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Dave Anderson wrote on Wed, 02 February 2011 23:30

The type of person you were talking about -
There are those who do things that are not acceptable, who truly believe that what they are doing is right. For example, the individuals who hijacked planes and kamakazi'd our World Trade Centers. While what they did is not right, by any means; these individuals probably honestly and truly believed in what they were doing. There are those who truly believe they speak with God, and are told to do things.

This is all correct apart from "what they did is not right by any means". Any civilised, moral person knows it's wrong. The law says it's wrong. But their religion says it's right.

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if there is a god and he minds that sort of thing, it's hard to tell, isn't it? if the bible really came from a god, isn't it a rather incompetent revelation?

The bible did not "come from 'a' God". It is a collection of historical documents and writings written by various individuals across the world during those time periods.

i've never been under the impression that any 'god' had anything to do with the compilation of the bible, but that's what we're incessantly told. if you want to say it was just written by men who - when they claimed to know very specific things about a particular God - were lying or crazy or just repeating rumours they'd heard, you might be on to something...

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couldn't he have done it so that it couldn't be "used as an excuse for actions that are wrong"?
...and so that it wouldn't result in thousands of different versions of christianity, at least some of whom despise each other and have persecuted each other when they had the power?

He could have done many things. I could paint my car Black, White, or Pink. I could make toast or waffles. There is some line people have to accept that they simply do not know the answers things - and on some level an explanation may be beyond the comprehension of the human mind; everything we speak of, discuss, revolves around some physical element, or mechanics that is explained by some other physical element or mechanics. There are some things we just cannot answer, because it is beyond the intelligence of the capacity of the mind.

you're trying to create a mystery where none exists. seems to me that either the prophets who claimed to have received "revelations" from this god were lying or crazy, or if it's true, then the god was incompetent. The dumbest person on this forum could have done a better job of it.

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I know there is a God, but this is something that cannot be explained to someone. You can only know God by seeking him out yourself, and finding the truth. Whether you do or not, is up to you and your "belief in God" or "knowledge thereof" is only explanable by yourself, through your own personal experiences.

I remember you saying this before; you went on to say that "the entire book of Exodus is scientifically proven". I hope you don't still think that?

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Unfortunately you may never know God, yet alone even believe in him. Ultimately, he still loves you whether you acknowledge his existence or not.

Like a stalker?

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I also wouldn't think anything less of you just because you do not know or believe in the Lord. It is a relationship that cannot be forced upon any one person, and shouldn't either.

Do you think hell is a real thing?


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