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Re: MUDKIPS [message #459372 is a reply to message #459364]

Sun, 13 November 2011 08:07

Starbuzz
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C'mon guys you had a great opportunity to build a strong bulletproof case against a powerful mod in a highly ranked position you allege was abusive towards you. And you blew it good.

You should have been patient, persevered silently collecting SS/logs from every incident you allege such abuse happened so you could sell your case when you had so much evidence collected to the public (cos as it stands, a few guys who have a problem with this mod are getting stared @ by the Rene public that has no idea what the hell is going on). Instead, you had your "Rene Spring" and now what? Your original grievances remain unresolved and your alleged claims unproven. This is a textbook example of horrible mismanagement.

Anyone who alleges that a certain mod is giving out bans for getting killed by better players is a very serious allegation. If something likewise were to happen to me, that would be a serious issue for me but I would take my own tried and tested advice (like I have done countless times building cases to demolish all doubt and win a verdict in my favour). I have seen none of that here regarding the mod known as Jarhead; no SS, no logs, no well-worded gigantic posts that uses such SS/log evidence.

Resorting to nasty PM's, flooding the server, ad hominem and generally throwing a one-liner here and there gets you nothing. That's all I have seen in this entire Jarhead business from those who made the allegations. Take a lesson from real life; can you barge into a court and start screaming? EVEN if you are right in your allegations you still have to calm yourself, get a grip, and come back in and present your case with some decorum that will make people want to listen to your case. If the public buys it, you automatically win no matter what the powers-that-be do.

As it stands now, nobody has a clue what you guys are talking about specifically since no evidence is being presented. I have seen abusive mods in the past for no reason and so I think you guys may have a case considering these serious allegations:

Dave2916 wrote on Sat, 12 November 2011 17:22

4. If jarhead doesnt want to get insulted he should be such a piece of shit. Threatening players who kill him too often, threatening fellow mods, banning people simply because he doesnt like them, muting them, kicking them. And when people complain about any of that he bans them too. If he expects to not get insulted when hes being a nazi like that he's even got less braincells than I thought.

YesNoMaybe wrote on Sun, 13 November 2011 04:46

And that is exactly why, I am so violent about jarhead, and now you. People like you completely fuck up renegade. You've both got this attitude of "LISTEN TO ME OR PAY!!!" and take insult to every little thing, and think everybody is out to get you, and you'll gladly get rid of innocent people to bet set your mind at ease and have your way. People like you are fucking dangerous to renegade because it's power-abusing fucks like you that drive people away from this game.

But till you have some evidence going, the problems will continue. I know it's against human nature to stay calm under any condition of perceived injustice but sometimes that's just what you gotta do. It works.

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