for it. When someone shows me evidence of my actively using the cheats at the time of this ban or EVER in my history of playing at jelly then ill be as shocked as having the ability to fly.

oh dear
the fact that they were in there is proof that you were using them; they are active there
it's like having a map in the data folder; it's active and on without having to be turned on
this excuse is almost as bad as "Steam put R-G-H on my computer" or "MUDKIPS' cat did it"


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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you were cheating

nope

i'll give you a cookie if you tell the truth!


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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i don't understand why you're denying it; there's no denying what you had

Theres no proving what I had, what did I do in game that was fishy/showed I used cheats. All you have are names from a bot.

not all cheats are easy to detect
you also could have been using them for years and just sucked so badly that no one noticed anything out of the ordinary


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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the fact that you continued to lie about it then (and choose to lie about it now) is likely why you were forum banned

Glad to hear an explanation. Though it looks like non mods have more power than the mods there as lurker suggested it and then it happened.

Lurker is a former mod, and he's a good guy
however, i really doubt that Lurker forum-banned you or was the deciding factor in you being forum-banned


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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i think the world would be better off without people as thick-headed as yourself, and if you not having children could possibly contribute to this notion i think it could only be a good thing

You off your soapbox yet?

i'm unfamiliar with the expression, but if you understand then great - i don't have to keep explaining it


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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i asked why you think i'm a terrible administrator; are you suggesting that this is so, because i seem to dislike you as an individual and am not courteous and polite to you? Blush


Id have to say letting someone run *cheat name removed*and then withholding information seems proof enough right there. If youv done this who knows what else youv done but wont tell anyone about because it might fuck you in the ass?

do you have anything other than that, because you were mistaken when you thought i let a player cheat as a joke? the player didn't cheat; again, he edited a screenshot in Paint or Photoshop and put the tag in the corner
he was going to put shit on the radar too but i said that was probably unnecessary to be convincing
again, i had no idea it would fool so many people
a harmless joke turned into a huge ordeal, and i accepted the fault and moved on
i wouldn't do anything similar in the future because of how that turned out; my sense of humor is not always modlike


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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why you think certain moderators should be removed, namely ones that have had problems with you in the past (aka dave2916, who banned you for teamkilling and teamhampering based off the words of xxxozxxxx and the corresponding IRC logs proving it)

Mike needed to be removed as when he was a trial mod he kicked me for destroying a humvee mass he was busy th'ing with.
skeptical is new to the modship and kicked me for 2 weeks for supposedly giving tanks away.
scruffy just form banned me because a non moderator told him to.
You allowed someone to use *cheat name removed*post a ss, get them in a heat of trouble and didnt say a damn thing.
Of course I cant remember years of poor modship incidents specifically so it would be pointless for me to describe them.
I dont even know who dave29516 is...

dave2916 is skeptical
you have no proof whatsoever that Scruffy forum-banned you or his reasoning for it; all you know is that you were forum-banned
Mike kicked you for destroying a mass? why are you surprised that that happened?
the "banned for two weeks for giving tanks away" doesn't sound familiar to me; was that an error with the bot not letting you back in, or was that the incident where you were teamkilling and xxxozxxxx talked to skeptical about it?
i didn't allow a player to use R-G-H, and you misunderstood my post
i allowed a player to post a faked R-G-H screenshot, and it ended up being so convincing that he was banned for it
the mistake was mine, and i unbanned him and apologized to the moderator both in private and in public


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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you seem to have a real problem with people that have a problem with you, but you're looking at it the wrong way: what you should be considering is that, perhaps, there's a one in a million chance that the fault is actually *gasp* your own

I can only think of a handful of people that actually have a problem with me. Its the possession of power they have gained since I started at jelly that has gotten me where I am.

so it's because people that dislike you and are biased against you became mods that you are banned now, and not because you used cheats? ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooook there derfcow

can you show me one time where a player was banned simply because "the mods did not like them"?
if you try to cite your own case now then you're not only an idiot, you're also a liar


fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53

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something to think about


Thanks dr phil

i'm likely hoping for too much when i ask that you be honest instead of lying in this case
what's the worst that could happen? the mods would say No guess what we don't give a shit you're staying banned anyways
then you could ban evade or whatever made-up shit you said prior to this

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