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Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 [message #445217 is a reply to message #445048]

Wed, 23 March 2011 17:08

StealthEye
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I have no idea why you would want to install and use both RR and TT, but it would be strange to support this because it involves changing a few dlls and other files depending on which one you want to run. There just seems no reason to implement switching between those.

Just to clarify: the reason why TT and RR are so incompatible is because they use the same method of hooking many functions. This approch allows for much larger changes in the Renegade code and is way more flexible than what, for example, BIATCH and scripts 3.4.4 do. The disadvantage is compatability: for example, RR might have cloned some functions related to netcode, and TT has cloned almost every netcode function. Now, if TT's netcode is partially combined with RR netcode, clearly there will be problems.

Bottom line is, there is no real way to use RR and TT at the same time. Installing them alongside is possible, but it would require some weird automatic dll renames and such things before running the game. If you really want it, you'd have to write a script for that, or install Renegade twice (possibly using mklink to use a single, shared data directory); at this point, we do not think it is worth the significant amount of work to implement an easier method.

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		Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: jonwil on Sun, 20 March 2011 03:26
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: Generalcamo on Sun, 20 March 2011 07:24
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: Caveman on Sun, 20 March 2011 08:03
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: GEORGE ZIMMER on Sun, 20 March 2011 11:42
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: kamuixmod on Sun, 20 March 2011 12:44
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: NACHO-ARG on Sun, 20 March 2011 15:19
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: Caveman on Sun, 20 March 2011 15:22
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: jonwil on Sun, 20 March 2011 16:56
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: HaTe on Sun, 20 March 2011 18:20
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: saberhawk on Sun, 20 March 2011 20:10
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: HaTe on Sun, 20 March 2011 20:46
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: EvilWhiteDragon on Mon, 21 March 2011 01:30
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: KobraOps on Mon, 21 March 2011 16:29
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: NACHO-ARG on Mon, 21 March 2011 02:04
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: EvilWhiteDragon on Mon, 21 March 2011 03:54
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: Generalcamo on Mon, 21 March 2011 04:53
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: NACHO-ARG on Mon, 21 March 2011 07:05
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: a000clown on Mon, 21 March 2011 07:15
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: HaTe on Mon, 21 March 2011 08:00
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: EvilWhiteDragon on Mon, 21 March 2011 12:15
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: grant89uk on Mon, 21 March 2011 14:18
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: Gen_Blacky on Mon, 21 March 2011 10:17
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: NACHO-ARG on Mon, 21 March 2011 16:00
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: grant89uk on Mon, 21 March 2011 18:01
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: EvilWhiteDragon on Tue, 22 March 2011 01:45
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: Caveman on Tue, 22 March 2011 02:42
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: EvilWhiteDragon on Tue, 22 March 2011 02:47
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: Yrr on Tue, 22 March 2011 15:44
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: Nightma12 on Mon, 21 March 2011 19:38
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: Spyder on Tue, 22 March 2011 01:05
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: Gohax on Mon, 21 March 2011 23:19
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: Spyder on Tue, 22 March 2011 16:05
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: halo2pac on Tue, 22 March 2011 21:40
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: EvilWhiteDragon on Wed, 23 March 2011 01:22
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: halo2pac on Thu, 24 March 2011 14:19
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: HaTe on Thu, 24 March 2011 15:05
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: Omar007 on Wed, 23 March 2011 00:44
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: kamuixmod on Wed, 23 March 2011 03:24
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: HaTe on Wed, 23 March 2011 13:33
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: lion on Wed, 23 March 2011 14:52
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: EvilWhiteDragon on Wed, 23 March 2011 15:43
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: HaTe on Wed, 23 March 2011 16:08
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: cAmpa on Wed, 23 March 2011 17:19
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: HaTe on Wed, 23 March 2011 17:26
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: cAmpa on Wed, 23 March 2011 17:58
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: evanscnce on Wed, 23 March 2011 19:36
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: EvilWhiteDragon on Thu, 24 March 2011 01:47
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: evanscnce on Thu, 24 March 2011 13:32
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: danpaul88 on Wed, 23 March 2011 17:06
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: StealthEye on Wed, 23 March 2011 17:08
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: Hitman on Wed, 23 March 2011 17:24
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: NACHO-ARG on Wed, 23 March 2011 19:08
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: Hypnos on Fri, 25 March 2011 15:28
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: jonwil on Fri, 25 March 2011 17:23
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: 0x90 on Sat, 26 March 2011 23:58
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: Hitman on Sun, 27 March 2011 07:09
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: Jamie or NuneGa on Sun, 27 March 2011 08:11
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: Jerad2142 on Sun, 27 March 2011 19:02
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: bunka on Sun, 27 March 2011 22:39
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: Jerad2142 on Mon, 28 March 2011 10:01
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: HaTe on Mon, 28 March 2011 14:39
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: Gen_Blacky on Mon, 28 March 2011 15:14
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: Jerad2142 on Mon, 28 March 2011 17:42
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: Generalcamo on Wed, 30 March 2011 04:40
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: cAmpa on Wed, 30 March 2011 05:51
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: Spyder on Wed, 30 March 2011 08:47
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: KobraOps on Wed, 30 March 2011 16:20
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: Catalyst on Sat, 30 April 2011 04:12
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: NACHO-ARG on Fri, 25 March 2011 21:48
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: a000clown on Wed, 30 March 2011 15:57
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: Spyder on Sun, 27 March 2011 01:12
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: grant89uk on Sun, 27 March 2011 08:14
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: kamuixmod on Sun, 27 March 2011 15:12
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: kamuixmod on Mon, 28 March 2011 13:03
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: NACHO-ARG on Mon, 28 March 2011 21:09
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: argathol3 on Thu, 31 March 2011 06:25
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: Spyder on Thu, 31 March 2011 07:47
		Re: Stuff that is incompatible with scripts 4.0 By: iRANian on Sat, 30 April 2011 07:59

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