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Re: Questions I would like to pose to athiests [message #463067 is a reply to message #463051] Tue, 28 February 2012 06:58 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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eatcow wrote on Tue, 28 February 2012 00:11

You missed the point. If there is a God, that explains the universe's existence. That is not being less intellectually honest. The origin of such a being is a different subject.

and you don't have the faintest idea how to explain it. you think you've answered the question, you've only aggravated it.

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The conscience is not intelligence or a moral. It is that little voice inside your head that nags at you when you do something wrong or tells you to do something that is right. This is beyond the scope of altruistic behavior.

no, it's not a "little voice", unless you're schizophrenic or something. "a little voice" is just a poetic way of describing the emotions that restrain us from doing bad things.

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Don't know about enough about evolution to dig into intelligence.

you certainly don't know enough about evolution, you said it was all "random chance".

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The point in bringing up Plato is not to say they were perfectly good or to follow their teaching or anything. It was the accuracy of their writings. You presented the idea of the Bible not being an accurate historical text, and I was showing you a very condensed reasoning why it is. I am not trying to say "everyone follow what the Bible says", just establishing historical accuracy.

historical accuracy?

people living to like 800 years old? the world being created in 6 days? a zombie apocalypse? a deliberate flood covering the entire planet?

historical accuracy?

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You ridicule the Bible yet fail to answer the Jewish and Roman sources outside of the Bible that also discuss Jesus' claim to being the Son of God...

Because you haven't given one yet. I keep asking you to. I've asked you like four times and you haven't answered it yet. Where did you get the extremely specific account of Jesus' death and the disposal of his body? Don't just give a name, answer the question.

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You nevered answered it. You only said it was stupid that Jesus could be the Son of God but failed to answer with logic as to why.

sigh... i think you need to read what the person you're talking to is saying. go back and have another crack at it

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I would argue Catholicism (based upon Christian history) but this is a different subject.

Interesting. Do you think Vatican II was right or wrong? Specifically the dumping of the Catholic Church's official teaching that all Jews are guilty of murder.
It reversed centuries of its own dogma right there, in the 60's. What do you think about that? Was it right or wrong to teach - for centuries - that all Jews are murderers? Was it right or wrong to stop teaching that?

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Hell is the depravity of all love. Every Christian will agree to that.

Funny, cos I keep hearing - from people who call themselves Christians - that hell is a place of fiery torture.

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Might is right is not at all what I am arguing.

no, you're arguing that power = goodness, which is very similar. even the bible doesn't agree with you on that point. satan has some powers beyond what humans can do, you wouldn't say he was a good guy, would you? when aaron gets into a magic showdown with the egyptian priests, they can do miracles too... they're still on the bad side of things.

and jesus isn't the only guy to rise from the dead in the bible. lazarus, the daughter of jairus, the zombie apocalypse in one of the gospels (very hard to find another source that agrees that happened); here, the power comes from someone else, doesn't it?

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Back to our subject of how the universe was created. I have presented two arguments the idea of a God creating the universe but you have neglected to show any logical fallacies in them and instead attack the teachings of Jesus and the Bible and sent out several logical fallacies, specifically red herrings.

a little more honesty, eatcow, please.


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