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Re: "He's not in Clan Wars, therefore he's not better than me: a clan war player." [message #466269 is a reply to message #466252]

Tue, 17 April 2012 11:20

Ryu
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Hitman wrote on Tue, 17 April 2012 01:09

cant properly learn this game in a game with lots of people fucking around, uneven numbers of players, no tactics involved 95% of the time, barely any communication on the teams, and no overall teamplay other than the occasional stank rush (if that can be called teamplay)

Fair point.

I used to do clan wars in CS and he's got a point.

Everything counts. there was formations, choice of weapons, different routes to the maps, who is carrying the bomb and what style of play does the bomnb carrier play?

I never got good at CS:S playing public matches, I just got better at public matches. Once the numbers died down I used to be shit cos skilled players would be better with small numbers, but I started playing clan wars with this guy and I got better with small numbers. You noticed things you never used to, foot steps, how to tell how much damage you did to a player that got away, better aiming techniques, better map routes, memorizing camp spots, using flash/smoke/grenades more effeciently etc.

After I got good (id say mid-ranged player) I got much better at public matches cos once the numbers went down, I'd play as if I was playing a 5 v 5 match, were as the rest of the team would be running around like headless chickens revealing themselvs on radar and basically letting me pick them off 1 at a time.

Same for Renegade, I used to be a decent public player but in small clan wars or 1v1's I was god awful. 15 v 15 or 5 v 5, different numbers, different strats. You can't argue this, most games prove this formula, unless your playing call of dooty: modern borfare, auto aim does the job for you.

Presence is a curious thing, if you think you need to prove it... you probably never had it in the first place.

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		"He's not in Clan Wars, therefore he's not better than me: a clan war player." By: YesNoMayb on Mon, 16 April 2012 16:08
		Re: "He's not in Clan Wars, therefore he's not better than me: a clan war player." By: Hitman on Mon, 16 April 2012 16:16
		Re: "He's not in Clan Wars, therefore he's not better than me: a clan war player." By: YesNoMayb on Mon, 16 April 2012 16:48
		Re: "He's not in Clan Wars, therefore he's not better than me: a clan war player." By: Hitman on Mon, 16 April 2012 17:09
		Re: "He's not in Clan Wars, therefore he's not better than me: a clan war player." By: Ryu on Tue, 17 April 2012 11:20
		Re: "He's not in Clan Wars, therefore he's not better than me: a clan war player." By: liquidv2 on Mon, 16 April 2012 23:16
		Re: "He's not in Clan Wars, therefore he's not better than me: a clan war player." By: ehhh on Tue, 17 April 2012 00:08
		Re: "He's not in Clan Wars, therefore he's not better than me: a clan war player." By: Major-Payne on Tue, 17 April 2012 00:31
		Re: "He's not in Clan Wars, therefore he's not better than me: a clan war player." By: iRANian on Tue, 17 April 2012 04:16
		Re: "He's not in Clan Wars, therefore he's not better than me: a clan war player." By: Hitman on Tue, 17 April 2012 07:40
		Re: "He's not in Clan Wars, therefore he's not better than me: a clan war player." By: ehhh on Tue, 17 April 2012 09:38
		Re: "He's not in Clan Wars, therefore he's not better than me: a clan war player." By: T0RN on Tue, 17 April 2012 10:14
		Re: "He's not in Clan Wars, therefore he's not better than me: a clan war player." By: liquidv2 on Tue, 17 April 2012 12:32
		Re: "He's not in Clan Wars, therefore he's not better than me: a clan war player." By: Hitman on Tue, 17 April 2012 14:16
		Re: "He's not in Clan Wars, therefore he's not better than me: a clan war player." By: liquidv2 on Tue, 17 April 2012 12:45
		Re: "He's not in Clan Wars, therefore he's not better than me: a clan war player." By: T0RN on Tue, 17 April 2012 12:48
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		Re: "He's not in Clan Wars, therefore he's not better than me: a clan war player." By: Hitman on Tue, 17 April 2012 14:18
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		Re: "He's not in Clan Wars, therefore he's not better than me: a clan war player." By: Hitman on Tue, 17 April 2012 14:41
		Re: "He's not in Clan Wars, therefore he's not better than me: a clan war player." By: Hitman on Tue, 17 April 2012 14:44
		Re: "He's not in Clan Wars, therefore he's not better than me: a clan war player." By: T0RN on Tue, 17 April 2012 14:53
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		Re: "He's not in Clan Wars, therefore he's not better than me: a clan war player." By: Hitman on Tue, 17 April 2012 16:24
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		Re: "He's not in Clan Wars, therefore he's not better than me: a clan war player." By: Hitman on Thu, 19 April 2012 06:55
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		Re: "He's not in Clan Wars, therefore he's not better than me: a clan war player." By: ehhh on Thu, 19 April 2012 08:49
		Re: "He's not in Clan Wars, therefore he's not better than me: a clan war player." By: Major-Payne on Thu, 19 April 2012 10:35
		Re: "He's not in Clan Wars, therefore he's not better than me: a clan war player." By: YesNoMayb on Thu, 19 April 2012 14:25
		Re: "He's not in Clan Wars, therefore he's not better than me: a clan war player." By: Major-Payne on Thu, 19 April 2012 14:29
		Re: "He's not in Clan Wars, therefore he's not better than me: a clan war player." By: appshot on Sun, 22 April 2012 21:04
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		Re: "He's not in Clan Wars, therefore he's not better than me: a clan war player." By: liquidv2 on Thu, 26 April 2012 09:54
		Re: "He's not in Clan Wars, therefore he's not better than me: a clan war player." By: Major-Payne on Thu, 26 April 2012 10:31
		Re: "He's not in Clan Wars, therefore he's not better than me: a clan war player." By: iRANian on Wed, 25 April 2012 06:05
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		Re: "He's not in Clan Wars, therefore he's not better than me: a clan war player." By: Tiesto on Fri, 17 August 2012 12:44
		Re: "He's not in Clan Wars, therefore he's not better than me: a clan war player." By: ehhh on Fri, 17 August 2012 12:58
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		Re: "He's not in Clan Wars, therefore he's not better than me: a clan war player." By: Major-Payne on Sat, 08 September 2012 23:29
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		Re: "He's not in Clan Wars, therefore he's not better than me: a clan war player." By: BAGUETTE on Wed, 12 September 2012 19:45
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